Presidential Debate round 2

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

i admit i haven't read this thread, i'm just watching the debate online now. does anyone else get really irritated when they hear things like this?

mccain: "America is the greatest force for good in the history of the world. My friends, we have gone to all four corners of the Earth and shed American blood in defense, usually, of somebody else's freedom and our own."

i'm failing to see what's so irritating about it.

I think what he means is that it can be insulting... a suggestion that if you question your government or don't support them 100% you aren't being patriotic (e.g. Bush's "if you aren't with me you are against me" statement). Many republicans wrongly associate supporting the Iraq war with patriotism & personally I find that to be offensive & insulting to my intelligence.

I have 21 years of service in the Army & served in Bosnia and Iraq, so I think I have a pretty good idea what patriotism means. You can support our troops, love our country AND disagree with our government all at the same time.

nowhere near it.

what i have issue with is this:

"we have gone to all four corners of the Earth and shed American blood in defense, usually, of somebody else's freedom and our own."

i don't see what the problem is with that statement. it's quite true imo.

Charles there's nothing wrong with being patriotic and loving ourcountry... it is the best in the world. However the McCain campaign trys to make it appear like he's more patriotic than Obama... by extension the republicans have done this too. Again I find some of his comments to be insulting to my intelligence & inappropriate... because McCain is a vet and a former POW he should know better than to use patriotism as a gimmick. It plays like that movie "America's Team World Police" but without the humor.

McCain does the same thing when he says our workforce is the best in the world... instead of trying to actually fix the problem he's trying to play on people's emotions. People want solutions, not some contrived BS about mom, apple pie & Chevrolet.

i fail to see how that's related to my reply. if you want a soapbox, feel free.

It completely relates... you take the quote at face value & after hearing McCain and Palin speak numerous times I know what he's really trying to do. There's nothing wrong with the statement at face value, I just see the bigger picture that's all.

enjoy that carpal tunnel syndrome from patting yourself on the back.

[nowhereman 1]

i admit i haven't read this thread, i'm just watching the debate online now. does anyone else get really irritated when they hear things like this?

mccain: "America is the greatest force for good in the history of the world. My friends, we have gone to all four corners of the Earth and shed American blood in defense, usually, of somebody else's freedom and our own."

i'm failing to see what's so irritating about it.

I think what he means is that it can be insulting... a suggestion that if you question your government or don't support them 100% you aren't being patriotic (e.g. Bush's "if you aren't with me you are against me" statement). Many republicans wrongly associate supporting the Iraq war with patriotism & personally I find that to be offensive & insulting to my intelligence.

I have 21 years of service in the Army & served in Bosnia and Iraq, so I think I have a pretty good idea what patriotism means. You can support our troops, love our country AND disagree with our government all at the same time.

nowhere near it.

what i have issue with is this:

"we have gone to all four corners of the Earth and shed American blood in defense, usually, of somebody else's freedom and our own."

i don't see what the problem is with that statement. it's quite true imo.

Charles there's nothing wrong with being patriotic and loving ourcountry... it is the best in the world. However the McCain campaign trys to make it appear like he's more patriotic than Obama... by extension the republicans have done this too. Again I find some of his comments to be insulting to my intelligence & inappropriate... because McCain is a vet and a former POW he should know better than to use patriotism as a gimmick. It plays like that movie "America's Team World Police" but without the humor.

McCain does the same thing when he says our workforce is the best in the world... instead of trying to actually fix the problem he's trying to play on people's emotions. People want solutions, not some contrived BS about mom, apple pie & Chevrolet.

i fail to see how that's related to my reply. if you want a soapbox, feel free.

It completely relates... you take the quote at face value & after hearing McCain and Palin speak numerous times I know what he's really trying to do. There's nothing wrong with the statement at face value, I just see the bigger picture that's all.

enjoy that carpal tunnel syndrome from patting yourself on the back.

It really isn't about me... but if you want to go around with blinders on that's your choice.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

It really isn't about me... but if you want to go around with blinders on that's your choice.

Blinders? The only eye your seein out of is busy taking a shite!

[jundp 191]

Blinders? The only eye your seein out of is busy taking a shite!

Um. Marc? Do you normally sh!t from your eyes?!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Blinders? The only eye your seein out of is busy taking a shite!

Um. Marc? Do you normally sh!t from your eyes?!

Ummmmm No! But I sh!t on little penguins like you!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Little fkin porch squatter!

[jundp 191]

Little fkin porch squatter!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Little fkin porch squatter!

Post monkey without an argument, except a little weak minded pic of someone that resembles a follower! I got a flute! come follow me.

[Ling Ling 22]

i admit i haven't read this thread, i'm just watching the debate online now. does anyone else get really irritated when they hear things like this?

mccain: "America is the greatest force for good in the history of the world. My friends, we have gone to all four corners of the Earth and shed American blood in defense, usually, of somebody else's freedom and our own."

i'm failing to see what's so irritating about it.

The Earth is round. There are no corners.

THERE he's showing his age.

Next monday is a special day for McCain...he get's to celebrate another guy he didn't agree with, but reached across to table to, his friend, Columbus.

[nowhereman 1]

Blinders? The only eye your seein out of is busy taking a shite!

Um. Marc? Do you normally sh!t from your eyes?!

Ummmmm No! But I sh!t on little penguins like you!

Little fkin porch squatter!

Post monkey without an argument, except a little weak minded pic of someone that resembles a follower! I got a flute! come follow me.

Yea your post was really insightful and intelligent