Martial Law in the USA, can you belive this?

[NickD 202]

From http://www.light1998.com/FEMA.htm

As a former military, I or any of my buddies would never support a plan like this, we took an oath to defend America, not attack it, more than likely would be turning our weapons toward those that are attempting to enforce it/ But are we actually paying tax dollars for this? Have to congratulate my fellow Americans for really putting some nuts in the White House if this is true. Cannot deny they have already sold our country out to foreign nations, but not a damned thing is being done about it. Who exactly are the real traitors in this country?

"FEMA WAS "NOT" CREATED UNDER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW BY CONGRESS! IT HAS THE POWER TO SUSPEND LAWS, TAKE OVER BANKS, TRANSPORTATION, AND INDUSTRY! THUS, RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OR DEMOCRACY!

FEMA IS ALSO ESTABLISHING CONCENTRATION CAMPS ON AMERICAN SOIL AS WE SPEAK!

"The infrastructure is set up. There are at least 130 concentration camps—quietly modified facilities which have sprung up and continue to spring up across the country, seemingly devoid of activity, yet requiring strange accoutrements such as barbed wire-topped fencing (with the tops turned inward) and helicopter wind socks. Most have good logistical supportability, with major highways and railroad transport facilities adjacent to the sites.

The OMEGA File - Concentration Camps Federal Emergency Management Agency

Although an excellent article, the January 1995 edition of Monitoring Times' magazine published only a tiny portion of what FEMA has been tasked by Executive Order to perform. FEMA was brought into existence by E.O. All the frequencies I have for FEMA follow my comments here:

Federal Emergency Management Agency [F.E.M.A.] [and other emergency agencies]:

F.E.M.A. [Federal Emergency Management Agency] has been authorized for the past 15 years by Presidential Executive Orders to confiscate

ALL PROPERTY from the American People, separate families in the current 43 internment camps [already built and operational by the way, 5 of which are located in Georgia. The largest can confine somewhere on the order of 100,000 American citizens], called relocation camps by the 'government', for assignment to work camps; declares martial law and TOTALLY OVER-RIDES the U.S. Constitution.

Presidential Executive Orders that are related or control this are given at the end of this. Two of the state prisons here in Georgia are currently empty, although manned by a minimal number of staff, have been setup and intentionally unpopulated by prisoners just to support this political policy.

Concentration [internment] Camps.

An Executive Order signed by then President BUSH in 1989 authorized the Federal Emergency Management Agency [F.E.M.A.] to build 43 primary camps [having a capacity of 35,000 to 45,000 prisoners EACH] and also authorized hundreds of secondary facilities. It is interesting to note that several of these facilities can accommodate 100,000 prisoners. These facilities have been completed and many are already manned but as yet contain no prisoners. [Remember all the TALK of over-crowded prisons that exist...]. In south Georgia there are several state prisons that except for a few guards, are completely devoid of prisoners.

Under F.E.M.A., the Executive Orders which are already written and is the current law of the land, calls for the COMPLETE suspension of the United States Constitution, all rights and liberties, as they are currently known. The following

executive orders, which are in the Federal Register located in Washington DC for anyone to request copies of, call for the suspension of all civil rights and liberties and for extraordinary measures to be taken in, as most of the orders state, "any national security emergency situation that might confront the government." When F.E.M.A. is implemented, the following executive orders will be immediately enforced:

E.O. 12148 - FEMA national security emergency, such as: national disaster, social unrest, insurrection, or national financial crisis.

E.O. 10995 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL communications media in the United States."

E.O. 10997 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL electric power, petroleum, gas, fuels and minerals, both public and private."

E.O. 10998 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL food supplies and resources, public and private, and ALL farms, lands, and equipment."

E.O. 10999 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL means of transportation, including PERSONAL cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and

TOTAL CONTROL over all highways, seaports, and waterways."

E.O. 11000 - "... provides for the SEIZURE OF ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE for work forces under federal supervision, including SPLITTING UP OF FAMILIES if the government has to."

E.O. 11001 - "... provides for government seizure of ALL health, education and welfare functions."

