Reasons to DENY k1

[LilLoveBug 0]

Is there an official list of reasons that a K1 visa could be denied LEGALLY? I know there is alot of speculation and conjecture on this website but what are the LEGAL reasons for denial?

And now a question: I am the American (I am female), my fiancee (obviously a male) has no job, job skills, or educational background. (He is only 21 years old). I make enough money to support the financial requirements but can his lack of job, etc be a reason to deny him a visa?

Thanx

Bug

[EmilyM 0]

I don't have a list of denial reasons to give you so maybe someone can enlighten you on that.

However, in RE: to your other question:

I don't have any skills or college education. I had hardly any money to my name and I didn't have a job and I was approved. Also my husband didn't have a job at the time either so we had a joint sponsor help us. So no... those things won't be a reason for denial.

[Cassie 8]

failure to show evidence that you have met in person in the last two years

not free to marry

already married to each other

suspicions on the part of the adjudicator that this is a fraudulent relationship

Edited October 3, 2008 by Cassie

[LilLoveBug 0]

I don't have a list of denial reasons to give you so maybe someone can enlighten you on that.

However, in RE: to your other question:

I don't have any skills or college education. I had hardly any money to my name and I didn't have a job and I was approved. Also my husband didn't have a job at the time either so we had a joint sponsor help us. So no... those things won't be a reason for denial.

I know a lot of foreign women are in the position of no job, no money, etc but I am not sure how the USCIS will look upon a foreign MAN (gender being the issue) with no skills or job. I know gender SHOULDN'T be the issue, but often times it IS. I am also 14 years OLDER than he is, which was another thing I worried about.

Bug

[pushbrk 12,883]

Is there an official list of reasons that a K1 visa could be denied LEGALLY? I know there is alot of speculation and conjecture on this website but what are the LEGAL reasons for denial?

And now a question: I am the American (I am female), my fiancee (obviously a male) has no job, job skills, or educational background. (He is only 21 years old). I make enough money to support the financial requirements but can his lack of job, etc be a reason to deny him a visa?

Thanx

Bug

It's not that simple. Sure, if you haven't met in person or aren't free to marry when you file, the petition will be denied. If your fiance(e) is a prostitute or you make a material misrepresentation, there will be no visa.

Totality of circumstances is considered.

If your fiance is an unskilled 21 year old and you're 40, you're going to have a difficult time convincing a CO the relationship is bona fide, but no, in and of itself having no skills or a job is of no importance. Unless the job would continue in the US, having one doesn't really help either, again, in and of itself.

Learn the process and everything you can about requirements and best practices, then do the best you can. If you have specific questions after studying the guides, we're here for you.

[LilLoveBug 0]

Is there an official list of reasons that a K1 visa could be denied LEGALLY? I know there is alot of speculation and conjecture on this website but what are the LEGAL reasons for denial?

And now a question: I am the American (I am female), my fiancee (obviously a male) has no job, job skills, or educational background. (He is only 21 years old). I make enough money to support the financial requirements but can his lack of job, etc be a reason to deny him a visa?

Thanx

Bug

It's not that simple. Sure, if you haven't met in person or aren't free to marry when you file, the petition will be denied. If your fiance(e) is a prostitute or you make a material misrepresentation, there will be no visa.

Totality of circumstances is considered.

If your fiance is an unskilled 21 year old and you're 40, you're going to have a difficult time convincing a CO the relationship is bona fide, but no, in and of itself having no skills or a job is of no importance. Unless the job would continue in the US, having one doesn't really help either, again, in and of itself.

Learn the process and everything you can about requirements and best practices, then do the best you can. If you have specific questions after studying the guides, we're here for you.

ACK! Don't make me older than I need to be! I am 35.

Actually, my point was that older American men frequently marry younger foreign women (including younger unskilled foreign women) I just want to know if this an issue the other way around?

