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  1. 1. Which of the following are true? For US citizens and LPR's only. If you are not willing to identify as either a Democrat or Republican, do not answer.

    • I am a Democrat and have received food stamps.
      10
    • I am a Republican and have received food stamps.
      1
    • I am a Democrat and have received need-based student aid to go to college.
      20
    • I am a Republican and have received need-based student aid to go to college.
      8
    • I am a Democrat and have resided in government-subsidized housing.
      4
    • I am a Republican and have resided in government-subsidized housing.
      2
    • I am a Democrat and have received unemployment insurance payments.
      14
    • I am a Republican and have received unemployment insurance payments.
      3
    • I am a Democrat and have received some other form of government assistance.
      10
    • I am a Republican and have received some other form of government assistance.
      2
    • I am a Democrat and none of the above are true.
      16
    • I am a Republican and none of the above are true.
      12
  2. 2. In your opinion, do the following count as 'handouts'? For US citizens and LPR's only. If you are not willing to identify as either a Democrat or Republican, do not vote.

    • I am a Democrat and I believe Social Security payments after you retire count as government handouts.
      7
    • I am a Republican and I believe Social Security payments after you retire count as government handouts.
      1
    • I am a Democrat and I believe Unemployment Insurance payments after you lose a job count as government handouts.
      7
    • I am a Republican and I believe Unemployment Insurance payments after you lose a job count as government handouts.
      5
    • I am a Democrat and I believe the tax-exempt status of religious institutions like churches counts as a government handout.
      18
    • I am a Republican and I believe the tax-exempt status of religious institutions like churches counts as a government handout.
      7
    • None of the above
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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

Does it bother you that others that belong to your car, life and health insurance, have tapped into the coffers more than what they've paid into it? Are you going to turn away your Medicaid and Social Security benefits when you reach qualifying age?

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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

Does it bother you that others that belong to your car, life and health insurance, have tapped into the coffers more than what they've paid into it? Are you going to turn away your Medicaid and Social Security benefits when you reach qualifying age?

The bigger question is whether there will be any Medicaid or Social Security left when I qualify. In the mean time I work on the assumption that it won't be and plan my life accordingly. In other words...I feather my own nest with the fruits of my own labor realizing that to depend on oneself is far better than to solely put my fate in the hands of the government. Government ain't the answer...it's nothing but a big question.

Ever hear of the old fable about the ant and the grasshopper? I'm an ant...not a grasshopper.

As far as my car, life and health insurance...I voluntarily pay into it and expect it to be run in a competent manner so that it is there when needed. I have no qualms about filing a claim and that is not a handout. The government is not run on the same premise as the private sector. Government is incompetently run and contributions are hardly voluntary.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

Does it bother you that others that belong to your car, life and health insurance, have tapped into the coffers more than what they've paid into it? Are you going to turn away your Medicaid and Social Security benefits when you reach qualifying age?

The bigger question is whether there will be any Medicaid or Social Security left when I qualify. In the mean time I work on the assumption that it won't be and plan my life accordingly. In other words...I feather my own nest with the fruits of my own labor realizing that to depend on oneself is far better than to solely put my fate in the hands of the government. Government ain't the answer...it's nothing but a big question.

Ever hear of the old fable about the ant and the grasshopper? I'm an ant...not a grasshopper.

As far as my car, life and health insurance...I voluntarily pay into it and expect it to be run in a competent manner so that it is there when needed. I have no qualms about filing a claim and that is not a handout. The government is not run on the same premise as the private sector. Government is incompetently run and contributions are hardly voluntary.

If you're an ant, then why buy insurance of any kind, peejay?

Unemployment insurance works exactly the same way your medical or car insurance works...it's there when you need it. You can't call one a hand-out without logically calling the other the same.

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Registered Democrat. I received Pell Grants to get through college and subsidized student loans to get through grad school. I also did a teaching fellowship in college which paid a stipend and was for a state uni so does that count?

When I was a single mom I received WIC for a year. I suppose I could have worked a third job, but as I was also in college full time and working two part time jobs, it didn't seem to work for me. I figured I was paying taxes and bettering myself so I didn't need to be ashamed that I had a baby to feed.

I chose none of the above for the second set of questions.

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I'm Democrat and I receive a government hand-out. My dad died when I was 3 years old and my mom received survivors benefits on my behalf. She never remarried.

Pretty good thing, too.

