What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Here VW, you may read away:

http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

And that's being nice, given it's already apparent that because Obama doesn't follow your issues he's automatically disqualified. Great attempt though to sound like you really give two sh!ts. We all know you're a pug dog kissing at Republican feet. This sort of attachment to political parties is rather pathetic.

No more websites, thank you! I want to hear original thoughts and coherent articulations about their love for Obama from those here who are so utterly expressive re their hate for Sarah. Passion for a cause is not how well someone else says what you mean.

Yes. Original thoughts please.

[IAMX 3,055]

Uh, hate to break it to you, but some of the haters-of-Sarah aren't Democrats or Obama supporters. The only thing you're proving here is you need to justify your own vote by bashing Obama voters. You're being no different than what you criticize. But good luck in that getting through to you.

Actually, what I'm proving is that some of you are better at hating someone than you are at explaining why you like someone. Obama is not looking good here so far, and that's not my fault.

Obama is not looking good to YOU.

It's clear most people vote for him because of his views and history of not following Bush. It's clear they vote for him because he represents inclusiveness in voters, unlike Bush who is extremely divisive and his party is involved in trying to wipe voters off the ballot. His foreign policy makes more sense than Bush's, from a logical standpoint of TALKING to people before starting the coarse rhetoric and actions (Russia, Pakistan, Venezuela) that pin countries against us before we even have a chance at dialog. So the "change" mantra comes from this, and this is just a couple issues of many.

However, most will see it as a lost cause that you're really interested in hearing this, and they're right, so they stay away from this topic. It's clear your objectivity rating is pretty much zero.

I should have started the topic.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Here VW, you may read away:

http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

And that's being nice, given it's already apparent that because Obama doesn't follow your issues he's automatically disqualified. Great attempt though to sound like you really give two sh!ts. We all know you're a pug dog kissing at Republican feet. This sort of attachment to political parties is rather pathetic.

No more websites, thank you! I want to hear original thoughts and coherent articulations about their love for Obama from those here who are so utterly expressive re their hate for Sarah. Passion for a cause is not how well someone else says what you mean.

You won't get anything original. It has to be from the candidates own website. They think he never lies and will honor any promises he made while campaigning. Sheep are like that.

[baxxy 0]

Absolutely nothing.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Uh, hate to break it to you, but some of the haters-of-Sarah aren't Democrats or Obama supporters. The only thing you're proving here is you need to justify your own vote by bashing Obama voters. You're being no different than what you criticize. But good luck in that getting through to you.

Actually, what I'm proving is that some of you are better at hating someone than you are at explaining why you like someone. Obama is not looking good here so far, and that's not my fault.

Obama is not looking good to YOU.

It's clear most people vote for him because of his views and history of not following Bush. It's clear they vote for him because he represents inclusiveness in voters, unlike Bush who is extremely divisive and his party is involved in trying to wipe voters off the ballot. His foreign policy makes more sense than Bush's, from a logical standpoint of TALKING to people before starting the coarse rhetoric and actions (Russia, Pakistan, Venezuela) that pin countries against us before we even have a chance at dialog. So the "change" mantra comes from this, and this is just a couple issues of many.

However, most will see it as a lost cause that you're really interested in hearing this, and they're right, so they stay away from this topic. It's clear your objectivity rating is pretty much zero.

I should have started the topic.

You're not even voting for Obama. How interesting that you are more passionate about him than those who intend to vote for him!

I'm not the only one reading this thread, so if cowardice is keeping Obamacans away, that just goes farther in proving my point that they are not the brightest bulbs in the box. Their objectivity rating is lower than 0, but I still have the guts to face them on other threads. They could show me the same courtesy. But PM groupthink has set in, it seems. When they do show up, it will be with curses and insults, for that seems to be what they know how to do.

Obama is looking bad on this thread because of the derth of support from this followers, not because I don't support him. Considering how mindless one has to be to constantly ridicule Sarah Palin on thread after thread, it is telling that they are so silent when offered the opportunity to sell their Messiah in a thread made especially for that purpose.

Edited October 5, 2008 by Virtual wife

[nowhereman 1]

Uh, hate to break it to you, but some of the haters-of-Sarah aren't Democrats or Obama supporters. The only thing you're proving here is you need to justify your own vote by bashing Obama voters. You're being no different than what you criticize. But good luck in that getting through to you.

