What Qualifies Obama to be President of the US?

[IAMX 3,055]

VW likes to assert that Palin is fully qualified and Obama isn't. VW's too biased & close-minded to figure out she's being a raging hypocrite by doing this. News flash: Both meet the basic requirements for their respective office. You can argue all day long which ticket is the better one but it all comes down to personal preference.

ANY assertion that Obama isn't qualified and Palin is, is biased. Doesn't matter who it comes from.

Of course, thankfully what helps understand this BS is the fact that these beliefs about "experience" fall right down the party line, along with the clearly subjective definition of it.

Which basically means they don't care to relate their experience (which means little, as someone with decades of experience can ** this country up nicely) to something more important, which is their voting history.

In his time in both the federal and state Senate, Obama has a trackable history on economics, on health care, on foreign policy, on all of those things. It would be nice if people actually ADDRESSED these issues rather than piss and moan about experience, pastors, socialism, pin lapels, and who his friends are and everything they did in their past (unrelated to Obama).

Anyone who thought VW was really interested in hearing why people vote for Obama for some legitimate purpose was sorely mistaken, as well. It's 100% a joke.

[Cassie 8]

Anyone who thought VW was really interested in hearing why people vote for Obama for some legitimate purpose was sorely mistaken, as well. It's 100% a joke.

Fully aware of that, but I made my reasons known so that at least now she can't say no-one knows why they are voting for him.

[mendeleev 68]

Just how important is experience? It is relevant, but overrated. Let's take a couple examples from the other party.

Nixon was VP for 8 years and ended up justly resigning in disgrace rather than get impeached and removed from office.

Lincoln had no national experience to speak of and unquestionably ended up as one of our best presidents.

The question we have this year is which of these two guys. Given recent performance during the current financial crisis, I have the impression that Obama is the calm grown-up of the two while McCain impulsive yet indecisive actions speak of a need for greater experience (that is, he needs to grow up) before he becomes president.

[IAMX 3,055]

Just how important is experience? It is relevant, but overrated. Let's take a couple examples from the other party.

Nixon was VP for 8 years and ended up justly resigning in disgrace rather than get impeached and removed from office.

Lincoln had no national experience to speak of and unquestionably ended up as one of our best presidents.

The question we have this year is which of these two guys. Given recent performance during the current financial crisis, I have the impression that Obama is the calm grown-up of the two while McCain impulsive yet indecisive actions speak of a need for greater experience (that is, he needs to grow up) before he becomes president.

The experience thing was a politically contrived move by people to justify their own candidate.

It's basically an escape from taking on real issues that require research and possibly re-thinking one's own values.

[Heracles 417]

I don't see it. Educate me.

He's another Harvard educated lawyer that has jumped into politics. How original. Just what we need...another lawyer in politics.

The country needs more people with genuine skills to enter the political field, like doctors, scientists, engineers etc.

That is change and certainly better than someone trained in convincing people to believe their bull #######, aka defense lawyers. The same lawyers who get off scumbag child molesters and murderers on 'technicalities', for a profit.

[Heracles 417]

He has served 19 weeks as US Senator. Experience enough.

Apparently more than enough, unlike Palin..

[Heracles 417]

I'll tell you what aren't qualifications:

• Being Black.
• Being liberal.
• Being a short term US Senator.
• Being a community organizer.
• Being a socialist.
• Being a Harvard law grad.
• Being an elitist.
• Being oblivious to your pals being terrorists, fraud artists and white people hating pastors.
• Helping your bud Tony Rezko make money being a slum lord, so he helps you buy personal property.
• Lying about heading Senate committees you're not even on.
• Lying about working across the aisle with John McCain when you didn't.
• Lying about your vote on funding the war, even before you were in Congress.
• Attending elite schools from childhood, making 4.7 million during the Bush administration and still whining about how hard life is in the US.
• Calling your grandma a "typical white woman" because she was scared of a Black man.
• Taking large sums of money from Fredie Mac and Fannie Mae.

Spot On.

[mawilson 2,133]

1) Obama has defeated the Clintons (who were supposed to be undefeatable), and

2) With less than a month to go, he is 7 points ahead of McCain in the polls.

If that doesn't sound like a skilled politician leading a well-run campaign, I don't know what is.

sounds more like a decent campaign manager instead.

One important qualification is the ability to hire skilled and competent staff.

A well-run campaign augurs a well-run government.

that's reaching.

Is it really?

Charles, you know I'm usually more conservative leaning than liberal, but at this point

I do think Obama is the lesser of two evils.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

A serious discussion about presidential qualifications would be to first find a consensus of what those qualifications are and then use that in the context of past presidential candidates to see where the current candidates stand. When you do that, VW, you'll see how painfully obvious that your attempt at disqualifying Obama as not presidential material is ridiculous. You don't like Obama because of the policies and ideas he stands behind...it's that simple. You continue to sidestep that argument because you know that on the issues, at least this time around, the Democratic Party's platform and the Democratic ticket of Obama/Biden is in step with what the American people want. They want universal healthcare. They want us out of Iraq. They want us to address Global Warming...etc, etc. This particular presidential race isn't going to be won or lost on personality or qualifications, it's going to be won or lost on which ticket offers the American people the best ideas to move forward. The old partisan, rhetoric of liberal vs. conservative just doesn't apply...particularly in light of the recent bipartisan bailout. We're beyond being stuck on ideological arguments...this is about ideas.