E.O. 11002 - "... designates the postmaster general to operate a national REGISTRATION of all persons." [under this order, you would report to your local post office to be separated and assigned to a new area. Here is where families would be separated].

E.O. 11003 - "... provides for the government to take over ALL airports and aircraft, commercial, public and PRIVATE."

E.O. 11004 - "... provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned and establish new locations for populations."

E.O. 11005 - "... provides for the government to TAKE OVER railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities."

E.O. 11051 - "... the office of Emergency Planning [has] complete authorization to put the above orders into effect in time of increased international tension or economic or financial crisis."

All of the above executive orders were combined by President NIXON into Executive Order 11490, which allows all of this to take place if a national emergency is declared by the President. The burning and insurrection in Los Angeles in the case of Rodney King could have executed [and partially did execute] these Executive Orders.

Executive Order 12919: "National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness" signed by CLINTON June 3, 1994, delegates authorities, responsibilities and allocations of F.E.M.A.'s Executive Orders [last entry] for the confiscation of ALL PROPERTY from the American people, and their re-location and assignment to 'labor' camps.

The Executive Order also supersedes or revokes eleven (11) previous Executive Orders [from 1939 through 1991] and amends Executive Order 10789 and 11790.

This executive order is A DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE by the [secret] Government of the United States in concert with the UNITED NATIONS. Operation Dragnet. Janet Reno can implement this operation upon receiving one call from the President. Arrest warrants will be issued via computer to round-up over 1 MILLION PATRIOTIC AMERICANS who may 'resist' the NEW WORLD ORDER. Americans who are not 'politically correct.' Specifically mentioned are CHRISTIANS or those who read the Bible. Concentration/internment camps have already been built to accommodate these American prisoners. See above paragraph as these internment camps have been setup and are run by F.E.M.A.

Operation Rolling Thunder. Reno has mentioned this operation which comprises county-wide sweeps of house to house, dynamic entry, search and seizures for all guns and food stockpiles by B.A.T.F., state national guard, activity duty soldiers, as well as local police. This function is also run and coordinated through F.E.M.A.

Public Law 100-690 banned almost ALL RELIGIOUS GATHERINGS [not yet enforced..].

GOTO:HR 2431

(Note: When and if this is enforced, this will be a blatant defecation upon the BILL OF RIGHTS, and in this event every true American is allowed -- and in fact it will be his and her Patriotic DUTY -- to implement the clause within the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE to OVERTHROW such an alien or FOREIGN tyranny-structure which has like a tape-worm infested the governing 'body' of America. -

(Branton); grants no-knock search and seizures without a search warrant; expands the drug laws to include EVERY American. This will generally be the prelude, or in addition to, a F.E.M.A. operation and contingency plan implementation. The Omnibus Crime Bill of 1990.

Ensures confiscation of all private property via money laundering, environmental violations of the Clean Water and Air Act, and extends as far as child abuse. This act also coordinates activities through F.E.M.A. and the Department of the Army, Commanding General, U.S. Forces Command, Fort McPherson, GA which is the executive and implementing agency upon initiation of many of these acts. The responsible agency within U.S. Army Forces Command was what used to be known as the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, Plans Division [DCSOPS, Plans], which was changed several years ago to J-3 after the Headquarters became a joint headquarters. They keep on file copies of all F.E.M.A. Emergency Management Operation Plans, including those plans developed by the Army to support the F.E.M.A. plan to eliminate the U.S.

Constitution upon implementation. According to current plans, the Constitution will be 'temporarily' discontinued and shelved until the real or perceived and declared 'threat' has been neutralized (ask yourself -- who or what is the REAL threat that needs to be 'neutralized'? -

Branton).

But once 'shelved,' as with almost every other action of the Government, it STAYS shelved.

The Crime Bill of 1994. Banning of all military weapons which are necessary to the formation of a militia [when needed], denies other military equipment to the people's militia units (that's OK... the average American gun owner can legally acquire this 'equipment' from off the DEAD BODIES of UN/FEMA-backed gestapo forces when they break-in to our homes to steal our personal property or try to take us and our families prisoner without due process of law. - Branton), prelude to confiscating ALL guns in the hands of private citizens, DESTROYS the 1st Amendment, and makes virtually every American an outlaw. See above comments concerning the house-to-house search. The agency responsible for the actual implementation and search is the Department of the Army in concert with local and state police, including F.E.M.A., FBI, BATF, and other Federal Agencies.

