halal meat

[mohamed and trina 0]

let me start by saying i am having some problems.to some it will be easy to answer.and some others will be hard.i need to know your point of view vj.i would appreciate the help and also the comfort so dont think i am causing problems i just need advice.me and my fiance have been fighting several times about many subject in our life one main one now is about halal meat.when in egypt its so easy to find halal meat around the corner.here in usa i live in the country so to get it.it will take about 2 hours.or if i even order it from online it was so incredibility expensive.he is a muslim and only eats halal meat .i am a christian and we pray over our food everytime we eat.and we dont eat anything with blood.and my family dont eat so much pork .i have giving that up was so bad for me.so my problem is and please be honest with me.is it such a big sin to just eat meat and pray over it.whats the sin.i was just wondering do alot of muslims when they come to america end up eating usa meat that is not halal.will you be in hell or what.because how he acts it just wont happen.but every restraunt here no halal.go to wendys.no halal.go to arbys,or even hardees,mcdonalds,red lobster you get the point.how do they think its easy for us that eat usa meat non halal.cant u just pray over it like jews and christians do.dont tell me all muslims pay all that money and expenses just to eat halal.please help me i am going insane.i even asked him if my mom cooks for the holidays or even me you will refuse to eat.and he said yes he will refuse do any of you think that is so impolite or rude.just explain to me what to do in this situation.what if we had children and they see mommy eating diffrent food.i hope you all see where i am comming from.sorry to bother anyone with this .its america halal is not so easy to find unless u r in the big city like NY.why travel 2 hours when meat is in the store about 5 minutes.any suggestions with a stubborn man.thank you so much vj you are wonderful and so kind to help people throug this process and God bless all of you.

[mawilson 2,133]

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[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

let me start by saying i am having some problems.to some it will be easy to answer.and some others will be hard.i need to know your point of view vj.i would appreciate the help and also the comfort so dont think i am causing problems i just need advice.me and my fiance have been fighting several times about many subject in our life one main one now is about halal meat.when in egypt its so easy to find halal meat around the corner.here in usa i live in the country so to get it.it will take about 2 hours.or if i even order it from online it was so incredibility expensive.he is a muslim and only eats halal meat .i am a christian and we pray over our food everytime we eat.and we dont eat anything with blood.and my family dont eat so much pork .i have giving that up was so bad for me.so my problem is and please be honest with me.is it such a big sin to just eat meat and pray over it.whats the sin.i was just wondering do alot of muslims when they come to america end up eating usa meat that is not halal.will you be in hell or what.because how he acts it just wont happen.but every restraunt here no halal.go to wendys.no halal.go to arbys,or even hardees,mcdonalds,red lobster you get the point.how do they think its easy for us that eat usa meat non halal.cant u just pray over it like jews and christians do.dont tell me all muslims pay all that money and expenses just to eat halal.please help me i am going insane.i even asked him if my mom cooks for the holidays or even me you will refuse to eat.and he said yes he will refuse do any of you think that is so impolite or rude.just explain to me what to do in this situation.what if we had children and they see mommy eating diffrent food.i hope you all see where i am comming from.sorry to bother anyone with this .its america halal is not so easy to find unless u r in the big city like NY.why travel 2 hours when meat is in the store about 5 minutes.any suggestions with a stubborn man.thank you so much vj you are wonderful and so kind to help people throug this process and God bless all of you.

Couple of (random) thoughts:

1. No, refusing non-halal meat is not rude.

2. Are you American? You don't write like one.

3. Move to Detroit.

[Sprailenes 47]

I don't think he's being stubborn at all, those are his beliefs and you know that. He is passionate about those beliefs too. It is not rude for him to refuse the food that he doesn't believe in eating. In a way you are saying you're beliefs are more important than his, that its okay for you to pray over your food and do what you believe in doing. There are other meatless options at Wendy's, and all those places, instead of a burger he could have a salad if they don't offer the meat of his choice.

You're asking him to compromise his beliefs, that's wrong.

[catknit 144]

Well...that's all going to be up to him. Different muslims handle it different ways. My ex [who is muslim] would eat out anywhere but would not eat foods that had any pork or alcohol in the preparation. Whether or not the meat was slaughtered religiously [zahiba] wasn't an issue for him. At home most of the meat was purchased at a regular grocery and he rewashed it saying something over [not sure what - I'm thinking shahada but I could be wrong]. This worked for him. Others it may not work for...

