Martial Law in the USA, can you belive this?

[IAMX 3,055]

The article talks about the preparation for martial law and the people who don't like the idea will be sitting back and doing nothing?

Maybe you didn't read what you actually quoted. The part you quoted was merely him being a person of moral servitude and questioning and reasoning why he's serving and the cause of it. This had nothing at all to do with blowing up buildings. So your little McCarthy'ist-style ad hominem about McVeigh is just that, bullshit, and just an excuse for you to feel better about being a nice little sheep, which goes into this part..

Not surprising since you yourself have been largely all talk about how you lost many important liberties in the last 8 years and didn't do anything but play a self-styled Paul Revere of the Internet. Any accomplishments yet of you or your political party of what 12 guys in San Francisco?

.. as I never bothered asking how many others are voting with me, as it doesn't matter. That's because it's nice being an individual, making choices on your own, rather than voting based upon what's most popular. How does it feel to be yet another Republican follower? Does it make you feel comfortable?

[NickD 202]

You and Tim McVeigh must have been battle buddies.

Ask yourself why all the scare talk pushed by people like yourself posting this stuff daily? More politics of fear to combat the politics of fear?

Very inconsiderate of you, alienlovechild, to compare us men that vowed to protect our country with an insane person that killed Americans. And I did ask if the above was true, was shocked to read it myself. I worked hard all my life, served my country honorably, paid my taxes, but IF we have leadership that gets this country into a mess, and already has plans to treat US citizens like criminals, then it is time for a revolt.

I can't imagine any of my old military buddies ransacking houses and arresting women and children, putting them in a truck and hauling them off to a Nazi type concentration camp just because some leader feels his errors will end up in a revolt. Especially with a leader that runs and hides after 9/11, but does come home when his mommy tells him it is safe. Just like he evaded the war in VM like his predecessor did by learning how to BS at Harvard. Just one thing after another with this guy, and looks like he is going to get away with it and okay for him to send young women to do his bidding.

So do these camps really exist? And are their troops willing to carry out these orders? If there is, I am out of here, especially living in the same country with people who have attitudes like you.

[IAMX 3,055]

If there is, I am out of here, especially living in the same country with people who have attitudes like you.

People like him are in the minority, and they need to be dragged out in the public and humiliated and socially dragged through the mud for their dissent-hating jingoism. It was never a rational argument he gave to begin with.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I've lived under martial law before. During the riots of the 1960's, it was instituted once or twice in DC. There were curfews and armed troops on the streets. It wasn't so bad.

[pedroh 21]

I've lived under martial law before. During the riots of the 1960's, it was instituted once or twice in DC. There were curfews and armed troops on the streets. It wasn't so bad.

well too bad is the 2000, and the government just cant get away with it.. now we have civil rights and liberties..

freakin american regime.. fascists and dictators.. tsk tsk

I don't see you and your amigos escaping back to Mexico in droves. The Wall hasn't been finished yet. You better hurry though.

Disgustingly uncalled for.

oh.. it's so unsurprising that I ignore it.. He still thinks that all Mexicans are illegals.. and we are a cancer to this society

[alienlovechild 75]

The part you quoted was merely him being a person of moral servitude and questioning and reasoning why he's serving and the cause of it. This had nothing at all to do with blowing up buildings. So your little McCarthy'ist-style ad hominem about McVeigh is just that, bullshit, and just an excuse for you to feel better about being a nice little sheep, which goes into this part..

C'mon the guy was gullible in airing the same martial law articles I've seen in the last couple of days by different posters and you expect it will actually happen or feel the need give him a pat on the back for being alert or something to some looming threat? There's nothing inherently moral about being an alarmist spreading ####### that is likely as the Second Coming in your book.

.. as I never bothered asking how many others are voting with me, as it doesn't matter. That's because it's nice being an individual, making choices on your own, rather than voting based upon what's most popular. How does it feel to be yet another Republican follower? Does it make you feel comfortable?