SECRET UNDERGROUND BASES. There have been documented over 60 secret, VIRTUAL CITIES, UNDERGROUND, built by the government, Federal Reserve Bank Owners (such as the 'Rockefellers', etc. - Branton), and high ranking members of the Committee of 300 [some of these under-ground areas can be seen in Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas]. In additional, there exist underground Satellite Tracking Facilities which have the ability to punch your 911 address into the computer and a satellite can within seconds bring a camera to bear on your property to the point that those monitoring can read a license number on an automobile in your driveway. These facilities have as of Oct. 1, 1994, been turned over to the [foreign power of the] UNITED NATIONS.

(Note: Forget the license plate, according to information released by Norio Hayakawa, this satellite technology is now so sophisticated that they can CLEARLY read every word on your driver's LICENSE supposing it were in view of the satellite.

Concentration Camps ?

Alabama:

*Opelika* WWII German/Italian POW camp now being renovated.

Alaska:

Wilds* of Alaska possibly East of Anchorage. No access by road however, there is a railway system. Facility holds 500,000 and will be used for forced labor.

Arizona:

*Ft. Huachua, Arizona* 20 miles from the Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales. -Rex 84 program- Emergency Custodial Facility.

*Florence* WWII German/Italian POW camp now being renovated.

*Pinal County* -Gila River- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.

*Yuma County* -Colorado River- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.

Arkansas:

*Ft. Chaffee* Has a new runway for aircraft, new detention camp facilities with cap of 20,000 prisoners.

*Chicot/Drew Counties* -Jerome- Renovated spec Interment camps for Japanese Americans WWII.

*Descha County* -Rohwer- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention

centers.

*Blythville AFB* This base was closed but is now being used as a camp location. New wooden barracks have been constructed at this location. This camp is surrounded by high wire topped with barbed wire, and has guard towers.

*Berryville * FEMA facility located east of Eureaka on hwy 62. Mark Korneke claims that it is located near Tyson's property.

*Omaha * FEMA facility located on Hwy 65 south of old wood processing plant. It is on an old dirt road that leads to a toxic waste dump.

Note: The facility in Ms. is also located on an old toxic waste dump.

California:

*Oakdale Ca* 90 miles East of San Francisco on HWY 120. Holds a minimum of 15,000 people -REX 84- program Emergence Custodial

Facility.

*Vandenberg AFB* Located midway between San Louis Obispo, and Santa Barbara. The base is on HWY 1 and close to WHY 101. REX 84

program, Emergency Custodial Facility.

*Ft.Irwin* Irwin is a remote Mtn region south of Death Valley, National Monument. This base is designated as inactive however, there is a concentration camp located at this facility about 30 miles from Interstate 15 in Barstow.

*Inyo County* - Manzanar- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention center.

*Modoc County* -Tulelake- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.

*Sacramento Army Depot* No specific data at this time.

Florida:

*Avon Park* -- No data available -

*Camp Krome* Located near Miami Dept of Justice detention and interrogation facility.

*Elgin AFB* This base is greater than 50 miles long extending from Pensacola Bay to HWY 331 in De Funiak Springs. It is adjacent to Interstate 10 on the North and the Fort Walton Beach vacation spot. REX 84 program, Emergency Custodial Facility.

Georgia:

*Ft. Benning* Located East of Columbia near the Georgia/Alabama state line. -REX 84 program-Emergency Custodial Facility. Prisoners from all over the U.S. may be brought in via Lawson Army airfield.

Unadilla,Ga Macon County; Located on east railroad street, Plunket road leads into the facility 1 1/2 miles from Unadilla on county road 230.

This is a FEMA prison manned and staffed but no prisoners.

Oglethorpe, Ga. Macon County; facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorp. Traveling south on highway 49, located on the west side of the highway. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.

Morgan, Ga. Calhoun County; I-75 exit 32 to 300 south to Albany. Take highway 234 to Morgan.

