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POSTVILLE, Iowa (CNN) -- About a dozen Somali Muslims stand outside their makeshift mosque on Lawler Street, its sheet-draped windows emblazoned with the words "Sunday Mattress." Women are covered head to toe in traditional Muslim robes.

Across the street, a couple of Latino immigrants stroll the sidewalk in front of the town's long-standing Mexican restaurant. Just down the road, scores of ultra-Orthodox Jews walk down the street to the local synagogue. It's not uncommon to see people from Russia, Ukraine and the tropical island nation of Palau here as well.

Welcome to ground zero of the nation's immigration debate -- the tiny town of Postville, Iowa, a rural community of 2,400 tucked into the northeast corner of a state that's 94 percent white.

It's a town that's been turned "topsy turvy," Mayor Bob Penrod says, since hundreds of heavily armed federal immigration agents swooped in a few months ago and raided its main employer, Agriprocessors, the nation's largest kosher meatpacking plant. Watch "a military raid on this town" »

"It makes a person feel kind of angry," Penrod says. "It's been nothing but a freaky nightmare since May."

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement says it is "confident that our actions at Agriprocessors were appropriate for this investigation."

On May 12, nearly 400 illegal immigrants, most of them from Guatemala and Mexico, were taken from the plant, shackled and sent for processing at the National Cattle Congress, a complex where dairy shows and other events are held in nearby Waterloo.

"ICE did not create the illegal alien problem at Agriprocessors. While we understand that our actions have an impact on communities, the responsibility for any disruption lies squarely with the law violators, not with the agency responsible for carrying out the law," ICE spokesman Tim Counts said in a written statement. See photos of ground zero of America's immigration battle »

It was the largest workforce raid in U.S. history at the time -- the start of a series of large raids across the country.

Helicopters buzzed the town, an airplane circled it and agents canvassed the area.

Another 300 undocumented workers who weren't at the plant at the time of the raid soon split town with their spouses and children, officials say. In essence, the town lost nearly a third of its residents in a matter of days.

"When you have a raid like that, it's just beyond your recognition," Penrod says. "It was nothing like you ever dream of. Believe me."

Five months later, tensions are high. Crime is up. Businesses are hurting. The nation's kosher supply has taken a big hit because the plant is only functioning at partial capacity. The plant is owned by Abraham Aaron Rubashkin, a powerful member of the Hasidic Jewish community.

There's a seething anger toward Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

"To me, they took a problem that needed a 22-caliber bullet and they dropped a nuclear bomb on us," says Aaron Goldsmith, a Hasidic Jew and former Postville city councilman. "They made a poster child out of Postville." See where Postville is located »

Goldsmith says he believes immigration policy should be dealt with. But if federal officials wanted to correct the immigration situation in Postville, he says, they should've done it step-by-step, not with brute force.

"They turned people into cattle," he says. "If they wanted to stop this problem, if they wanted to scare everybody away, all they had to do is go into Los Angeles [California] and they could've taken out 1 million people in a day. But they don't because there's too much political clout.

"So they go to a place where there's no political backbone. They go to a place where the government's willing to throw us to the dogs."

Down a picturesque tree-lined street off Lawler Street sits St. Bridget's Catholic Church whose pastor, Father Lloyd Paul Ouderkirk, is both soft-spoken and outspoken. It is his church that became a refuge for the town's immigrants the day of the raid and the weeks afterward.

"They had attacked this town with a military-style raid -- brought in 900 immigration police to arrest 389 people. I mean, what is that other than a military raid on this town?" he says.

Ouderkirk scans his church now, the sun beaming through stained-glass windows. "Can you just imagine all these pews here full of people, sleeping 300-400 people a night?"

Not too far from his church, Agriprocessors sits at the edge of town along a railroad track on about 60 acres of land. A giant menorah juts into the sky at the main entrance. A sign on the building reads, "Agriprocessors a great place to work!"

CNN was denied entry, and representatives of the meatpacking plant have declined to respond to subsequent follow-up phone calls. In a statement immediately after the raid, Agriprocessors said it "cooperated with the government in the enforcement action. We intend to continue to cooperate with the government in its investigation."

It is behind the plant's gates that the federal and state governments contend crimes occurred -- with the company using illegal immigrants as its primary workers.