But this whole thing is something you should really think about. Will you be living near a Muslim community? Are there halal restaurants near by that will satisfy your urge to go out every now and again? Is he expecting you to adhere to all the dietary restrictions, regardless of where you are? I know of one mixed couple where the husband allows his wife to eat anything she wants outside of their house - pork, alcohol, whatever. He just doesn't want it in their home. Do you go to friends and family for meals? Are you prepared to give that up if he has a staunch halal only food rule?

The kid thing is a completely separate kettle of fish - all I can say is talk talk talk - better to know what's coming down the road now...

ETA - Seriously AJ is right - Detroit/Dearborn or Paterson NJ - you'll be golden there

Edited October 10, 2008 by milo75

[sara..... 371]

there are a few ways to find hala meat.........we live on a small farm so is not a problem for us......but some people find a farmer that is willing to allow u to have animals there that u raise for hala meat another way is to find a slaughter house that kills correctly for hala meat.....either of these two way requires u to have a large freezer...while it does take more work to have hala meat in the usa it is possiable unless u would rather spend the extra bucks to purchase it already packaged.......for us we have to drive about 100 miles one way to find any kind of meat that is more than just a couple of packages here or there but i guess it all depends on how hard u want to work for it and how important it is to u.......when we dine out we can not expect to find hala meat not even in a place that may state it is there is nothing that can ensure it is really that..........good luck and i hope u find the solution that is best for u......

sara

[Jenn! 918]

I think you're looking at it the wrong way (that this is because he is stubborn). I don't think this is something you'll be able to convince him of, i.e. it's ok to not eat halal if it's too hard for you to get it. The way I see it, he pretty much has two options: be a vegetarian (he could eat fish as well); or you could relocate to a more urban area where halal meat is not so hard to come by.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

good you are having this talk now, ahmed said no prob, if it is avail that will be good but if not thats ok to, of course no pork at all EVER

[maritoni 3]

let me start by saying i am having some problems.to some it will be easy to answer.and some others will be hard.i need to know your point of view vj.i would appreciate the help and also the comfort so dont think i am causing problems i just need advice.me and my fiance have been fighting several times about many subject in our life one main one now is about halal meat.when in egypt its so easy to find halal meat around the corner.here in usa i live in the country so to get it.it will take about 2 hours.or if i even order it from online it was so incredibility expensive.he is a muslim and only eats halal meat .i am a christian and we pray over our food everytime we eat.and we dont eat anything with blood.and my family dont eat so much pork .i have giving that up was so bad for me.so my problem is and please be honest with me.is it such a big sin to just eat meat and pray over it.whats the sin.i was just wondering do alot of muslims when they come to america end up eating usa meat that is not halal.will you be in hell or what.because how he acts it just wont happen.but every restraunt here no halal.go to wendys.no halal.go to arbys,or even hardees,mcdonalds,red lobster you get the point.how do they think its easy for us that eat usa meat non halal.cant u just pray over it like jews and christians do.dont tell me all muslims pay all that money and expenses just to eat halal.please help me i am going insane.i even asked him if my mom cooks for the holidays or even me you will refuse to eat.and he said yes he will refuse do any of you think that is so impolite or rude.just explain to me what to do in this situation.what if we had children and they see mommy eating diffrent food.i hope you all see where i am comming from.sorry to bother anyone with this .its america halal is not so easy to find unless u r in the big city like NY.why travel 2 hours when meat is in the store about 5 minutes.any suggestions with a stubborn man.thank you so much vj you are wonderful and so kind to help people throug this process and God bless all of you.

Halal Meat as we know it these days, is a term used more often for commercial profits than religious observance. Those who call their meat Halal, are in some way insinuating that any other meat is not Halal, or specifically the meat in the general grocery stores is not Halal. They make more money on their products by selling it more expensive while deceiving the public Moslems into believing that their meat is the only Halal meat for the Muslims...and to think many Muslims will live in the middle of Christians and Jews and will be sharing their food for this reason...Your husband should believe that today all good food is made lawful for all of us.....

