YESTERDAY MY HONEY SHOULD ARRIVE

[kitkat1 5]

I am now going to throw up on your behalf.

I'm extremely sorry for what you are going through and pray it gets straightened out immediately.

I think the smartest thing you can do right now is get on the phone with your Senator's office and a very well qualified immigration attorney.

Best of luck.

[I'm Gone 60]

Talk to a lawyer NOW... I've never heard of anyone being actually denied entry and deported when they had a valid visa in their passport... this sounds terrible.

This sounds like something different, but back in March/April of 2002 the INS at the Detroit Airport were turning away people with valid visas because the petition had expired and the embassy hadn't officially revalidated it.

That is crazy.....damm. To my knowledge the approved petition gets you the visa........once visa is in hand the petition has completed its purpose.

Same thing I said, but they didn't see it that way. Wife (then fiancé) had to go back to the embassy to get them to revalidate the petition. First time they laughed at her. I then contacted Senator's Immigration Liasion and they were in a more receptive mood when she went back. This was all done 4 days before she was to leave to come here after I read a post on the Visa-Marriage Newsgroup that this happened to someone. I called INS at the Detroit Airport and they said yes that's the word they were given to do things. Now how long it lasted or who made them stop beats me.

I'm sorry I can't help you, but I'm sure someone who can will be along. I hope you're able to get things resolved very soon.

Thanks Jenn,

It would help, if I only knew why they denied his entry.

I would contact Senator or congressman's immigration liaison and/or an immigration lawyer.

[kitkat1 5]

mdyoung - I'm confused. Do you mean your fiancee (at the time) received her visa but the petition in the secret envelope that you turn over at the POE was expired and they wouldn't let her in?

[babybunny 2]

Talk to a lawyer NOW... I've never heard of anyone being actually denied entry and deported when they had a valid visa in their passport... this sounds terrible.

This sounds like something different, but back in March/April of 2002 the INS at the Detroit Airport were turning away people with valid visas because the petition had expired and the embassy hadn't officially revalidated it.

That is crazy.....damm. To my knowledge the approved petition gets you the visa........once visa is in hand the petition has completed its purpose.

Same thing I said, but they didn't see it that way. Wife (then fiancé) had to go back to the embassy to get them to revalidate the petition. First time they laughed at her. I then contacted Senator's Immigration Liasion and they were in a more receptive mood when she went back. This was all done 4 days before she was to leave to come here after I read a post on the Visa-Marriage Newsgroup that this happened to someone. I called INS at the Detroit Airport and they said yes that's the word they were given to do things. Now how long it lasted or who made them stop beats me.

I'm sorry I can't help you, but I'm sure someone who can will be along. I hope you're able to get things resolved very soon.

Thanks Jenn,

It would help, if I only knew why they denied his entry.

I would contact Senator or congressman's immigration liaison and/or an immigration lawyer.

what happend next????????????????????????

once your wife got to the embassy- they revalidated it?

did she have to sign a paper too?

was she banned?

I wonder how long it took you to clear it up..

[I'm Gone 60]

mdyoung - I'm confused. Do you mean your fiancee (at the time) received her visa but the petition in the secret envelope that you turn over at the POE was expired and they wouldn't let her in?

Had she not gone back to the embassy to have the petition revalidated that's what would have happened. The petition was approved Nov 2001 and the Visa wasn't issued until April 2002. The Manila embassy said they gave everyone another 4 months from the time they received the petition packet, but didn't officially revalidate the petition. So I knew the petition had to have been expired.

what happend next????????????????????????

once your wife got to the embassy- they revalidated it?

did she have to sign a paper too?

was she banned?

I wonder how long it took you to clear it up..

Like I said I believe my wife's situation was something different. I was just responding to the person that said they never heard of a person with a valid visa being turned away. She went back to embassy gave them the brown envolope and they gave back to her and INS let her in the country, so I'm assuming they revalidated the petition. No papers were signed at the POE.

Edited May 30, 2006 by mdyoung

[kitkat1 5]

WOW. I am in shock that these things happen. Hard to know if this was the case for the OP. But thank you for posting this - no doubt we will all be aware of this going forward.

[MrsBruce5 0]

Sorry to hear this, I know what your going threw! Stephen was denied entry as well, I waited for hours and hours and i was never told he was denied and i sat at the airport waiting, I even placed a call back to customs while waiting and they told me no one had been denied so i waited and waited finally called home to check if any messages had been left by him and there was one 'he whispered hunny im so sorry they wont let me in I love you and please call my family and make arrangments for me to be picked up in manchester and i did, i called his mum and they picked him up he ended up getting home before i did and my drive to the airport was only 2 hours..he came threw dulles washington<IAD> on the VWP and is not allowed back in the states..... Just wanted to let you know your not the only one...Best Wishes~Kelle

Hi Kelle,

Your finace was denied on VWP, which is vastly different and subject to more denial than a K1. Still, I am sorry that you had to go through such an ordeal.

Best wishes with your K1.

And to the OP, I would suggest calling an attorney at once.

Good Luck to you.

Rose

[Maria&Robert 0]

Golden, at this point because, it looks like he refused to sign it is the

reason why he got denied. if that is true. its F up

they did not have a translater for him.