"It appears, based on 2007 fourth-quarter payroll reports, that approximately 76 percent of the 968 employees of Agriprocessors were using false or fraudulent Social Security numbers in connection with their employment," ICE alleges in its affidavit.

Separately, the state has filed more than 9,000 misdemeanor charges against the owners and managers at Agriprocessors -- including the owner Rubashkin -- accusing them of child labor law violations.

The criminal complaint, filed by the office of Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller, says the violations involved 32 youths under the age of 18, including seven under the age of 16.

ICE has no apologies for cracking down.

"Local disruption is easy to see and report on. What is less obvious is the devastation caused by the hundreds of illegal aliens who stole the identities of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents," ICE's Counts said.

"It can take months or years for victims to recover from even the most benign case of identity theft. Even less obvious, but just as damaging, is the corrupting effect on the nation's legal identification systems."

In the wake of the raid, Agriprocessors has named a new CEO, New York attorney Bernard Feldman. It has also retained Jim Martin, a former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri, to help with the company's compliance with immigration and employment law.

Postville residents who spoke to CNN say those at Agriprocessors need to be punished if the allegations they face are true. But residents also say the debate over illegal immigration is far more complex than the rhetoric often heard over AM radio or cable TV.

They say the Latino residents were productive members of the community who paid taxes, even if under false pretenses, and had been here for years, and that Agriprocessors is key to the survival of the town and region.

Immigration officials, residents say, should've acted a decade ago -- long before the immigrants' roots were settled.

"If I had to say anything to anybody about the whole deal: Don't let it go so long that it becomes a huge problem," says Brian Gravel, the principal of Postville High School.

But he adds, "Picking on a town of 2,500 people in northeast Iowa is not my idea of a naturalization or immigration policy."

"You can corner this one plant with federal agents and deport people. That's one way to do it, but that's a good way to ruin towns -- ruin a small northeast Iowa place."

Since that day in May, the Latino population has dwindled.

The vice president of Palau has journeyed thousands of miles to Postville and offered about 160 of his countrymen for the open jobs at Agriprocessors. Residents of the island nation can legally live and work indefinitely in the United States under a special arrangement with the U.S. government.

Some from the Pacific island, where the average temperature year-round is 82 degrees, have already begun arriving. The rest will be coming soon, just in time for the frigid Iowa winter where temperatures dip below zero.

Another 125 Somali Muslims, legally classified as refugees, have already moved in. Many have come via the Minneapolis area, as well as Illinois and Texas.

"All of the Somalis came here to work at the plant," says Abdi Hasan, who came to the United States from Somalia five months ago. "I came to look for a job here."

He says they've been welcomed by the locals -- "no problems, no mistreatment, no nothing."

Hasan gets paid $10 an hour at the "kill house" at Agriprocessors, he says. His only complaint: Not being allowed to say Muslim prayers while at work.

"They don't allow it," he says. "That's a problem at times."

Mayor Penrod stands on the sidewalk outside his office. He looks out over Lawler Street, where big rigs rumble and cars freely move about.

"What do I love about my city? I love the progress we've made," he says.

But now, he says, "Everything is tension based."

"You can just sense the friction," he says. "I hope I'm wrong

several years ago, i had a job offer in decorah iowa...travelled there and viewed the area etc...on my way home. i drove, i came into this town for lunch/.//i was astonished ..it had russian stories..spanish shopping and supplies..and muslims ....it was in the middle of nowhere..also, allot of jewish business....i ate at the mexican grocery store/resturant..and had a excellent chow.....

sorry, it should be postville, iowa not pottsville

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some competitor has a beef with them.. it happened in eastern carolina among the different processor plants.. they'd call ICE on each other.. the only untouchable one was Cargill

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Lawler street? LAWL

"If they wanted to stop this problem, if they wanted to scare everybody away, all they had to do is go into Los Angeles [California] and they could've taken out 1 million people in a day. But they don't because there's too much political clout.

"So they go to a place where there's no political backbone. They go to a place where the government's willing to throw us to the dogs."

Good point.