One of the biggest red flags is American women taking money to marry foreign men but in my case, I am wealthy. Unfortunately, this doesn't absolve the red flag, it just creates a new one: Perhaps he is "using me for my money". Ok, fine, I see that point, but how can he PROVE he isn't?

Bug

[Chris & Mara 0]

Proof that you have met in the last 2 years is the biggest one, so pictures, airline tickets, hotel bills, passport stamps etc.

Personal emails and letters help, Chris and I have been mailing stuff back and to each other since November 2006, it doesnt matter if its simply a letter or a pacel, but remember to keep the packaging (for the dates) and then the letter or card to prove the whole sending things because you cant have a face to face convo.

If you use the internet for voice calls or instant msgsing, copy the call/conversation history (Chris and I gave them like 300 pages to troll through lol) if you are showing that you speak to them every day like you would if you lived together or were married.

Not sure if this helps, but I hope if gives you some ideas, otherwise there are some great guides floating around the forums you just have to look for em.

[LilLoveBug 0]

Proof that you have met in the last 2 years is the biggest one, so pictures, airline tickets, hotel bills, passport stamps etc.

Personal emails and letters help, Chris and I have been mailing stuff back and to each other since November 2006, it doesnt matter if its simply a letter or a pacel, but remember to keep the packaging (for the dates) and then the letter or card to prove the whole sending things because you cant have a face to face convo.

If you use the internet for voice calls or instant msgsing, copy the call/conversation history (Chris and I gave them like 300 pages to troll through lol) if you are showing that you speak to them every day like you would if you lived together or were married.

Not sure if this helps, but I hope if gives you some ideas, otherwise there are some great guides floating around the forums you just have to look for em.

Thanks, yes I sent in a mountain of proof. He emails me daily. We talk on the phone almost daily but I paid for the calling plan and with it, I have to call him, not him call me. Hard to know what he could do to prove he loves me from a world away other than talking to me by chat and phone and emailing. He emails me alot more than I email him, does that help? hahaha too bad I couldn't just write, "well, if he don't love me he sure has a convincing act" signed naive stupid clueless American woman who couldn't tell if a man was BSing.

Bug

[pushbrk 12,883]

Is there an official list of reasons that a K1 visa could be denied LEGALLY? I know there is alot of speculation and conjecture on this website but what are the LEGAL reasons for denial?

And now a question: I am the American (I am female), my fiancee (obviously a male) has no job, job skills, or educational background. (He is only 21 years old). I make enough money to support the financial requirements but can his lack of job, etc be a reason to deny him a visa?

Thanx

Bug

It's not that simple. Sure, if you haven't met in person or aren't free to marry when you file, the petition will be denied. If your fiance(e) is a prostitute or you make a material misrepresentation, there will be no visa.

Totality of circumstances is considered.

If your fiance is an unskilled 21 year old and you're 40, you're going to have a difficult time convincing a CO the relationship is bona fide, but no, in and of itself having no skills or a job is of no importance. Unless the job would continue in the US, having one doesn't really help either, again, in and of itself.

Learn the process and everything you can about requirements and best practices, then do the best you can. If you have specific questions after studying the guides, we're here for you.

ACK! Don't make me older than I need to be! I am 35.

Actually, my point was that older American men frequently marry younger foreign women (including younger unskilled foreign women) I just want to know if this an issue the other way around?

One of the biggest red flags is American women taking money to marry foreign men but in my case, I am wealthy. Unfortunately, this doesn't absolve the red flag, it just creates a new one: Perhaps he is "using me for my money". Ok, fine, I see that point, but how can he PROVE he isn't?

Bug

Yes the reverse age difference is more of an issue than the more common. Again, the totality of circumstances are going to be considered and I can't comment on them comprehensively with regard to your case because there are too many unknowns. I will say that time together is always the best evidence of bona fides.

