YESTERDAY MY HONEY SHOULD ARRIVE

[almaty 19]

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FURTHERMORE, I AM A DISABLE VET AND A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE...FRAUD IS SOMETHING I WOULD NEVER DO TO JEOPORDIZE MY CAREER OR BE DISLOYALED TO MY COUNTRY.

goldenheart,

I would never have considered you of acting fraudulently. I was worried FOR you ( based on the earlier info) that perhaps your fiance had originally entered the relationship for non -genuine reasons, and somewhere changed his mind, as the circumstances seemed kind of self-sabotaging. Had this been the case, I was angry FOR you!

Your last post made things clearer. Again I hope you can get help and sort out this devastating mess.

Lisaf,

I appreciate you caring about my well-being and being vigilant about my fiance. My fiance is a great iman and I appreciate him and love him more today then I did yesterday. How many men you know that would sit in a rotten cell for 27 hours and still wants to marry me. Unfortunately, he's not thrill about returning back to the USA, but he still loves me and wants to be with me. I met my honey 2 years ago and he calls me everyday and sometimes I call him when I run out of patients Our relationship is 2years young and going strong each day. It has never crossed my mind that he would enter the relationship fraudulently. He said that he had beg them to help him in translating the papers, so he could get all of this over with and go through. He even asked them to call me so I could help. They told him that his english is good and he did not need a translator.

i agree sister goldenheart..you have a fine and respectful man ..insha'állah...peace and goodness my sister...dean

[morocco4ever 63]

Oh dear goldenheart...I am so sorry for this. I find it a shame that so many people feel so free to jump down your throat and throw fraud in your face before they find out all of the facts. I don't know much about your case except for bits and pieces, but I did know enough to know that your marriage isn't a fraud.

I read this late last night and I have been waiting to get off work to do a little research on this. I have never seen this before, but I do not believe in signing anything that you don't understand. Its really sad, it is our right as U.S. citizens to understand forms before signing, and to be allowed a translator if we don't, but apparently that doesn't apply to immigrants. My husband speaks English pretty good, but faced with a standard US form I am afraid that he would be hesitant as well.

First I wanted to see for sure who the POE's are under. I assumed it is the DHS, but I wasn't positive. I have a couple of links for you to look at:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/id_visa/..._to_the_u_s.xml

This pretty much tells you the process of entering the US for both citizen and immigrants. I did see a note for refusal to enter under 212. There is a link for that, but yet it didn't work.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/ineligib...ities_1364.html

Maybe you could look through this link to see if there is something that stands out for the reason he wasn't admitted into the US. Someone had mentioned earlier about a TB test....possible.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/foia/overview.htm

You might want to submit what is called a FOIA. This is a very time consumming process, and hopefully you will fix this situation before you need this, but I think it is essential to find out what happened.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/customer..._complaints.xml

Lastly, this is a link for complaints about the CBP.

I hope you are going to contact your senator and/or congressman, but don't stop there.

Now I understand you are having some anxiety problems, I am sorry to hear that as well. You need to pull it together quickly and get moving on this. Don't let anyone get in your way for success.

Good luck and please keep us informed.

Big hugs to ya!

[iceyspots 0]

Find a good immigration attorney that can help.

I thought at many POEs that certified translators are available ... maybe even a German translator could have helped

This is very unjust and I knew Atlanta was a notorious POE but I didnt think that cruel... I wonder what makes the difference

Thats why I told Meriem to fly Hachemi through Detroit or JFK it may be more expensive but the pain it will stop is well worth it.

I wonder when did CBP officers become language experts and decide what someone can or cannot read

الله معك مع اسلامه

[meauxna 15]

Thats why I told Meriem to fly Hachemi through Detroit or JFK it may be more expensive but the pain it will stop is well worth it.

I wonder when did CBP officers become language experts and decide what someone can or cannot read

الله معك مع اسلامه

FWIW, Detroit has a worse reputation than Atlanta, which is saying something. You couldn't pay me enough to enter there, and I'm a USC.