Actually, what I'm proving is that some of you are better at hating someone than you are at explaining why you like someone. Obama is not looking good here so far, and that's not my fault.

Classic.... you have shown nothing but contempt for the "dimocrats" and Obama but accuse others of being "better at hating someone than you are at explaining why you like someone". That has to be one of the most hypocritical statements I've seen on this forum (and there are many to choose from). Just

You also completely ignored my post about why many people aren't voting for McCain. He is a shell of his former "maverick" self & many people are turned off by his negative, sleazy & dishonest campaign. Others also disagree with his economic policies & his insistence on carrying on the failed Bush doctrine. For me it's a combination of all three, but mostly because of the trashy campaign McCain has run.

So you want to know what qualifies Obama for being President? How about promoting policies that someone generally agrees with? Like I said before experience is generally an asset, but experience in being wrong not so much.

[natty bumppo 297]

I can see the TOS complaints being mailed now ....

*start whine*

"Mods ... VW is baiting me and violating TOS. She wants to know why Obama is so well qualified for pres ... "

*end whine*

[Peikko 1,575]

Yes VW, that's it, everyone is afraid of you, and your indefatigable ability to 'take on' the opposition. What hilarious material you provide, hours of fun.

[IAMX 3,055]

Uh, hate to break it to you, but some of the haters-of-Sarah aren't Democrats or Obama supporters. The only thing you're proving here is you need to justify your own vote by bashing Obama voters. You're being no different than what you criticize. But good luck in that getting through to you.

Actually, what I'm proving is that some of you are better at hating someone than you are at explaining why you like someone. Obama is not looking good here so far, and that's not my fault.

Obama is not looking good to YOU.

It's clear most people vote for him because of his views and history of not following Bush. It's clear they vote for him because he represents inclusiveness in voters, unlike Bush who is extremely divisive and his party is involved in trying to wipe voters off the ballot. His foreign policy makes more sense than Bush's, from a logical standpoint of TALKING to people before starting the coarse rhetoric and actions (Russia, Pakistan, Venezuela) that pin countries against us before we even have a chance at dialog. So the "change" mantra comes from this, and this is just a couple issues of many.

However, most will see it as a lost cause that you're really interested in hearing this, and they're right, so they stay away from this topic. It's clear your objectivity rating is pretty much zero.

I should have started the topic.

You're not even voting for Obama. How interesting that you are more passionate about him than those who intend to vote for him!

I'm not the only one reading this thread, so if cowardice is keeping Obamacans away, that just goes farther in proving my point that they are not the brightest bulbs in the box. Their objectivity rating is lower than 0, but I still have the guts to face them on other threads. They could show me the same courtesy. But PM groupthink has set in, it seems. When they do show up, it will be with curses and insults, for that seems to be what they know how to do.

Obama is looking bad on this thread because of the derth of support from this followers, not because I don't support him. Considering how mindless one has to be to constantly ridicule Sarah Palin on thread after thread, it is telling that they are so silent when offered the opportunity to sell their Messiah in a thread made especially for that purpose.

You just described how it is for both parties. Your ire should be, like mine, against both parties.

But it's not. You're clearly Republican, have a clear Republican slant, and I even see you whining about the poor white people in other topics, along with Aficionado. So this lack of sincerity I have toward you has quite a bit of merit, as you try to make yourself come off as logical and unbiased, but clearly aren't questioning your own values.

What justifications do you have for Republicans being in the back pockets of political interests as much as Democrats -- overlooking small business owners who gross under 250K or your average low and middle class Joe? Or justifications for them taking away civil liberties along side Democrats? You think Republicans are any different? Yeah, only in philosophy and in debates, but as soon as they step on Capitol Hill they are friends with similar interests. Also, how do Republicans plan on ever balancing the budget while they spend more and don't raise taxes? I'd love to see Sarah Palin, with a decisive tie breaking vote in the Senate, vote against giving exorbitant amounts of money to Israel with nothing in return except spying on us and data mining our calls. What are the chances of that? Here's your pork spending challenge. She would FAIL. Guaranteed.

There are plenty of issues you need to start addressing too. Bashing Obama, Biden, everyone Obama's been hanging out with and their lifetime history, is really no justification for your own vote, given you're calling people out to justify theirs.