Word.

Sheep.

[Peikko 1,575]

Take your pills, PH. Your fantasies are in overdrive again.

As for being an attention #######, I never started a thread to whine about you like you did to whine about me. Odd, I've never had a compulsion to focus on you. I guess anyone who starts a thread is an attention ####### who needs to get a life, but you wanted to focus on me. You only ended up looking obssessed and pathetic - which you are.

It's hard to get wound up about people who fail to understand why they vote as they do. It's more sad. As sad as how you need to follow me around from thread to thread just to insult me; and when you can't, you make up one about me.

Get help.

The only reason why VW posted this thread is to watch the 'libruls' dance to her tune. What an attention #######. As to her judgements, phoeey it's not a term paper, no one has to post to satisfy her whims, seriously, VW needs to get a life, you know that one she came back from after 'several hours' absence (as if she has some claim to the 'perfect life balance of internet use and RL activities, please!) - some of us do enjoy winding VW up and watching her spin every now and again but I think we've had enough now, thank you.

Oh, yes, that's right, thank you so much for advertising one of my best efforts. Obsessed and pathetic, correct as usual VW and now I shall take a large dose of, now which pills shall I take tonight? The little blue ones? Or those nice yellow ones? Hmm, maybe I should take a nice combo of both? Now, let me find yet another thread that you have posted in, as quite obviously I am stalking you, you should be worried, after all, I am apparently an obsessed individual on medication and I am after you. Sleep well VW, sleep well.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I am seeking concrete policy positions and values.

Alright, fine then. Though I cannot vote in this election, I will list a couple of reasons why I would vote for Obama.

For example, I agree with his plans for a multi-prong approach to the issue of immigration. From his website:

Obama and Biden want to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.

Obama and Biden believe we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.

Obama and Biden will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.

Obama and Biden support a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Obama and Biden believe we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration

I also agree with his approach to foreign policy, particularly his plans for rejuvenating American diplomacy/American standing and respect through the world, fighting poverty and genocide in Africa, and his commitment to the war in Afghanistan.

I also agree with his ideas on the environment, particularly reducing dependance on oil (foreign AND domestic).

I also like his ideas on Universal Voluntary Public Service.

Those are a few reasons.

That's the Barack Obama who is pandering to White middle class voters. Here's the Barack Obama who panders to illegals.

Obama is a Rorschach inkblot test, this man. He wants you to see in him whatever it is that you need to want him.

How soon you forget.

[Heracles 417]

after all, I am apparently an obsessed individual on medication and I am after you. Sleep well VW, sleep well.

No, you are just a l---r who has mastered the use of witty insults against anyone who you disagree with. The same person who apparently hates labels yet 100% of the time attacks someone with opposing views; which just so happen to be directed to anyone with right wing views.

I am sure your like minded douche bag six should be here any second now..

Edited October 6, 2008 by Aficionado

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Correction: Obsessive and demented. I'm not running toward you, but you keep running toward me.

Take your pills, PH. Your fantasies are in overdrive again.

As for being an attention #######, I never started a thread to whine about you like you did to whine about me. Odd, I've never had a compulsion to focus on you. I guess anyone who starts a thread is an attention ####### who needs to get a life, but you wanted to focus on me. You only ended up looking obssessed and pathetic - which you are.

It's hard to get wound up about people who fail to understand why they vote as they do. It's more sad. As sad as how you need to follow me around from thread to thread just to insult me; and when you can't, you make up one about me.

Get help.

The only reason why VW posted this thread is to watch the 'libruls' dance to her tune. What an attention #######. As to her judgements, phoeey it's not a term paper, no one has to post to satisfy her whims, seriously, VW needs to get a life, you know that one she came back from after 'several hours' absence (as if she has some claim to the 'perfect life balance of internet use and RL activities, please!) - some of us do enjoy winding VW up and watching her spin every now and again but I think we've had enough now, thank you.

Oh, yes, that's right, thank you so much for advertising one of my best efforts. Obsessed and pathetic, correct as usual VW and now I shall take a large dose of, now which pills shall I take tonight? The little blue ones? Or those nice yellow ones? Hmm, maybe I should take a nice combo of both? Now, let me find yet another thread that you have posted in, as quite obviously I am stalking you, you should be worried, after all, I am apparently an obsessed individual on medication and I am after you. Sleep well VW, sleep well.

[PlatyPius 5]

I don't see it. Educate me.

He's over the minimum age requirement.

He's an American citizen.

He can spell his own name.

What other "qualifications" are there?

I wasn't aware that John McCain had experience being President either.

In fact, I'd say that no first-term President has started the job with any experience being President. Just kinda follows logically like that.

There IS no experience for being President. There is only a measure of how long the candidate has been in politics in order to gauge their level of corruption and disinterest in the plight of normal people. In that regard, yes...McCain has more experience.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I still don't get why people bother to tell someone something that the person has already decided to ignore. I also noticed that VW has absolutely no reason to offer why she wants to throw her vote towards McSame / Bush-Palin.