I don't know how fair it is to slag the CPB until we know what actually happened though.

/.02

[almaty 19]

go through chicago poe..

[KarenCee 3]

I am so sorry Goldenheart....I cannot imagine what you're both going through. My fiancé came through Boston and it was soooo easy. But...he is Canadian. Maybe Boston or Chicago is a better POE for Muslims. I don't like Atlanta...and whenever we fly out that's where we have to start our journeys. I've been treated harshly too in security, and I'm the USC as well as a resident of the state. Not sure what's up with that either. My fiancé and I hope things get settled for you soon.

[rejane 1]

So sorry to hear that, sending hugs your way

[Fischkoepfin 1]

goldenheart, sorry to hear about this. I hope you can somehow sort this out.

I had to sign and fingerprint a data sheet when entering at POE (or so I think because I didn't really see it), and I was too fed up with my trip and the whole visa process to ask questions.

I do also think that it is wrong to deny your fiance a translator and I would be surprised if that was legal. Since you say that he was deported and banned I wonder if he was put in front of an immigration court. In addition to a lawyer and your congresspeople, consider contacting ACLU.

Finally, I've entered through many POE's and Atlanta is about the worst. Detroit is not much better but they harrass everyone regardless of nationality/race. Chicago is the most hassle-free I've been through even though I've seen people being taken in to secondary inspection there as well. Best of luck to you!!

[MHandMB 0]

I'm sorry to hear about everything you're going through, Goldenheart. This process is gut-wrenching as it is, but to get so close only to be denied at the point of entry is downright cruel. I hope you figure out a way to get your fiance here.

My fiance came through JFK and had no problems whatsoever. He's a muslim from Algeria. He said there were a lot of people from Morocco on his flight and there didn't seem to be too many problems at the POE. He was in and out in a jiffy.

I agree with what everyone is saying about Atlanta. I have heard horror story after horror story. I know that doesn't help you right now, but please know that you're not alone, others have gone through it, too, and you'll find some way to be with your love.

Good luck and stay strong!

[chiquita 0]

Had she not gone back to the embassy to have the petition revalidated that's what would have happened. The petition was approved Nov 2001 and the Visa wasn't issued until April 2002. The Manila embassy said they gave everyone another 4 months from the time they received the petition packet, but didn't officially revalidate the petition. So I knew the petition had to have been expired.

I don't understand... do you mean the visa itself expired or the petition you filed through USCIS expired?

From Nov 01 to April 02 is just 5 months so the petition was till valid.

The petition should be good for one year. The visa is good for 4 months (or whatever the CO writes), some can get it valid longer than the standard 4 months).

chi

[chiquita 0]

Well perhaps those attempting to analyze the situation should look carefully at the timeline? As the USCIS and DOS is paid to do?

(If you disagree with me on the 'appearance' of the whole thing, then fine, but something(s) just don't make any sense here).

July 31, 2004- USCIS received my petition

April 12, 2005 - Petition and Waiver to meeting face to face are denied

(This should have never happened, much less applied for IMO).

THE NEW JOURNEY HAS BEGUN

April 19-26, 2005- Visit in Germany (first time ever)

..... (snip).....

Aug 29, 2005- DS230 and another form was returned to my fiance for completion

Sep 1, 2005- My fiance returned everything

October 28,2005 -Administrative Review

(So what was the reason for Administrative Review? Any info in it?)

November 7-15, 2005- Vacation in Germany

December 21, 2005- Contact my Senator again.

JAN 2006- Decided to send an email to the Consulate and received a reply that our application is still pending.

FEB 27, 2006- I wrote another letter to the Senator again

MAR, 2006- I called the Consulate and received information that my fiance had a scheduled interview for Feb 20, 2006 and failed to show-up

Your kidding me right? Failed to show up?

MARCH 18-30 - MY THIRD VISIT TO GERMANY

You're certainly paying YOUR dues in this effort...