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I didn't read it, it's too long. :whistle:

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02/05/07 - I-130 sent to NSC

05/03/07 - NOA2

05/10/07 - NVC receives petition, case # assigned

08/08/07 - Case Complete

09/27/07 - Interview, visa granted

10/02/07 - POE

11/16/07 - Received green card and Welcome to America letter in the mail

Removing Conditions

07/06/09 - I-751 sent to CSC

08/14/09 - Biometrics

09/27/09 - Approved

10/01/09 - Received 10 year green card

U.S. Citizenship

03/30/11 - N-400 sent via Priority Mail w/ delivery confirmation

05/12/11 - Biometrics

07/20/11 - Interview - passed

07/20/11 - Oath ceremony - same day as interview

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read it sister

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All of the Somalis came here to work at the plant," says Abdi Hasan, who came to the United States from Somalia five months ago. "I came to look for a job here."

He says they've been welcomed by the locals -- "no problems, no mistreatment, no nothing."

The man was obviously blind or lying because it's common knowledge here in OT that vast majority of rednecks in small-town Iowa hate Muslims, especially the ones from Africa.

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I can't, I'm too busy trying to get the cliffs notes. :lol:

Diana

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02/05/07 - I-130 sent to NSC

05/03/07 - NOA2

05/10/07 - NVC receives petition, case # assigned

08/08/07 - Case Complete

09/27/07 - Interview, visa granted

10/02/07 - POE

11/16/07 - Received green card and Welcome to America letter in the mail

Removing Conditions

07/06/09 - I-751 sent to CSC

08/14/09 - Biometrics

09/27/09 - Approved

10/01/09 - Received 10 year green card

U.S. Citizenship

03/30/11 - N-400 sent via Priority Mail w/ delivery confirmation

05/12/11 - Biometrics

07/20/11 - Interview - passed

07/20/11 - Oath ceremony - same day as interview

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sister............i hunt up the cliff notes for you

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

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Five months later, tensions are high. Crime is up. Businesses are hurting. The nation's kosher supply has taken a big hit because the plant is only functioning at partial capacity. The plant is owned by Abraham Aaron Rubashkin, a powerful member of the Hasidic Jewish community.

Where are the Chicken Littles of immigration now? This country needs a healthy flow of immigrants to keep us strong. E pluribus unum.

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Five months later, tensions are high. Crime is up. Businesses are hurting. The nation's kosher supply has taken a big hit because the plant is only functioning at partial capacity. The plant is owned by Abraham Aaron Rubashkin, a powerful member of the Hasidic Jewish community.

Where are the Chicken Littles of immigration now? This country needs a healthy flow of immigrants to keep us strong. E pluribus unum.

And 2 days from now you will be posting about unemployment and how "Main Sreet" is hurting. Some people just can't connect dots.

I can remember when these were good union jobs. As long as there is an open border and a endless stream of illegal aliens to bring it down to the lowest common denominator...they never will be again.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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Five months later, tensions are high. Crime is up. Businesses are hurting. The nation's kosher supply has taken a big hit because the plant is only functioning at partial capacity. The plant is owned by Abraham Aaron Rubashkin, a powerful member of the Hasidic Jewish community.

Where are the Chicken Littles of immigration now? This country needs a healthy flow of immigrants to keep us strong. E pluribus unum.

And 2 days from now you will be posting about unemployment and how "Main Sreet" is hurting. Some people just can't connect dots.

I can remember when these were good union jobs. As long as there is an open border and a endless stream of illegal aliens to bring it down to the lowest common denominator...they never will be again.

It's way more complicated than believing that if we simply remove all illegal aliens, our troubles will be over. Hopefully even you can see that.

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we have about ten towns like this in Iowa...the old white people dying off and the young white have gotten education and moved out. Our town is old people and the factories have closed, have a windmill factory and biodiesal starting. Marshalltown 30 miles north has two meat packing and 50,00 peoples now are mostly spanish and sudanese and bosnian. the furnace factory lenox is closing down. Iowa has turned v intereisting and diverse in past 10 yrs.. im not sure the 94% white is correct any more.. Illegals arent counted. we sure need them in Iowa. they handle the scut work end of farming now. all the way to the factory level.most arfe nice fmily peoples. I helped start a womans clinic for immigrants. little office.. 2 days a week went from 10 pts one week to 60 the next within a month..and now the clinic has expanded 4 times. this was 8 yrs ago..now i s... govt grants and non profit hospitl backing. 24 hr maternity stay in the hospital... yet our death rates among newborns are worse than cuba..maybe its poor prenatal care of illegals. (gest diabetes etc) or our health care system for our non immigrant middle class and or poor sucks.. something to look into..havent had time..

