White Privilege, White Entitlement and the 2008 Election

[akdiver 3]

I guess that covers the "reverse racism" item on the checklist doesn't it?

There is no such thing as "reverse" racism. Either something is racist, or it's not.

[HAL 9000 96]

it's know to go from point a to point b by a most convoluted route

Who said Reality was a straight line?

[HAL 9000 96]

Sure, if that "Black Privilege" meant continuing the historical pattern of maintaining long-established racial and economical disparities. I don't know about being accused of the above examples you state but I do know that many are often unrepresentative of what this 'privilege' really stands for- equalizing conditions

If anyone believes a Pres. Obama will do anything to change realities for most black Americans, please stand and be counted.

His background has little to do with the historic experience for most black Americans. The fact he and his wife went to Ivy League colleges doesn't translate into it suddenly being cool for black kids to exceed in academics.

The reality is the black middle class was able to take advantage of a more racially tolerate country where civl rights laws were enforced. The black economic underclass (or any other underclass) invokes the privilege of doing little for themselves besides dropping out of school and blaming the majority for their fate. How exactly can this country change things for people who gave up on the system at age 16 or 17 and expect things to turn around?

Here's a novel thought-

He can certainly try to increase opportunities for ALL that actually need them instead of continuing the pattern of disparities that we already know exist. Sure it would be hard. I mean, we have people in this very thread that make mockery of it or worse- deny there is a disparity.

I guess that covers the "reverse racism" item on the checklist doesn't it?

There is no such thing as "reverse" racism. Either something is racist, or it's not.

To the eye of the beholder, it is. There is also something known as denial. No matter how much we try to sugarcoat reality- it still is reality. History has us where we are today, and claiming something is racist because it strives to level the playing field is not really addressing the reality part of things.

[Ban Hammer 13,624]

I guess that covers the "reverse racism" item on the checklist doesn't it?

There is no such thing as "reverse" racism. Either something is racist, or it's not.

just ask reggie

it's know to go from point a to point b by a most convoluted route

Who said Reality was a straight line?

to most people it is

[HAL 9000 96]

Racism against innocent whites as a means to preclude actually addressing reality. Check.

to most people it is

yeah. And the Earth was flat to most people too.

Edited October 7, 2008 by maviwaro

[Ban Hammer 13,624]

Racism against innocent whites as a means to preclude actually addressing reality. Check.

to most people it is

yeah. And the Earth was flat to most people too.

have fun proving that one.

[mawilson 2,133]

Sure, if that "Black Privilege" meant continuing the historical pattern of maintaining long-established racial and economical disparities. I don't know about being accused of the above examples you state but I do know that many are often unrepresentative of what this 'privilege' really stands for- equalizing conditions.

The realities of the world are what they are. There are many disparities in many parts of the world,

and if someone happens to be less fortunate, they're just gonna have to work harder to get where they

want to go.

[HAL 9000 96]

Racism against innocent whites as a means to preclude actually addressing reality. Check.

to most people it is

yeah. And the Earth was flat to most people too.

have fun proving that one.

Have proof otherwise?

There are plenty of anecdotes, stories, and even science from antiquity that say so.

[Ban Hammer 13,624]

Racism against innocent whites as a means to preclude actually addressing reality. Check.

to most people it is

yeah. And the Earth was flat to most people too.

have fun proving that one.

Have proof otherwise?

There are plenty of anecdotes, stories, and even science from antiquity that say so.

that reality isn't a straight line, as you earlier alleged? gimme some links, i'm bored.

[HAL 9000 96]

Sure, if that "Black Privilege" meant continuing the historical pattern of maintaining long-established racial and economical disparities. I don't know about being accused of the above examples you state but I do know that many are often unrepresentative of what this 'privilege' really stands for- equalizing conditions.

The realities of the world are what they are. There are many disparities in many parts of the world,

and if someone happens to be less fortunate, they're just gonna have to work harder to get where they

want to go.

Well, this particular reality deals with the United States of America.

The work hard mantra is a standard excuse that fails to address the issue but so be it, and even more- fails to be proven true when so many try it and fail in succeeding. The concept itself is excellent, just not its use as an excuse to avoid fixing the problem.

[HAL 9000 96]

Racism against innocent whites as a means to preclude actually addressing reality. Check.

to most people it is

yeah. And the Earth was flat to most people too.

have fun proving that one.

Have proof otherwise?

There are plenty of anecdotes, stories, and even science from antiquity that say so.

that reality isn't a straight line, as you earlier alleged? gimme some links, i'm bored.

Time is more likely a straight line. What we do during its progression is another matter.

I guess you can google up articles on how each particular generation redefines history in different ways. Some members every time around will mutate the past using relativistic concepts of what was "acceptable then, understandable now" while others use a more universal approach that "what is wrong is wrong" while yet others deny the content of the past altogether out of ignorance or worse- insensitivity to reality.

[alienlovechild 75]

Here's a novel thought-

He can certainly try to increase opportunities for ALL that actually need them instead of continuing the pattern of disparities that we already know exist. Sure it would be hard. I mean, we have people in this very thread that make mockery of it or worse- deny there is a disparity.

There's nothing novel about that thought unless you've never heard of Karl Marx before. The idea the government can change much beyond stopping blatant civil right violations is overly optimistic. You can dole out the money but it's not going to much to change the culture of poverty. Obama's tax increases will probably lead to a more severe recession dooming poor people to greater dependency on the government.

By "He" I assume you mean Obama. Somehow Obama sitting on his butt in the White House is going to CHANGE everything and give HOPE to all of the folks in the underclass. Another campaign slogan to mask the fact Obama won't be agent for change much besides a symbol at most. The government coffers aren't exactly overflowing at this time to pay for all of Obama's election promises.

Edited October 7, 2008 by alienlovechild

[rocks 494]

wow. interesting article. i agree with it.

[HAL 9000 96]

Here's a novel thought-

He can certainly try to increase opportunities for ALL that actually need them instead of continuing the pattern of disparities that we already know exist. Sure it would be hard. I mean, we have people in this very thread that make mockery of it or worse- deny there is a disparity.

There's nothing novel about that thought unless you've never heard of Karl Marx before. The idea the government can change much beyond stopping blatant civil right violations is overly optimistic. You can dole out the money but it's not going to much to change the culture of poverty. Obama's tax increases will probably lead to a more severe recession dooming poor people to greater dependency on the government.

By "He" I assume you mean Obama. Somehow Obama sitting on his butt in the White House is going to CHANGE everything and give HOPE to all of the folks in the underclass. Another campaign slogan to mask the fact Obama won't be agent for change much beides a symbol at most. The government coffers aren't exactly overflowing at this time to pay for all of Obama's election promises.

I guess you should go back and read up about what US Presidents do in office.

And of course, you also need to show where the culture of poverty will be perpetuated by nonexistent tax increases.

Of course, campaign promises are what they are. Delivering political promises tend to depend not just on economics, but on how much political opposition stands in the way of fulfillment.

[Amby 490]

this article reminds me of someone I know