5-15-2002 Met, by chance, while I traveled on business

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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

Does it bother you that others that belong to your car, life and health insurance, have tapped into the coffers more than what they've paid into it? Are you going to turn away your Medicaid and Social Security benefits when you reach qualifying age?

The bigger question is whether there will be any Medicaid or Social Security left when I qualify. In the mean time I work on the assumption that it won't be and plan my life accordingly. In other words...I feather my own nest with the fruits of my own labor realizing that to depend on oneself is far better than to solely put my fate in the hands of the government. Government ain't the answer...it's nothing but a big question.

Ever hear of the old fable about the ant and the grasshopper? I'm an ant...not a grasshopper.

As far as my car, life and health insurance...I voluntarily pay into it and expect it to be run in a competent manner so that it is there when needed. I have no qualms about filing a claim and that is not a handout. The government is not run on the same premise as the private sector. Government is incompetently run and contributions are hardly voluntary.

If you're an ant, then why buy insurance of any kind, peejay?

Unemployment insurance works exactly the same way your medical or car insurance works...it's there when you need it. You can't call one a hand-out without logically calling the other the same.

Ha! Are you naive or what?

Private insurers couldn't even start to get away with the incompetence of government programs. Any money you end up coughing up to Uncle Sugar is a tax anyway you slice it. In case you don't know the difference...one is a premium and the other is a tax. Uncle Sugar can call it what he wants, but when it goes into the treasury the politicians can use (misuse) it any way they see fit. Ever heard of all the IOU's in the Social Security fund? Look at the mess in Medicare/Medicaid.

Sure I insure my house. If you want to depend on FEMA...that is your foolish perogative. Crash your car into a tree and see if Uncle Sugar buys a new one for you. Piss away all your money all your life and see if Uncle Sugar takes real good care of you in old age with all the budget deficits we are running. Take care of your own business or take your chances. I take care of my own business as best as I can because I like to control my own destiny. Only a fool or an idiot depends on Uncle Sugar as their salvation in life.

Not to say that private insurers shouldn't be regulated, but I'll take a well regulated private insurer over government if and when possible.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

Does it bother you that others that belong to your car, life and health insurance, have tapped into the coffers more than what they've paid into it? Are you going to turn away your Medicaid and Social Security benefits when you reach qualifying age?

The bigger question is whether there will be any Medicaid or Social Security left when I qualify. In the mean time I work on the assumption that it won't be and plan my life accordingly. In other words...I feather my own nest with the fruits of my own labor realizing that to depend on oneself is far better than to solely put my fate in the hands of the government. Government ain't the answer...it's nothing but a big question.

Ever hear of the old fable about the ant and the grasshopper? I'm an ant...not a grasshopper.

As far as my car, life and health insurance...I voluntarily pay into it and expect it to be run in a competent manner so that it is there when needed. I have no qualms about filing a claim and that is not a handout. The government is not run on the same premise as the private sector. Government is incompetently run and contributions are hardly voluntary.

If you're an ant, then why buy insurance of any kind, peejay?

Unemployment insurance works exactly the same way your medical or car insurance works...it's there when you need it. You can't call one a hand-out without logically calling the other the same.

Ha! Are you naive or what?

Private insurers couldn't even start to get away with the incompetence of government programs. Any money you end up coughing up to Uncle Sugar is a tax anyway you slice it. In case you don't know the difference...one is a premium and the other is a tax. Uncle Sugar can call it what he wants, but when it goes into the treasury the politicians can use (misuse) it any way they see fit. Ever heard of all the IOU's in the Social Security fund? Look at the mess in Medicare/Medicaid.

Sure I insure my house. If you want to depend on FEMA...that is your foolish perogative. Crash your car into a tree and see if Uncle Sugar buys a new one for you. Piss away all your money all your life and see if Uncle Sugar takes real good care of you in old age with all the budget deficits we are running. Take care of your own business or take your chances. I take care of my own business as best as I can because I like to control my own destiny. Only a fool or an idiot depends on Uncle Sugar as their salvation in life.

Not to say that private insurers shouldn't be regulated, but I'll take a well regulated private insurer over government if and when possible.

It's the same concept, peejay. You can gripe all you want about government bureaucracy and of course we could bring up the bureaucracy of insurance companies as well, but that doesn't change the the fact that they both are built on the notion that the benefit is there when you need it, and both depend on a pool of people paying into it. One is no more or less a hand out than the other and you are no more or less a moocher if you use either source when you need it.