Edited October 5, 2008 by SRVT

[spookyturtle 9,466]

A serious discussion about presidential qualifications would be to first find a consensus of what those qualifications are and then use that in the context of past presidential candidates to see where the current candidates stand. When you do that, VW, you'll see how painfully obvious that your attempt at disqualifying Obama as not presidential material is ridiculous. You don't like Obama because of the policies and ideas he stands behind...it's that simple. You continue to sidestep that argument because you know that on the issues, at least this time around, the Democratic Party's platform and the Democratic ticket of Obama/Biden is in step with what the American people want. They want universal healthcare. They want us out of Iraq. They want us to address Global Warming...etc, etc. This particular presidential race isn't going to be won or lost on personality or qualifications, it's going to be won or lost on which ticket offers the American people the best ideas to move forward. The old partisan, rhetoric of liberal vs. conservative just doesn't apply...particularly in light of the recent bipartisan bailout. We're beyond being stuck on ideological arguments...this is about ideas.

Word.

Sheep.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Here VW, you may read away:

http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

And that's being nice, given it's already apparent that because Obama doesn't follow your issues he's automatically disqualified. Great attempt though to sound like you really give two sh!ts. We all know you're a pug dog kissing at Republican feet. This sort of attachment to political parties is rather pathetic.

So your're on the Obama bandwagon now?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I asked about Obama's record and what his major acomplishments were a while back and all the sheep told me to go look it up myself. Not one example was given. So I went and looked. He is trying to get Rosa Parks on a postage stamp. Is that considered Presidential material? Biden is much more qualified to be President than Obama. The Dems got the ticket backwards. The media didn't like Hillary, so Obama got all the favorable press. His whole campaign is a verbal promise with no track record of showing the ability to get the job done. He talks, the sheep follow. I have some good ideas too, think anyone will vote for me??

[IAMX 3,055]

Here VW, you may read away:

http://www.barackobama.com/learn/meet_barack.php

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

And that's being nice, given it's already apparent that because Obama doesn't follow your issues he's automatically disqualified. Great attempt though to sound like you really give two sh!ts. We all know you're a pug dog kissing at Republican feet. This sort of attachment to political parties is rather pathetic.

So your're on the Obama bandwagon now?

Yes. I'm also voting for McCain *points at the "justify McCain/Palin" topic*.

Unlike you peons I get as many votes as I want.

[jundp 191]

I don't believe that humans either create or can control global warming because geological history is a hobby of mine, so I'm aware of massive catastrophies over time that did little to destroy the planet. Some may have the ego or the stupidity to believe that we will be the saviors of the earth, but I'm not among them.

I find it interesting that one would think a person either egotistical or stupid to believe that we, as humans, do have the power to change or prevent catastrophe brought upon this earth by over-consumption and human error. While I respect those who are of the opinion that global warming isn't man-made (or at least partially caused by humans), and I applaud your geological historical hobby, I do believe we humans have contributed to the environmental problems of our contemporary world.

I also tend to listen more to my father-in-law, the physicist, and his colleagues, who have spent their lives actively working on this issue, rather than someone whose "hobby" is geological history. Of course, I suppose he's just a crazy liberal (which he is, in fact, not).

And, just to be a smart ###, the qualifications to be president of the US are: natural born US Citizen, 35 years of age, residing in the US for at least 14 years prior to election. Those are the qualifications as stated by our constitution. But I don't think you're asking "qualifications" in that sense, so perhaps you should clarify what you mean? You're asking for something in particular, but hedging the issue, apparently. Why don't you just spell it out?

Edited October 5, 2008 by jundp

[jundp 191]

I asked about Obama's record and what his major acomplishments were a while back and all the sheep told me to go look it up myself. Not one example was given. So I went and looked. He is trying to get Rosa Parks on a postage stamp. Is that considered Presidential material? Biden is much more qualified to be President than Obama. The Dems got the ticket backwards. The media didn't like Hillary, so Obama got all the favorable press. His whole campaign is a verbal promise with no track record of showing the ability to get the job done. He talks, the sheep follow. I have some good ideas too, think anyone will vote for me??

I also love the constant #######-talk by conservatives here on VJ. If I prefer Obama over McCain, I'm a "sheep"? That's so childish. To assume a person is blindly following simply because you don't happen to like their candidate of choice is just ridiculous. It's like throwing sand in a sandbox.

Some people on here are a hoot, that's for sure