can we go to the UK?

[Martiniolive 0]

My husband and I were discussing all of our backup plans if we don't

get a visa for him to join me in the USA. One idea is that he has

family in the UK and life there for us will be a better choice than

morocco because of english language. He says if his relatives petition

or invite us we can go there. Has anyone done this? we were thinking we

can live (and work) there for a few years until we can maybe come to

the USA together if we still want that eventually. Any ideas?

[S and S 12]

The UK has its own string of rules and regulation in order for you to live and work there. I'm not very familiar with how it works, but I do know you need a sponsor. It sounds like you might have one so maybe........

I wish you good luck and hope that you are with your husband soon.

[anitacastillo 0]

I don't know anything about him getting there and being legal to work -- but I do know that you, the USC, will not have an easy time finding legal work there. I don't know what type of work you do/want to do --- pub work is probably possible, not probably not office work for a company. Unless you currently work for someone who would send you there.

The Europeans want us to visit and spend $$ - but not work --- mirrors the US.

Way to think out side of the box. There may be smaller country options that are easier. Have you investigated Canada??

[Martiniolive 0]

he has no relatives in canada so I do not think he can go there. He has an uncle in London who would sponsor both of us. I have relatives in vancouver tho.

I don't know anything about him getting there and being legal to work -- but I do know that you, the USC, will not have an easy time finding legal work there. I don't know what type of work you do/want to do --- pub work is probably possible, not probably not office work for a company. Unless you currently work for someone who would send you there.

The Europeans want us to visit and spend $$ - but not work --- mirrors the US.

Way to think out side of the box. There may be smaller country options that are easier. Have you investigated Canada??

[Staashi 371]

Carole, I think you're giving up too quick. I know it is good to have a backup plan, but you're not finished yet. Make it work (as Tim Gunn says) - you can do this. You just need to get on the stick with the USEM. Furthermore, you need to learn everything you can about your congressional reps and senators - get them to fight for you on this issue. It can be done.

I send you lots of support!

[morocco4ever 63]

Carole, I think you're giving up too quick. I know it is good to have a backup plan, but you're not finished yet. Make it work (as Tim Gunn says) - you can do this. You just need to get on the stick with the USEM. Furthermore, you need to learn everything you can about your congressional reps and senators - get them to fight for you on this issue. It can be done.

I send you lots of support!

I agree and disagree...lol

I do believe that you always should have a backup plan, but don't give up on the system here yet. You are way to early in the process to make any firm decisions.

How are things going with your representatives? Are they helping? I have heard of some that are useless. When ours was denied I had contacted the senators office. At first the lady was just a big flake and blew us off. That is when I went with the congressman. He was very hard to convince at first that the marriage was real, but once I convinced him he stood by me, although he wasn't quite as aggressive as I would have liked. I had completely given up on the senators office at that point, but after several months I got a phone call from another one of the senators liasons. This one was located in Washington DC. She asked me if the other lady had been of much assistance and I told her no. She took the reins and was very aggressive. She even got the consulate to admit that they had made a mistake in our case, but because the case had already been sent back they couldn't change it. I am sure that is why there was absolutely no questions on his second interview.

The reason I am explaining this is that if your representatives aren't helpful could it be because you haven't convinced them? I hope they are helping, but just keep going. One day at a time.

I am not sure of the process in the UK, but I wouldn't say it will be any easier. My husband had a friend that married a girl from the UK, and they were denied. She ended up pregnant and delivering with him still in Morocco. They accused him of using her for a greencard. She was able to fight them in court and won, and he has been there for 2 years. They have their second child together now. Their timeline was about the same as ours, and their system seemed to be working a little faster, but it was surely no easier. Also if their system is similar to ours then he might have a pretty long wait. For instance, they would have to be a citizen, and for a relative that isn't either mother, father, husband, child, it takes much longer for them to immigrate. Like I stated, that is if their system is like ours.

[nunyab 0]

I understand the need for a backup plan it helps with the feeling of some hope. Ours is Spain as you know he already works there and is a residant. My Grandmother is from Spain so that is no problem for me to migrate there.

with that being sad make your plans "just-in-case" it helps I know. But don't lose site of what youre soooo close to getting.

If England is your destination start looking for work there. Or a transfer it helps with the visa process as well.