MARCH 20, 2006- Interview

MARCH 29, 2006- we turned in everything for them to process the visa, they promise it will take 10 days

VISA IN HAND!!!!!!!!!

Then shonjaved chimes in:

let me say this Atlanta is the worst POE for Muslim immigrants.

Ok.... So this fellow is a muslim. (Really? I can't see where it was previously indicated anywhere).

He refused to sign a biographical information form at the poe, and was subsequently denied entry.... needed a translator???

Hunh?

I would have to say on it's face, it's obvious that it's not immigration law compliance that's the issue, but whether the person intends to comply with immigration law, or comply with the laws of the usa.

First by applying for the no meet face to face thing... Good Gawd, that alone takes an act of congress to pull off - you obviously solved the problem by travelling to meet him instead - SEVEN DAYS after the denial? It's not like it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that the waiver was bogus in the first place since you went to meet him so quickly thereafter.

Second was that he allegedly didn't show up for a scheduled interview in his home country. After you had petitioned him... (The only real reason I could imagine someone missing this interview is a death in the family or the death of the beneficiary! - but at least they would reschedule the thing!)

Third he refused to sign a biographic information form at the port of entry. And he needed an interpreter.

Who did what wrong here?

Hell I'm no big fan of immigration legislation, but this pattern of behaviour is literally spitting in the face of the folks that are employed to enforce it.

All I can see are red flags.

Why did this behaviour take place to begin with? Why on earth did you attempt to petition to avoid meeting face to face?

Go ahead burn me to the ground for my comments, but something just stinks here.

listion IDIOT!@ zz

1st.. her time line is not off..

2nd POE is very harsh on muslims in ATL. 2 hour interrogation on all muslims is not acceptable!

along with a call from POE to question the USC is not acceptable either!

3rd.. there are NO red flags when a VISA is issued!

4th .. Admin review can happen to anyone! including you! - its security checks

5th .. just because the interview was missed did not mean her husband did anything wrong.

they never got the orginal letter. she dont have to get in details a

6th.. get a life you certainly need one.

goshhhhhhhhhhhhh

[meauxna 15]

I-129f petitions are valid for 4 months from approval. K-1 visas are valid for six months from their date of issue.

[chiquita 0]

but because he signed them, he inadvertently admitted guilt, and we would have to file a waiver or wait out the 5 year ban. We chose to wait it out because we heard/thought the waivers were impossible to get (which also wasn't true - they're approved every day in Juarez).

Can I ask what he admitted guilty yo by signing the paper? I mean what was his crime they acused him of?

chi

[Veiled Princess 1]

I think some people here are confused or making assumptions or maybe I'm the one confused. I believe I read earlier that it was not a biographic data form that he refused to sign but was the form saying they were deporting him that he refused to sign. I can understand why he would refuse to sign that if he did not understand WHY he was being deported and had done nothing wrong to be deported.

[chiquita 0]

My heart goes out to both of you. I think he was right not to sign the papers. If he signed them, he would be admitting to whatever they had documented on those papers.

My husband was detained and interrogated for 6 hours, and they told him if he'd just sign the papers they'd let him go home and I could file papers for him and he'd be able to come back in right away (blatent lie) He was so desperate and scared by that time to get out of there that he did sign the papers even though what the papers said wasn't true (and he couldn't understand them because they were in ENglish and at that time he only spoke Spanish). They gave him a 5 year ban too. Multiple lawyers told us it would have been better for him to not have signed the papers even though he would have been deported, as he wouldn't have admitted anything which could have given us a legal leg to stand on, but because he signed them, he inadvertently admitted guilt, and we would have to file a waiver or wait out the 5 year ban. We chose to wait it out because we heard/thought the waivers were impossible to get (which also wasn't true - they're approved every day in Juarez).

I don't have much advice, except I hope that it's some hope/consolation to you that your fiance probably did the right thing by not signing their papers.

Have you ever found out what they thought he was guilty of?