august 2004 I-129 filed (neb)

DEC 2004 Approved

interview: SEOUL

MArch 21st , 2005AR for special security clearance,washington

May 18th tranfer case from Seoul to Islammabad

June 21st security clearance done

June 28th online at the embassy in Islamabad

waiting for paper transfer and the good word

OCTOBER 14TH 2005 Interview Number 2: ISLAMABAD, PK

AR number 2 sent to DOS per Islamabad (2 cable request)

Nov 22 okd updated financial and etc proof accepted / embassy waiting for security cables

dec 20th one cable back waiting on 2nd

Jan 17th.. good word recieved. SECURITY CHECKS ALL CLEAR!!! DOS says embassy to contact him within two weeks!!!!!!

FEBRUARY 10th, 2006 VISA RECIEVED!!! They called him In via phone, stamped his passort and sent him on his way!!!

FEB 28th WELCOME HOME>>>POE CHICAGO did not even look at xray, few questions. one hour wait at Poe

march 10th marriage (nikkah at the islamic center)

aug 2006 AOS interview, cond 2 yr GC arrived september

June 2008 applied for removal of conditions on permant residency aka awaiting for 10 yr greencard

Dec 2008 10yr green card approved, no interview.

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One thing nice about small town and cities ie Des Moines..there is no cultural divisions.. Our mosque is very very varied.. from rich to poor. from indonesia to arabia.. all together. Muslims work or jewish and jewish for muslim and christian and all talk and visit.. I see the divisions on countries and all in the cities ie neighbor hoods of Chicago. even eye brow raised @ pakistani mosque in Chicago when he brings me through the door. and the city people are more advanced??? Jah Right..

august 2004 I-129 filed (neb)

DEC 2004 Approved

interview: SEOUL

MArch 21st , 2005AR for special security clearance,washington

May 18th tranfer case from Seoul to Islammabad

June 21st security clearance done

June 28th online at the embassy in Islamabad

waiting for paper transfer and the good word

OCTOBER 14TH 2005 Interview Number 2: ISLAMABAD, PK

AR number 2 sent to DOS per Islamabad (2 cable request)

Nov 22 okd updated financial and etc proof accepted / embassy waiting for security cables

dec 20th one cable back waiting on 2nd

Jan 17th.. good word recieved. SECURITY CHECKS ALL CLEAR!!! DOS says embassy to contact him within two weeks!!!!!!

FEBRUARY 10th, 2006 VISA RECIEVED!!! They called him In via phone, stamped his passort and sent him on his way!!!

FEB 28th WELCOME HOME>>>POE CHICAGO did not even look at xray, few questions. one hour wait at Poe

march 10th marriage (nikkah at the islamic center)

aug 2006 AOS interview, cond 2 yr GC arrived september

June 2008 applied for removal of conditions on permant residency aka awaiting for 10 yr greencard

Dec 2008 10yr green card approved, no interview.

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spot on to my favorite iowan,,,the noble sister cindi..i missed you sister..insha'allah...dean

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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we have about ten towns like this in Iowa...the old white people dying off and the young white have gotten education and moved out. Our town is old people and the factories have closed, have a windmill factory and biodiesal starting. Marshalltown 30 miles north has two meat packing and 50,00 peoples now are mostly spanish and sudanese and bosnian. the furnace factory lenox is closing down. Iowa has turned v intereisting and diverse in past 10 yrs.. im not sure the 94% white is correct any more.. Illegals arent counted. we sure need them in Iowa. they handle the scut work end of farming now. all the way to the factory level.most arfe nice fmily peoples. I helped start a womans clinic for immigrants. little office.. 2 days a week went from 10 pts one week to 60 the next within a month..and now the clinic has expanded 4 times. this was 8 yrs ago..now i s... govt grants and non profit hospitl backing. 24 hr maternity stay in the hospital... yet our death rates among newborns are worse than cuba..maybe its poor prenatal care of illegals. (gest diabetes etc) or our health care system for our non immigrant middle class and or poor sucks.. something to look into..havent had time..

Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing. :yes:

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