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No government handouts here.

11/2004 - Met in Brazil

09/2006 - Apply for K1

03/2007 - K1 approved

04/2007 - Apply for AOS & EAD

07/2007 - EAD approved

01/2008 - Conditional Residency approved

11/2009 - Apply to remove conditions

02/2010 - Permanent Residency approved

11/2010 - Apply for Citizenship

03/2011 - Citizenship approved

07/2011 - Moved back to Brazil

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Social secury and Unemployment can't really be counted as bailed out since you have already paid for that service just like taking an insurance.

I got Pell Grant and Strafford Loan when i went through college. Would that be considered a Bail out also?

Investment or Bail out.

High school Grad

Working for minimum wage, or maybe a little more. just for fact stakes let say $10/hr. How much taxes you have to pay to Federal and states. I'll take an arbitary number of 20% but mostly it's around 28%.

$400 week X 52= $20,800

Taxes = $4,160

College Grad ($30/hr)

$1200 week X 52 =$ 62,400

Taxes =$ 12,480

Now looking at the numbers, would that be considered a Bail out or an Investment, It's in the interest of the Govt to make sure the youngsters get a good college education, that increase their earning power and more tax revenue to the GOVT.

Over all if you get a $5,000 govt grant to go to school, in the 1st year of work alone the govt already got the money back, let alone that higher taxes bracket payment IT"S FOR THE REST OF YOUR WORKING LIFE,

As your earning increased over the years more taxes go to the system.

SO WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A GVT BAIL OUT?

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i pay taxes..i assume that is my personal handout to the government

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I couldn't participate in the poll because I'm an independent voter. I'm also an independent person. I've never took a red cent from the government of Uncle Sugar. I've paid more in than I ever got out. Ditto for my parents, grandparents, etc.

No freeloaders or bums in my lineage.

Does it bother you that others that belong to your car, life and health insurance, have tapped into the coffers more than what they've paid into it? Are you going to turn away your Medicaid and Social Security benefits when you reach qualifying age?

The bigger question is whether there will be any Medicaid or Social Security left when I qualify. In the mean time I work on the assumption that it won't be and plan my life accordingly. In other words...I feather my own nest with the fruits of my own labor realizing that to depend on oneself is far better than to solely put my fate in the hands of the government. Government ain't the answer...it's nothing but a big question.

Ever hear of the old fable about the ant and the grasshopper? I'm an ant...not a grasshopper.

As far as my car, life and health insurance...I voluntarily pay into it and expect it to be run in a competent manner so that it is there when needed. I have no qualms about filing a claim and that is not a handout. The government is not run on the same premise as the private sector. Government is incompetently run and contributions are hardly voluntary.

If you're an ant, then why buy insurance of any kind, peejay?

Unemployment insurance works exactly the same way your medical or car insurance works...it's there when you need it. You can't call one a hand-out without logically calling the other the same.

Ha! Are you naive or what?

Private insurers couldn't even start to get away with the incompetence of government programs. Any money you end up coughing up to Uncle Sugar is a tax anyway you slice it. In case you don't know the difference...one is a premium and the other is a tax. Uncle Sugar can call it what he wants, but when it goes into the treasury the politicians can use (misuse) it any way they see fit. Ever heard of all the IOU's in the Social Security fund? Look at the mess in Medicare/Medicaid.

Sure I insure my house. If you want to depend on FEMA...that is your foolish perogative. Crash your car into a tree and see if Uncle Sugar buys a new one for you. Piss away all your money all your life and see if Uncle Sugar takes real good care of you in old age with all the budget deficits we are running. Take care of your own business or take your chances. I take care of my own business as best as I can because I like to control my own destiny. Only a fool or an idiot depends on Uncle Sugar as their salvation in life.

Not to say that private insurers shouldn't be regulated, but I'll take a well regulated private insurer over government if and when possible.

It's the same concept, peejay. You can gripe all you want about government bureaucracy and of course we could bring up the bureaucracy of insurance companies as well, but that doesn't change the the fact that they both are built on the notion that the benefit is there when you need it, and both depend on a pool of people paying into it. One is no more or less a hand out than the other and you are no more or less a moocher if you use either source when you need it.

The same? Bullshit! When government takes money out your pocket involuntarily it is a tax. And you have little to no control how and what it is spent on. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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