You must be pretty ashamed of your party affliation cuz I never get you to admit it no matter how many times I bring it up. I know why you don't do it because you'd have to defend your position. I don't think McCain is the most popular candidate this year so your theory is bunk. I'm more comfortable dealing with an imperfect reality of representative government offering limited choices instead of living in a fantasy world where you somehow believe you're going to vote for some guy that has no possibility of ever winning.

[IAMX 3,055]

You must be pretty ashamed of your party affliation cuz I never get you to admit it no matter how many times I bring it up. I know why you don't do it because you'd have to defend your position.

What is there to defend? There's no logical reason to have a party affiliation. These people aren't my SO or family. If you want to act loyal to people who stick their foot up your a$$ so be it, but please make it look more funny by trying to put me down for not limiting my options like you do.

I don't think McCain is the most popular candidate this year so your theory is bunk. I'm more comfortable dealing with an imperfect reality of representative government offering limited choices instead of living in a fantasy world where you somehow believe you're going to vote for some guy that has no possibility of ever winning.

He's the most popular candidate because you think you have one of two choices, and it's clear by every rant of yours that you'd never vote for Obama or a Democrat anyways. So you threw away your own choices because of how everyone else votes. And indeed, limiting your own options just because they aren't the most statistically viable is stupid and cult-like. Did everyone else pick your car or your house for you too?

[alienlovechild 75]

Very inconsiderate of you, alienlovechild, to compare us men that vowed to protect our country with an insane person that killed Americans. And I did ask if the above was true, was shocked to read it myself. I worked hard all my life, served my country honorably, paid my taxes, but IF we have leadership that gets this country into a mess, and already has plans to treat US citizens like criminals, then it is time for a revolt.

I don't know how sane you are and guys like McVeigh think they're doing the right thing. You shouldn't have been shocked at all by the article if spent time in uniform or knew about the possibility of martial law really happening. Revolt isn't the first step unless the political system has broken down beyond reform. If you've worked hard for what you have, what happens when the police and military are overwhelmed with self-styled flag-wavers shooting guys in uniform? You, your family and possessions are at the mercy of any guy with a gun.

Just one thing after another with this guy, and looks like he is going to get away with it and okay for him to send young women to do his bidding.

Bush? I think the voters will determine the fate for his successor. Women?

So do these camps really exist? And are their troops willing to carry out these orders? If there is, I am out of here, especially living in the same country with people who have attitudes like you.

Are you currently living in the U.S? If the camps existed there would be large of provisions needed to sustain POWs, transportation, facility would have to secure and heavily manned. Think logically and don't buy everything you're told on the Internet. The logistics aren't there, the U.S. has over 100,000 troops in Iraq a nation of 24 million. The U.S. government would need more than a one million troops to pacify the U.S. with 300 million. You're free to leave your nation at any time if you can't handle political disagreements with some guy on the Internet.

People like him are in the minority, and they need to be dragged out in the public and humiliated and socially dragged through the mud for their dissent-hating jingoism. It was never a rational argument he gave to begin with.

You're in the minority right? Where's your flock of sheep? You're incoherent on the same thread. Dragging people though the mud for holding the "wrong" political views. As I said before, you only grant rights to those who agree with you and everyone else gets the short of the baton in the face.

[TexPamp 0]

Ever since the emergence of the internet, paranoia has become a contagious diesease.

[alienlovechild 75]

There's no logical reason to have a party affiliation.

You don't have be affliated with a political party but viable independents are few and far between. You are voting for for somebody with some party affliation and you know it.

He's the most popular candidate because you think you have one of two choices, and it's clear by every rant of yours that you'd never vote for Obama or a Democrat anyways. So you threw away your own choices because of how everyone else votes. And indeed, limiting your own options just because they aren't the most statistically viable is stupid and cult-like. Did everyone else pick your car or your house for you too?

You can buy any car or house you can afford but your choices on a ballot are limited so your comparison is beyond silly. You have yet to explain how voting for a nobody changes anything. The only logical way would be for you to push for some candidate in the hopes on drumming up enough buzz that translates into votes. The fact you have never even articulated this rationale is telling. I can't believe you ever took a course in political science.