Yes this is what I was thinking. The only reason he was denied entry was simply because of the fact that he did not sign that paper. I dont understand why he would not want to sign it.

YES they should have found a translator for him!! But if he knew it was basic biographical information then why wouldnt he want to sign it??

[babybunny 2]

mdyoung - I'm confused. Do you mean your fiancee (at the time) received her visa but the petition in the secret envelope that you turn over at the POE was expired and they wouldn't let her in?

Had she not gone back to the embassy to have the petition revalidated that's what would have happened. The petition was approved Nov 2001 and the Visa wasn't issued until April 2002. The Manila embassy said they gave everyone another 4 months from the time they received the petition packet, but didn't officially revalidate the petition. So I knew the petition had to have been expired.

what happend next????????????????????????

once your wife got to the embassy- they revalidated it?

did she have to sign a paper too?

was she banned?

I wonder how long it took you to clear it up..

Like I said I believe my wife's situation was something different. I was just responding to the person that said they never heard of a person with a valid visa being turned away. She went back to embassy gave them the brown envolope and they gave back to her and INS let her in the country, so I'm assuming they revalidated the petition. No papers were signed at the POE.

GOlden

been to hell and back with this.. only to be in hell again..

when will this nightmare end. my heart goes out to her...

[Maria&Robert 0]

Sorry to hear this, I know what your going threw! Stephen was denied entry as well, I waited for hours and hours and i was never told he was denied and i sat at the airport waiting, I even placed a call back to customs while waiting and they told me no one had been denied so i waited and waited finally called home to check if any messages had been left by him and there was one 'he whispered hunny im so sorry they wont let me in I love you and please call my family and make arrangments for me to be picked up in manchester and i did, i called his mum and they picked him up he ended up getting home before i did and my drive to the airport was only 2 hours..he came threw dulles washington<IAD> on the VWP and is not allowed back in the states..... Just wanted to let you know your not the only one...Best Wishes~Kelle

Hi Kelle,

Your finace was denied on VWP, which is vastly different and subject to more denial than a K1. Still, I am sorry that you had to go through such an ordeal.

Best wishes with your K1.

And to the OP, I would suggest calling an attorney at once.

Good Luck to you.

Rose

Mrs.Bruce I take it you are talking about the Visa Waiver Program. Can you explain further on what you mean when you say that being denied on the VWP is vastly differnt than being denied on the K1?

I take it that, from what I understand, the VWP is kind of a favor visa, and they can reneg that favor anytime? While a K1 visa is the real thing and to be denied at the POE is almost unheard of and absolutely outrageous...

[MrsBruce5 0]

Hello Maria,

What I mean by that is a VWP can be denied on the basis that the person using it can have one too many trips to the states, in a short period of time- and in those trips, the time frame of stay is close to the end of it's validity. It is more subject to denial, as the POE officer can deem that person an "immigration risk", as they are developing "ties" here. Hence, a denial which is more subjective to the POE. It happens a lot...

The K1 on the other hand, is an intent to marry, and that intent is clear. It is also subject to more security scrutiny at the USCIS than a VWP (in which there really is none), making the K1 more "solid" than a VWP.

Hope I explained it OK.

Rose

Edited May 30, 2006 by MrsBruce5

[rebeccajo 14]

I really really don't mean to imply anything here - I'm asking for educational purposes only....

It CBP finds contraband on a passenger, what is the ban?

[LaL 418]

ohhhh noooo Golden!

do you think the TB test had anything to do with it? Gosh I hope this is all a big misunderstanding

((((hugs))))

[desert_fox 32]

Hello All VJ's

Yesterday my honey was to arrive to Denver via POE Atlanta. But he never arrived!

I was in complete hysteric and attempt to call him on his cellular throughout the night. Needless to say, he called me at 4 am this morning to tell me that he has been detained and pending deportation.

I asked him why? and he said that they wanted him to sign a document, but they did not tell him the content of the document and he refused to sign it. They kept him in detention for 27 hours before deporting him. He said he do not know where they will be taking him because they confiscated his passport and visa. I called the immigration and they told me that they could not provide me with information, due to the Privacy Act. They said that I must talk to my fiance. My fiance called me soon after to tell me that he was leaving Atlanta in 10 minutes and I asked him a ton of questions but the officer behind him threathen to hang up the phone if he answered my questions. BTW, my fiance said they told him that he is ban from the USA for 5 years!!!!

I'm at a lost here and I do not know what to do!!!! Can someone provide me with some guidance here. I feel after all of my hard work, I failed in getting my honey home and now his life is totally screwed because of me

They do not send you back for refusing to sign a paper. It seems he tried to enter on a VWP, but they didnt believe that he was a valid visitor, and they have full discretion to send him back. Congressman aint gonna help. You need to post how he attempted to enter and what the issues were. Sounds like he was asked to sign a voluntary departure thingie; he refused, so they applied a ban on re-entry. But hard to say what happened with the incomplete info that you posted.

[tom&tata 2]

BTW, my fiance said they told him that he is ban from the USA for 5 years!!!!

This is confusing. I have heard/read before that someone with approved & valid visa is denied entry (expired petition is possible, waiver requirement was an example), but is it possible to get banned for 5 years as a result of trying to enter with K-1, K3, or CR-1?