Go through Morgan taking highway 45 south. The FEMA facility is 1 1/2 miles on the right (west) side of highway 45. This FEMA facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.

Camilla, Ga. Mitchell County; from Camilla take highway 19 south, travel 5.4 miles from 37/19 junction to Mount Zion Road, turn left (east) on Mount Zion Road. The FEMA facility is located on Mount Zion Road aprox: 5.7 miles south of Camilla. This facility is not manned or

staffed and their are no priosoners.

Hawkinsville, Ga Pulaski County; located on fire road 100/ Upper River Road, 2 miles west from alternate 129 North 257 / 112 east. Five miles east of Hawkensville. This FEMA facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.

Abbeyville, Ga. Wil

cox County: south side of Abbeyvilleon highway 129 (Broad Street) off highway 280 (Main Street). This FEMA facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.

McRae, Ga. Telfair County; 1.5 miles west of McRae on highway 134 (8th street). The FEMA facility is on Irwinton Ave. off 8th street. This facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.

Frequencies: 153.7400 Georgia State Correctional Institutions 154.9050 Intrastate Coordinating (car to car state wide) 154.9350 Intrastate

Coordinating (base to base / state wide) 155.3700 Georgia Police Intersystem (State wide)

Idaho:

*Jerome County* -Minipoka- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.

*Kooski* PLUS 50 miles East... Near Lolo pass * moose Creek Unmanned and their is a near by landing strip in or near a national forest.

Illinois:

*Marseilles* It is located on the Illinois river off Interstate 80 on HWY 6. It is a relatively small facility with a cap of 1400 prisoners. Though it is small it is designed like other concentration camp facilities with high fences topped with barbed wire and guard towers. Being located on the Illinois River it is possible that prisoners will be brought in by water, air and ground. Note: This facility is relatively close to Chicago, Illinois.

Indiana:

*Thousands of acres* located just out of Indianapolis, Indiana holds a large Concentration camp facility complete with barracks, high fence, razor wire, towers, turnstyles, a railroad, helicopter landing pads, and what appears to be three large furnaces with 3inch mains on one of the buildings. (Picture on page # 1) This is a massive facility, completed in 1996.

*Ft. Benjamin Harrison* A U.S. Army facility located on the outskirts of Indianapolis will be used to hold prisoners of the NWO.

*Ft. Wayne * FEMA Detention facility

*Terre Haute* FEMA Detention facility

Kansas:

*Leavenworth* U.S. Marshal's Fed Holding Facility PFP.

*Concordia* WWII POW German/Italian POW camp being renovated.

*El Dorado* Federal prison to be converted to U.N. forced labor facility.

*Topeka* 80 acres converted to a holding camp for anti-New World Order prisoners.

Kentucky:

*Louisville* FEMA Detention facility

*Lexington * FEMA Detention facility.

Louisiana:

*Livingston* WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.

Maine:

*Houlton* WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.

Missouri:

*Richards Gebaur AFB* This facility is located in Grandview, A large civilian internment facility has been built on this facility, and base personnel are restricted from the area.

Michigan:

*Kincheloe Correctional Facility* (Formerly Kincheloe AFB with B-52 sized runways). Has five large prison buildings able to house 5000+.

The facility has about 500 prisoners at this time. Location: 20 miles south of Sault Ste. Marie (Soo Locks) at the eastern end of the Upper Penninsula of Michigan. *K.I. Sawyer AFB* Large construction program has been going on under the name of "Operation Gateway". The closure of K.I. Sawyer AFB (another SAC facility) and the transition to an international airport for "over-the-pole" flights to Russia have marked this as a prime location as a detention and deportation terminal to the Gulags of Russia. High security is in place with a large portion of the base closed to civilian view.

Location: 20 miles south of Marquette, MI in the Upper Penninsula of Michigan. *RACO Field* Raco field is an interesting facility. The above ground runways form a perfect triangle. Few buildings appear on the surface, but ventilators can be seen. Civilian workers report that a subsurface facility exists. Patriot intelligence gathering patrols have been stopped and turned back from the area. No publicity exists indicating what the role of Raco Field is, although something IS there. To observers, it is an "inactive WWII base." Location: 15 miles NW of Kincheloe Correctional Facility on hwy 28.