You don't "prove" any of this. You present evidence and he has an interview where he puts his best foot forward to go along with every fact in the file. Then subjective judgments are made by professionals. You've come to the right place to learn the process including how to prepare.

[Sylvia_n_Joseph 3]

Nothing can guarrantee that you won't be denied. We are both middle aged. I make 6 figures and have 30 years with the same employer and own 2 homes. We have daily calls and letters and all that. And simply because we met though his cousin I am in Visa hell. It is to the point where I wonder why I should go on. I haven't seen him in a year and am rapidly loosing my will to see tomorow

[stevi1123 0]

Nothing can guarrantee that you won't be denied. We are both middle aged. I make 6 figures and have 30 years with the same employer and own 2 homes. We have daily calls and letters and all that. And simply because we met though his cousin I am in Visa hell. It is to the point where I wonder why I should go on. I haven't seen him in a year and am rapidly loosing my will to see tomorow

This post touched my heart deeply. I am sorry that you are having a difficult time. This whole process is so draining at times. I will keep you in my prayers Sylvia. I hope that you receive good news very soon.....stevi

[LilLoveBug 0]

Nothing can guarrantee that you won't be denied. We are both middle aged. I make 6 figures and have 30 years with the same employer and own 2 homes. We have daily calls and letters and all that. And simply because we met though his cousin I am in Visa hell. It is to the point where I wonder why I should go on. I haven't seen him in a year and am rapidly loosing my will to see tomorow

This post touched my heart deeply. I am sorry that you are having a difficult time. This whole process is so draining at times. I will keep you in my prayers Sylvia. I hope that you receive good news very soon.....stevi

me too, this is terrible ... I am so sorry for you Sylvia and Joseph and I will pray for you both to be together soon. Maybe you can go be with him during this time and comfort each other until you get the visa? Can you take the time off work? God bless all the strong people on VJ, this is truly not an easy process but I think so worth it to earn true love.

Bug

[KimandRuss 0]

It has a lot to do with the Consulate you will be going through for the visa. Higher fraud posts will scrutinize relationships with larger age differences more than others. If you are going through a higher fraud Consulate you will want to gather all of the proof of bonafide you can... leave nothing to question.

Sylvia... so sorry sweetheart. Take care of you and stay strong!

[Cham 3]

Nothing can guarrantee that you won't be denied. We are both middle aged. I make 6 figures and have 30 years with the same employer and own 2 homes. We have daily calls and letters and all that. And simply because we met though his cousin I am in Visa hell. It is to the point where I wonder why I should go on. I haven't seen him in a year and am rapidly loosing my will to see tomorow

BIG HUGS TO YOU..I know how you feel. I have not seen my Kai in 1 year 5 months. If it was not for the webcams voice chat everyday. letters emails you name it I would go INSANE! There are a few days where I cry because I miss him so bad and he cries for the same reasons. YET we both know and God knows he will be here soon. This journey has been hell (waiting for the noa2 is the LONGEST WAIT!!!!)

Hold your head high sweet one and know GOD (or whoever you believe in) is watching over you and knows YOU both are deserving of this visa!

HUGS

Meri and Kai

[Sylvia_n_Joseph 3]

We don't have the luxury of internet connectivity. It is terrible , the separation and being so alone. I can't take time off work and my daughters huband walked out leaving her ( and me) with 4 young childern two of which have mental/behavioral issues. I have all the strikes against me, high fraud conulate , older woman younger man , different races. But all those reasons mean that I am being treated unfairly which is basically illegal. But knowing that the government is guilty of acting illegally doesn't help the days when you just want a hug or a kiss. Days like yesterday when my sons car broke , my grandson ran away from home and UPS has lost my passport on the way to the embassy ( to request a visa so I can visit Joseph ) The wedding dress has been moved so I don't see it in the closet anymore. I cancelled the camping trip and can't even go inside my camper without crying . We know we will be together as we will not give up. Thank for all your hugs. Sometimes I just can't stand what is going on.