What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?

[Heracles 417]

Rubbish. She started a legitimate thread and the usual dumb asses turned this into a stereotypical OT VJ bash the conservative thread.

You see it as legitimate. But you don't see the background here.

Why does VW expect from others what she will not provide herself?

Yes, while controversial she asked a legitimate question. But we know how well any discussion against the OT norm, against the grain, end up here. Where the OP has to basically defend their views and opinions from the mob here.

I would like to join the mob, the group. I am sure someone has asked VW for some sort of proof or evidence. Or are we using tactic B of just discredit and insult her personally..

[Marilyn. 340]

I will say it again...

I'm not voting for McCain because his old ### is going to die and then we will be stuck with Palin's dumb ###

Now here is an example of a "legitimate" opinion / post. Where one states their actual opinion, rather than an "OMG the OP is dumb"..

if you have read this whole thread quite a few people have stated why they are voting for Obama.. but they are promptly dismissed as not up to par...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Rubbish. She started a legitimate thread and the usual dumb asses turned this into a stereotypical OT VJ bash the conservative thread.

You see it as legitimate. But you don't see the background here.

Why does VW expect from others what she will not provide herself?

Yes, while controversial she asked a legitimate question. But we know how well any discussion against the OT norm, against the grain, end up here. Where the OP has to basically defend their views and opinions from the mob here.

I would like to join the mob, the group. I am sure someone has asked VW for some sort of proof or evidence. Or are we using tactic B of just discredit and insult her personally..

Others have asked legitimate questions of her - only to have them ridiculed or thrown back in their face.

So...

[Heracles 417]

It is seriously quite funny when someone starts a thread or posts a view which goes against the grain of OT VJ, only to receive personal attacks and insults from those with opposing views. On top of that these very same people turn around and claim the OP was never interested in a legitimate debate or discussion.

EG:

"I believe the lack of success by certain cultures in America has a lot to do with their negative attitude"

Stereotypical OT VJ response: "Shut up you racist fool". "You don't know anything" " bla bla bla"

A few posts later, the second poster and so forth are accusing the OP of refusing to participate in a "legitimate debate or discussion".

That's a nice softening of your views Boo-Yah, but it isn't really accurate of how these things go down is it.

As for the bolded part - she has said this herself on numerous occasions. She isn't up for discussion only ridiculing perceived "libruls". Why take her at her word now and give her the ammunition to fuel her obvious prejudice?

You are right six. This is how threads end up against anyone with right wing views. PM me the day one of you guys is actually critical of a fellow left wing poster. Oh I forgot, apparently any affiliation is simply an ignorant superficial label.

[rocks 494]

I will say it again...

I'm not voting for McCain because his old ### is going to die and then we will be stuck with Palin's dumb ###

anyone sane is worried about this problem.

[LoriLawless 0]

I don't like either candidate, but I have to vote for someone.

Out of the two, I'll pick Obama cause McCain is nothing but Bush with a different name.

[Heracles 417]

I will say it again...

I'm not voting for McCain because his old ### is going to die and then we will be stuck with Palin's dumb ###

Now here is an example of a "legitimate" opinion / post. Where one states their actual opinion, rather than an "OMG the OP is dumb"..

if you have read this whole thread quite a few people have stated why they are voting for Obama.. but they are promptly dismissed as not up to par...

Well they are hard to find against the stock standard "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It is seriously quite funny when someone starts a thread or posts a view which goes against the grain of OT VJ, only to receive personal attacks and insults from those with opposing views. On top of that these very same people turn around and claim the OP was never interested in a legitimate debate or discussion.

EG:

"I believe the lack of success by certain cultures in America has a lot to do with their negative attitude"

Stereotypical OT VJ response: "Shut up you racist fool". "You don't know anything" " bla bla bla"

A few posts later, the second poster and so forth are accusing the OP of refusing to participate in a "legitimate debate or discussion".

That's a nice softening of your views Boo-Yah, but it isn't really accurate of how these things go down is it.

As for the bolded part - she has said this herself on numerous occasions. She isn't up for discussion only ridiculing perceived "libruls". Why take her at her word now and give her the ammunition to fuel her obvious prejudice?

You are right six. This is how threads end up against anyone with right wing views. PM me the day one of you guys is actually critical of a fellow left wing poster. Oh I forgot, apparently any affiliation is simply an ignorant superficial label.

Its not a club mate - we're all individuals (all of us - even you).

[Marilyn. 340]

I will say it again...

I'm not voting for McCain because his old ### is going to die and then we will be stuck with Palin's dumb ###

Now here is an example of a "legitimate" opinion / post. Where one states their actual opinion, rather than an "OMG the OP is dumb"..

if you have read this whole thread quite a few people have stated why they are voting for Obama.. but they are promptly dismissed as not up to par...

Well they are hard to find against the stock standard "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts..

umm, you didn't read the whole thread did you?? I didn't see a lot of "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts here..

[rebeccajo 14]

looks like her answer was .... she doesn't think Obama has any qualifications ....

is that not an answer?

In a school-yard fight, it might be.

It's not an answer in a grown-up conversation.

That is funny to hear considering your first post in this thread was:

Just make sure you get your stories straight when you come back.

Can you show me the legitimate grown-up conversation in that post?

Ask some of the veterans MENA members what it means.

[Heracles 417]

umm, you didn't read the whole thread did you?? I didn't see a lot of "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts here..

Looking at the first page alone suggests otherwise.

How many people have legitimately answered the OP question "What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?"

Simple question really.. Which one should be able to answer considering they are voting for this guy to be their commander and chief.

Edited October 6, 2008 by Aficionado

[Marilyn. 340]

umm, you didn't read the whole thread did you?? I didn't see a lot of "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts here..

Looking at the first page alone suggests otherwise.

How many people have legitimately answered the OP question "What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?"

Simple question really.. Which one should be able to answer considering they are voting for this guy to be their commander and chief.

I m not denying the fact that not every single post in this thread answered that question.. but a lot of people just don't want to answer the question and that is their prerogative.. *shrugs*

and the people who did post their reasons were shot down because their reasons were not good enough...

[LoriLawless 0]

umm, you didn't read the whole thread did you?? I didn't see a lot of "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts here..

Looking at the first page alone suggests otherwise.

How many people have legitimately answered the OP question "What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?"

Simple question really.. Which one should be able to answer considering they are voting for this guy to be their commander and chief.

I m not denying the fact that not every single post in this thread answered that question.. but a lot of people just don't want to answer the question and that is their prerogative.. *shrugs*

and the people who did post their reasons were shot down because their reasons were not good enough...

Or ignored by the people that only pay attention to posts they can argue with.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

umm, you didn't read the whole thread did you?? I didn't see a lot of "you are dumb for having a differing view" posts here..

Looking at the first page alone suggests otherwise.

How many people have legitimately answered the OP question "What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?"

Simple question really.. Which one should be able to answer considering they are voting for this guy to be their commander and chief.

I m not denying the fact that not every single post in this thread answered that question.. but a lot of people just don't want to answer the question and that is their prerogative.. *shrugs*

and the people who did post their reasons were shot down because their reasons were not good enough...

Which might also be why others didn't answer the question in the first place. It having a lot to do with the track record of sneering cynicism espoused by the OP.

[Amby 490]

boys calm down or I will have to get out the photo

Edited October 6, 2008 by Amby