*Bark River* A large construction operation is ongoing in the Bark River, MI, area. Locals are tight-lipped. The facility is off the main highway in a wilderness area. While most of the locals say that the construction is associated with the ELF (extreme low frequency) project of world-wide communications, others suspect FEMA is involved. (note: the ELF grid is located 100 miles NE of the Bark River area)

Location: 20 miles west of Escanaba in the upper penninsula of Michigan.

*General observations* Railroad beds and bridges are being rebuilt. It is observed that newer bridges are built stronger for what may be heavier transport. Reports of "highways to nowhere" are also coming in. The Upper Pennisula is a prime location for detention facilities. Only five highways access the entire penninsula, while huge runways and military complexes in remote/ isolated areas appear across the area.

Canada and Russia are due north. Incoming flights via Gateway would be virtually unnoticed and unrecorded.

*Bay City* Sits on Saginaw Bay which connects to Lake Huron. Prisoners may be brought in by ship from either the United States and Canada. This facility has high fencing, barbed wire and guard towers.

*Grayling* Camp Grayling Michigan National Guard Base. Detention facility. Guards towers, razor wire. See the photographs at http://www.flash.net/~msmith01 *Southwest area of the state* FEMA Detention facility *Central part of the state * FEMA Detention facility *Detroit * FEMA Detention facility

Massachusetts:

*Fort Devens Prison complex* 1/4 mile long structure, and fenced area. In Aire Massachusetts. The under ground part is extensive.

Mississippi:

*Hancock County* - The NASA facility at this location has two camps the first being located at the end of Kiln road at Waveland, and then the next road after ammo road at the Post Office. The second camp is located in the center of a rest station back from the Interstate. Inmates from the Hancock County jail claim they have worked details involving the delivery of food to these camps under the supervision of U.N. Guards. One individual claims that one of these camps is full of Europeans, Men, Women and children all within the same compound. He said that the U.N. Guards stationed there were severely beating the prisoners who appeared to be involved in forced labor. Though it is impossible to verify this information at this time I did hear a recorded interview with this inmate, and he sounded very sincere.

Nebraska:

*Scottsbluff* WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.

*Northwest corner of state * FEMA Detention facility

*Northeastcorner of state * FEMA Detention facility

*South Central Hastings area* FEMA Detention facility

Nevada:

*Elco * There is a prison facility 10 miles out of Elco.

*Wells * Camp is located in the O'Niel basin area, 40 miles North of Wells, and West off HWY 93, 25 miles.

*Winnemucca* Camp is located at the I-80 mile marker 112, on the south side of the road and 3/4 miles off of the road.

*Wells/Winnemucca* Camp is lcated near the base line of the mountains.

Reno Nevada PLUS 150 miles east south side of road if your headed west, 150 yards off the road.

New York:

*Ft. Drum* located in upstate New York, probable location for Eastern area processing of people, located near the St. Lawrence river and

access to Lake Ontario. Both waterways may be used for transport.

Located very close to Canada.

*Watertown* FEMA Detention facility

*Albany * FEMA Detention facility

*Buffalo * FEMA Detention facility

Ohio:

*Cleveland * FEMA Detention facility

*Columbus * FEMA Detention facility

*Cincinnati* FEMA Detention facility

*Lima * FEMA Detention facility

Oklahoma:

*Oklahoma City* Tinker AFB, This is a civilian detention facility, all base personnel are prohibited from going near the area, and the area is under constant guard.

*McAlester* WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated. *Will Rogers Air Port* This is a newly constructed FEMA facility, and it is believed that it will be used as a primary processing center for prisoners West of the Mississippi River.

Pennsylvania:

*Indiantown Gap Military Reservation* Located North of Harrisburg, Pa. Used for WWII POW camp and renovated by Pres. Jimmy Carter. Was used to hold Cubans during Mariel boat lift.

*Camp Hill* Camp Hill Pa located off I-15. Sits across the navigable Susquehanna River from Harrisburg. Close to Cumberland Army Depot

and the Camp Hill Correctional facility.