Keep your hope Martini

[Martiniolive 0]

Unfortunately after speaking with a conressional rep. I was told that as of august the law changed and (she ref'd a simular case as mine she had from august 08) we are no longer allowed to contest the consulates dicission to deny a petition and when they are denied they are no longer rebutable. She said once denyed now they are cancelled peroid! Even a CR1. She said I can wait several mos or years until they get around to telling me it is invalid. Botoom line is it is now perminantly denyed and con not be contested. She says that is the new law and to get an attorney simply so I will know the reson for the denial because only an attorney is legally required to get the information.

Carole, I think you're giving up too quick. I know it is good to have a backup plan, but you're not finished yet. Make it work (as Tim Gunn says) - you can do this. You just need to get on the stick with the USEM. Furthermore, you need to learn everything you can about your congressional reps and senators - get them to fight for you on this issue. It can be done.

I send you lots of support!

I agree and disagree...lol

I do believe that you always should have a backup plan, but don't give up on the system here yet. You are way to early in the process to make any firm decisions.

How are things going with your representatives? Are they helping? I have heard of some that are useless. When ours was denied I had contacted the senators office. At first the lady was just a big flake and blew us off. That is when I went with the congressman. He was very hard to convince at first that the marriage was real, but once I convinced him he stood by me, although he wasn't quite as aggressive as I would have liked. I had completely given up on the senators office at that point, but after several months I got a phone call from another one of the senators liasons. This one was located in Washington DC. She asked me if the other lady had been of much assistance and I told her no. She took the reins and was very aggressive. She even got the consulate to admit that they had made a mistake in our case, but because the case had already been sent back they couldn't change it. I am sure that is why there was absolutely no questions on his second interview.

The reason I am explaining this is that if your representatives aren't helpful could it be because you haven't convinced them? I hope they are helping, but just keep going. One day at a time.

I am not sure of the process in the UK, but I wouldn't say it will be any easier. My husband had a friend that married a girl from the UK, and they were denied. She ended up pregnant and delivering with him still in Morocco. They accused him of using her for a greencard. She was able to fight them in court and won, and he has been there for 2 years. They have their second child together now. Their timeline was about the same as ours, and their system seemed to be working a little faster, but it was surely no easier. Also if their system is similar to ours then he might have a pretty long wait. For instance, they would have to be a citizen, and for a relative that isn't either mother, father, husband, child, it takes much longer for them to immigrate. Like I stated, that is if their system is like ours.

[Staashi 371]

Unfortunately after speaking with a conressional rep. I was told that as of august the law changed and (she ref'd a simular case as mine she had from august 08) we are no longer allowed to contest the consulates dicission to deny a petition and when they are denied they are no longer rebutable. She said once denyed now they are cancelled peroid! Even a CR1. She said I can wait several mos or years until they get around to telling me it is invalid. Botoom line is it is now perminantly denyed and con not be contested. She says that is the new law and to get an attorney simply so I will know the reson for the denial because only an attorney is legally required to get the information.

Carole, is there something else that was brought up in the interview that would permanently deny him entry to US? I guess I'm just not seeing it based upon the Affidavit of Support. Has he done anything in his past that you know of? Overstayed his time in US - which would cause a 10-year ban? Did he misrepresent himself? There are major issues for permanent deniability...such as being a member of a terrorist organization or fraud. Those are the biggies. I am so sorry that you are facing this situation. These are the moments when it is hard to understand the US government.

[Martiniolive 0]

That we both know of he has not done anything bad. and they gave no reason for the denial and are ignoring us because they are finished with us. The congressmans office said a new law just passed whereby after a denial the petition is just cancelled. No rebuttals...no nothing. I am trying to get a lawyer to verify it. So Sad!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately after speaking with a conressional rep. I was told that as of august the law changed and (she ref'd a simular case as mine she had from august 08) we are no longer allowed to contest the consulates dicission to deny a petition and when they are denied they are no longer rebutable. She said once denyed now they are cancelled peroid! Even a CR1. She said I can wait several mos or years until they get around to telling me it is invalid. Botoom line is it is now perminantly denyed and con not be contested. She says that is the new law and to get an attorney simply so I will know the reson for the denial because only an attorney is legally required to get the information.

Carole, is there something else that was brought up in the interview that would permanently deny him entry to US? I guess I'm just not seeing it based upon the Affidavit of Support. Has he done anything in his past that you know of? Overstayed his time in US - which would cause a 10-year ban? Did he misrepresent himself? There are major issues for permanent deniability...such as being a member of a terrorist organization or fraud. Those are the biggies. I am so sorry that you are facing this situation. These are the moments when it is hard to understand the US government.