Man shot three times in street by racist gunman - for wearing Barack Obama T-shirt

[HAL 9000 96]

Well discuss them and get over it.

MAVI! Howz you? B)

Doin fine... sad for a neighbor that got raped and robbed last night by the building.

Hopin the cops catch the bassstard soon.

Someone from your apt building??? I'm trying to figure how close it happened to friends of ours who are also in that neighborhood....very close in fact to Obama's home.

3 blocks away from Obama's house. The police response was blindingly rapid. There even was a Secret Service agent that came over. Yeah... the poor girl is in my building.

I hope he got caught on video since we have plenty of cameras on the first floor around the building. Son of a b!tch.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, I always love the 'thankfully I am not you' post. That's a prize.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well discuss them and get over it.

MAVI! Howz you? B)

Doin fine... sad for a neighbor that got raped and robbed last night by the building.

Hopin the cops catch the bassstard soon.

Someone from your apt building??? I'm trying to figure how close it happened to friends of ours who are also in that neighborhood....very close in fact to Obama's home.

3 blocks away from Obama's house. The police response was blindingly rapid. There even was a Secret Service agent that came over. Yeah... the poor girl is in my building.

I hope he got caught on video since we have plenty of cameras on the first floor around the building. Son of a b!tch.

Sheesh - that's harsh.

[Sister Fracas 5]

3 blocks away from Obama's house. The police response was blindingly rapid. There even was a Secret Service agent that came over. Yeah... the poor girl is in my building.

I hope he got caught on video since we have plenty of cameras on the first floor around the building. Son of a b!tch.

Hope he gets caught.

[natty bumppo 297]

It takes time to read (some of us actually have jobs ... with requirements to perform work away from the PC and interact with others within/ outside the organization). You've obviously had prior time to read and digest the data. The links were just posted what ... a little over an hour ago? Geez ... quit getting your panties into a twist ... we all can't be like you.

If you were - you might have actually taken it upon yourself to look for supporting/conflicting data to make an argument. The absence of an original link doesn't preclude you from doing that.

The *some of us have jobs* line. Always a classic. Yet here you are... I expect a neener-neener response of some kind will be forthcoming.

thankfully ... I'm not you

you failed to provide a link to support the "claimed" facts you posted when requested ... and to give credit to the source you used.

so your premise of "wanting to discuss" and now "make an argument" ... well ... was not taken seriously.

"Chose not to" would be nearer the mark.

I did it to mess with you.

so .. does this mean you're buying the first round at the pub (on this side of the pond ... it's not safe in Scotland)

[HAL 9000 96]

Well I've done pub crawls in Glasgow and Edinburgh. No fights to report 'sadly.'

[Peikko 1,575]

Did you meet any 'Rab.C Nesbitt's?' in Glasgee?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Did you meet any 'Rab.C Nesbitt's?' in Glasgee?

That was a great show.

[Peikko 1,575]

Indeed it was, I must put it on my Christmas shopping list too, I keep threatening hubby with it - "you must watch this" style!

[HAL 9000 96]

Nay... but I do see the type lounging about here on VJ every now and then.

[mawilson 2,133]

The UK is small, violent crime is relatively rare - all the statistics prove that.

Compared to the US though?

The UK numbers make Washington, D.C. look good.

On the east side of the Atlantic, we have the British Home Office and the British Crime

Survey for 2005/2006. If we look at the tables supporting Chapter 5, on Violent Crime,

(this is an Excel Workbook) we are told that there was a total of 2,420,000 violent crimes

in the time-frame covered by the report. If we take the word of the CIA Factbook, the UK

had a population of 60,609,153 (July 2006 est.) This gives a rate of violent crime per

100,000 inhabitants as 3992.8. However in Chapter 7 (Table 7a) of the BCS, the total

violent crime rate per 1000 inhabitants is listed as 23, which is equivalent to 2,300

per 100,000 inhabitants. Even this lower number is an astonishing figure when

compared to the US data.

On the west side of the Atlantic we have the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the

Uniform Crime Report for 2005. (2005 is the last year for which the data are not

preliminary.) In table 1, we see that in 2005, the violent crime rate per 100,000

inhabitants was 469.2.

Some of the state-by-state numbers:

State: Violent Crime Rate per 100,000 / Murder rate per 100,000

South Dakota: 175.7 / 2.3

California: 526.3 / 6.9

New York: 445.8 / 4.5

Massachusetts: 456.9 / 2.7

Wisconsin: 241.5 / 3.5

Illinois: 551 / 6.0

District of Columbia: 1459.0 35.4

Crime in the UK versus Crime in the US

[Heracles 417]

The UK is small, violent crime is relatively rare - all the statistics prove that.

Compared to the US though?

The UK numbers make Washington, D.C. look good.

They only logical answer is that they do not report all crimes here. There is no way the UK or London is more dangerous than inner city DC..

There are probably more ghettos and hoods in the US than residents in the UK...

[Amby 490]

DC scares me

[Heracles 417]

DC scares me

Lets not even mention Prince Georges county..

[Amby 490]

DC scares me

Lets not even mention Prince Georges county..

I won't go to DC unless I have you as my protection