*Crossville* WWII German/Italian POW Camp being renovated.

Texas:

*Ft.Hood* Ft. Hood has a newly built concentration camp, constructed complete with towers, high fencing, and barbed wire.

*Mexia* WWII German/ Italian POW camp being renovated.

*Amarillo* FEMA Detention facility

Utah:

*Millard County* -Central Utah- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.

*Skull Valley* Camp William property - west of the old bombing range South/southwestern portion of Camp Williams This camp was discovered by a man and his son who were rabbit hunting, they were discovered and apprehended.

*Utah Lake* 15 miles south of Saratoga Recreation center 200 - 300 yards off the road Black wire 40 to 50 feet tall, made to look something like a golf driving range. *Cedar City* East of Cedar City Utah - no more data -Washington:

*Okanogan County* Borders Canada and is a site for a massive concentration camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of people who will be used for slave labor. This is probably one of the locations that will be used to hold hard core patriots who will be held captive for the rest of their lives.

Wisconsin:

*Ft.McCoy* Located in Western Wisconsin 30 miles East of LaCrosse between the point where 90 and 94 intersect. REX 84 program, Emergency Custodial Facility. *Central part of the state* FEMA Detention facility.

Wyoming:

*Park County* -Hart Mountain- Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facilities.

*North Central part of the state * FEMA Detention facility.

*Southeast part of the state * FEMA Detention facility.

Southwest part of the state * FEMA Detention facility East Yellowstone - Manned facility Investigators were apprehended by European soldiers , unable to identify the language used by the foreign soldiers, American government helped clear the situation."

[pedroh 21]

freakin american regime.. fascists and dictators.. tsk tsk

[sara..... 371]

hmmm i didnt see Oregon or Washington in that list i wonder if that means the people of our two states are not dangerous or we just are not important lol...........this has been on the net at least a few years i remember reading about it a few years ago and saw pics too

[Niels Bohr 72]

I believe this is all non-sense. These executives are potentially detrimental to law and order, but, how many of us who grew up in the US actually suffered from these executives orders. Sure, it's in place to make the government more powerful, but when was the last time did something ever happened that required such or ers? After Katrina, maybe. Well, what about other times? It's there, but, rarely used. The US Government is very good at dealing with people versus foreign governments.

[peejay 327]

freakin american regime.. fascists and dictators.. tsk tsk

I don't see you and your amigos escaping back to Mexico in droves. The Wall hasn't been finished yet. You better hurry though.

I believe this is all non-sense.

Exactly.

[Otto 83]

Distorted wishful thinking from the "Survivalist"/"Soldier of Fortune" crowd...

[britty 1]

Isn't this just a legal requirement in any case?

[IAMX 3,055]

If there's one thing people need to understand is indeed the government is constantly trying to do things like this. Alberto Gonzales was trying to take away Americans right of habeas corpus, himself, stating Americans have no right to it, as in, define someone as a terrorist, and you can throw them into internment camps indefinitely, without trial, or even extradite them elsewhere.

Now, I won't believe what the OP suggests with something more concrete, but people are going to have a rude awakening if they just think the U.S. government does things innocently. Operation Northwoods has shown the U.S. government has had the intent before to create/fabricate a terrorist attack upon Americans and American soil to justify an attack on other countries. 9/11 has shown the government will use the fear of terrorism to justify spying on American citizens, and justify removing their rights of protesting against the government or other things.

If there's one thing that's glaringly obvious is the federal government is trying to find reasons to squelch dissent and consolidate their own power, especially the Executive Branch. I guarantee Bush was scared and knew he had to do something when people protested during his own limo ride to his inauguration in January 2001. Displays of people protesting tends to give rise to others that something is amiss. Hence why, since then, protest/free speech cages have been tossed back into popularity. Government fears protest and dissent more than anything.

[alienlovechild 75]

As a former military, I or any of my buddies would never support a plan like this, we took an oath to defend America, not attack it, more than likely would be turning our weapons toward those that are attempting to enforce it/ But are we actually paying tax dollars for this? Have to congratulate my fellow Americans for really putting some nuts in the White House if this is true. Cannot deny they have already sold our country out to foreign nations, but not a damned thing is being done about it. Who exactly are the real traitors in this country?