[alienlovechild 75]

Ever since the emergence of the internet, paranoia has become a contagious diesease.

It's a high-tech rumor mill. The fact some people believe martial law is around the corner despite the reality of daily life is disturbing. Worse, these folks have access to guns so how little will it take to set them off? They claim to be sane but they are talking about being persecuted by me (a guy with no power) or guys like me.

[IAMX 3,055]

You don't have be affliated with a political party but viable independents are few and far between. You are voting for for somebody with some party affliation and you know it.

Indeed, however, their party means little to me. Otherwise I'd have stuck to one, like so many others who want to pretend everyone else is affiliated as they are.

You can buy any car or house you can afford but your choices on a ballot are limited so your comparison is beyond silly. You have yet to explain how voting for a nobody changes anything. The only logical way would be for you to push for some candidate in the hopes on drumming up enough buzz that translates into votes. The fact you have never even articulated this rationale is telling. I can't believe you ever took a course in political science.

Your choices on the ballot for President are not limited. What the hell ever made you think this?

Voting for a nobody may or may not change anything. I'm not out to change things. If I do, great. If not, nothing beyond expectations. I'm out to exercise my own vote.

You don't exactly see me pushing for Brian Moore or the Socialist Party. You don't see me with pro-Socialist sigs. You don't see me defending any criticism of Brian Moore, or anyone else, like I have to defend a politician. You do see me suggesting people should open up their options, regardless of who the vote is for, and criticizing anyone who merits it.

What's your excuse for being so politically fawning of Republicans and a jingoist toward people criticizing the country? Of course, I'd also love to suggest your comparison of a disillusioned vet to Timothy McVeigh was anything close to rational. When you start becoming a little more open-minded, instead of a Republican who needs to be dragged out of the closet kicking and screaming, then I'll take your attacks on my education a little more seriously.

[NickD 202]

Building concentration camps in this country for Americans may be false, but getting enough men to enforce Martial Law may not be too far fetched if they can keep all the goodies or a good share of them for their efforts. It worked in Germany with supposingly an intelligent population as greed does surpass intelligence.

What is true in the last 20 years, that long 40 year old cold war was ended after spending trillions of dollars for defense against, life in the USA should have been much better. But on the contrary, much worse. A huge number of our jobs have disappeared, property taxes have skyrocketed as has college tuition, energy prices have increased by over 400%, roads and bridges have gone to hell, somebody in a high level teed off a handful of terrorists to attack this country, it sure wasn't you or me, a none congress war was started that is costing us more than the cold war, 3/4 of a million people were killed in this war with many more severely wounded, Wal-Mart has flourished selling us Chinese junk we don't need with most of their employees on a part time basis with zero benefits including health insurance, health insurance rates have skyrocketed due for those that could afford it, paying for everybody else, and many other nasty things.

Former laughing stocks are made president, like Reagan, Clinton, and the two Bush's, with really no opposition. Al Gore was a bad joke in the scientific community, and Kerry is a blood brother of George W. that took an oath to protect him in that Harvard Skull thing. But eight years ago, McCain was even a worse joke. Is Obama the savior? Do not think so, his rhetoric is like listening to a broken LP recored repeating the same track over and over again.

Can't even rent a DVD without being threatened by our own FBI to protect a foreign country that for years has stolen our technology, and with illegal campaign contributions has managed to take over 95% of our electronic business. Many of their movies are intended to brain wash the American public, if you haven't guessed, the foreign company, it's Sony.

Reality is that our leaders are giving away our country, to put us in concentration camps for rebelling, is not too far fetched.

[IAMX 3,055]

Can't even rent a DVD without being threatened by our own FBI to protect a foreign country that for years has stolen our technology, and with illegal campaign contributions has managed to take over 95% of our electronic business. Many of their movies are intended to brain wash the American public, if you haven't guessed, the foreign company, it's Sony.

If you think that's bad, you should see ACTA.