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Well...that's all going to be up to him. Different muslims handle it different ways. My ex [who is muslim] would eat out anywhere but would not eat foods that had any pork or alcohol in the preparation. Whether or not the meat was slaughtered religiously [zahiba] wasn't an issue for him. At home most of the meat was purchased at a regular grocery and he rewashed it saying something over [not sure what - I'm thinking shahada but I could be wrong]. This worked for him. Others it may not work for...

But this whole thing is something you should really think about. Will you be living near a Muslim community? Are there halal restaurants near by that will satisfy your urge to go out every now and again? Is he expecting you to adhere to all the dietary restrictions, regardless of where you are? I know of one mixed couple where the husband allows his wife to eat anything she wants outside of their house - pork, alcohol, whatever. He just doesn't want it in their home. Do you go to friends and family for meals? Are you prepared to give that up if he has a staunch halal only food rule?

The kid thing is a completely separate kettle of fish - all I can say is talk talk talk - better to know what's coming down the road now...

ETA - Seriously AJ is right - Detroit/Dearborn or Paterson NJ - you'll be golden there

Do you really need to bother with those specific cities?

It's quite easy to find in DC/Balto area--also, some branches of a fast-food chain Chicken Basket use halal meats, as do LOTS of desi restaurants.

Also for the OP--the commentators who ask "can't you pray over it like Jews or Christians do..." is definitely ignorant of Jews (I have specifically observed that Orthodox Jews and Adventists will NOT simply pray over dubious meat, but will go out of the way to ensure it's kosher) and likely ignorant of Christians as well.

[Amby 490]

just find someone who can halal some animal and then just do it on the sidewalk outside your house. no one will care.

Edited October 10, 2008 by Amby

[JelloShotGirl 0]

I don't know where you live but you might want to ask ur honey if he will eat kosher meat/foods. Observant Jews eat this food. I think it is similar to halal. The brand is empire(for the chicken) maybe kosher food is more readily available where u are, i dont know. The animal needs to be slaughtered a certain way and all the blood needs to be removed from it. Also I think it is a little bit more salty(especially the chicken) its the way it is prepared. I know the food thing is challenging , maybe u can ask ur mom not to make pork if she plans to on the holidays lol! ask him if he eats fish , I dont think that has to be prepared a certain way, especially if it is a salt water fish; I am just going by what I know about kosher food. My husband loves pork and i really never ate it till we got married LOL! but you know i try not to eat too much, it is not good for my digestion. Maybe you all should eat more fruits veggies and compromise. Good luck!

[sereia 0]

Also for the OP--the commentators who ask "can't you pray over it like Jews or Christians do..." is definitely ignorant of Jews (I have specifically observed that Orthodox Jews and Adventists will NOT simply pray over dubious meat, but will go out of the way to ensure it's kosher) and likely ignorant of Christians as well.

From what I know, Jews who keep kosher definitely don't just "pray over it" and eat it anyway. I've never met or heard of one anyway! I do know of quite a few Muslims here in the US who do this practice.

I don't think you should demand he not eat halal if that is his choice. It is HIS choice, not yours. You chose to marry a Muslim, did you not think about these things before you decided to get serious with him?

ask him if he eats fish , I dont think that has to be prepared a certain way, especially if it is a salt water fish; I am just going by what I know about kosher food.

Jews can only eat fish with fins and scales, and not shellfish. Muslims can eat all seafood! Hope the OP's husband is a seafood lover!

Edited October 10, 2008 by sereia

[Donna A 4]

my husband is muslim and does not halal. some people are more religious them some i guess. i think when he gets here he will probably go to the mosque where he can ask them where to go for meat. also maybe they can all get together and take turns going for the meat 2 hours away. stock up and freeze it for a month and u will only have to make the trip once a month.

if u want to eat pork, do it when he is working or when u out alone.

dont stress on this, there are ways around things.

as for the holidays, u can supply the meat for your mom to cook. its not going to hurt a christian to eat halal for the holidays (or any time for that matter).

good luck.

[Hanna&Mohamed 0]

My husband when he first came was determined he was not going to eat any meat but halal meat. The first 2 weeks he wouldnt eat anything but fish when we went out. Then he talked to the Imam and he told him if there is no halal food around then you can eat it any meat except pork of course and say bismallah .Alot of resturants dont have halal foods. We still go to buy halal food also which is close to us.

I wish u the best of luck.Hes welcome to talk to my husband . Take care!