Better refresh yourself on the oath of enlistment again for starters. It's scary to think you'd entertain this conspiracy stuff as true and Uncle Sam probably trained you to fire an M-16 at the very least. You and Tim McVeigh must have been battle buddies.

Ask yourself why all the scare talk pushed by people like yourself posting this stuff daily? More politics of fear to combat the politics of fear?

[IAMX 3,055]

As a former military, I or any of my buddies would never support a plan like this, we took an oath to defend America, not attack it, more than likely would be turning our weapons toward those that are attempting to enforce it/ But are we actually paying tax dollars for this? Have to congratulate my fellow Americans for really putting some nuts in the White House if this is true. Cannot deny they have already sold our country out to foreign nations, but not a damned thing is being done about it. Who exactly are the real traitors in this country?

Better refresh yourself on the oath of enlistment again for starters. It's scary to think you'd entertain this conspiracy stuff as true and Uncle Sam probably trained you to fire an M-16 at the very least. You and Tim McVeigh must have been battle buddies.

I praise him for his dissent, no matter how much I disagree with it. I just hope he thinks hard about this and just tones down the scared mentality, as it does indeed lead people to irrational behavior.

However, it's very clear your fawning and sycophantic attitude toward the U.S. government in these circumstances would make any logical person look down upon you and throw your freedom fries back in your face, with the ketchup. Conservatives love to talk about how much they support the troops. Of course, because they don't say the sh!t you like they're no better than McVeigh, right? Right. #######.

Edited October 11, 2008 by SRVT

[Niels Bohr 72]

Nobody is saying the US Government is innocent. The standard of living here is much fairer, if not, better than most countries. Nobody in the US here are one sided, honestly.

The US as it stands is much better off compared to other countries. Take for example, there's the Senate Ethics Commitee that monitors many wrongdoings of the Senate themselves. However, there are casualties. They are limited in number. So, it's not quite fair to say that the US isn't a good system to live in. I've been to China, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. I'd rather live in the US, trust me!

[jundp 191]

freakin american regime.. fascists and dictators.. tsk tsk

I don't see you and your amigos escaping back to Mexico in droves. The Wall hasn't been finished yet. You better hurry though.

Disgustingly uncalled for.

[alienlovechild 75]

However, it's very clear your fawning and sycophantic attitude toward the U.S. government in these circumstances would make any logical person look down upon you and throw your freedom fries back in your face, with the ketchup.

Ok, I'll call for all patriotic Americans to overthrow the U.S. government once Obama becomes president. Happy now?

Conservatives love to talk about how much they support the troops. Of course, because they don't say the sh!t you like they're no better than McVeigh, right? Right. #######.

All military vets must march in step or they are unpatriotic, huh? McVeigh had an same anti-government stand the OP's article feeds into. People who buy into the idea they will do their patriotic duty by blowing up government buildings to fight the power.

[IAMX 3,055]

Ok, I'll call for all patriotic Americans to overthrow the U.S. government once Obama becomes president. Happy now?

Which game for the PS3 are you emulating this overthrow on?

All military vets must march in step or they are unpatriotic, huh? McVeigh had an same anti-government stand the OP's article feeds into. People who buy into the idea they will do their patriotic duty by blowing up government buildings to fight the power.

Where did the poster advocate blowing up American buildings? Oh that's right. He didn't. What a stupid argument, which anyone can see is a McCarthy'ist style attack on people who criticize the American government. McCarthy would be proud, good sycophant. Would you like some freedom fries with that straw man?

[alienlovechild 75]

Where did the poster advocate blowing up American buildings? Oh that's right. He didn't. What a stupid argument, which anyone can see is a McCarthy'ist style attack on people who criticize the American government. McCarthy would be proud, good sycophant. Would you like some freedom fries with that straw man?

The article talks about the preparation for martial law and the people who don't like the idea will be sitting back and doing nothing? Not surprising since you yourself have been largely all talk about how you lost many important liberties in the last 8 years and didn't do anything but play a self-styled Paul Revere of the Internet. Any accomplishments yet of you or your political party of what 12 guys in San Francisco?