Naturalization Certificate

[NickD 202]

No. Gaining citizenship doesn't affect your taxes.

Learning about immigration is not a requirement for a natural born USC, you learn about it if you happen to meet someone worth marrying from a foreign country that enters you into the so-called spin zone. And a spin zone it is. As a LPR, first have to staple that green card to your forehead, pay taxes, register for selective service, obey the thousands of laws of this country in a double jeopardy status, not only fined or imprisoned, but can be deported as well or denied USC. Have no say how this government is run, limited on the jobs you can earn a living at, and have to maintain a passport from a foreign country that may not want to grant it since you took off for another country.

And they call you a permanent resident when indeed you are anything but, first a conditional, then a ten year, and without warning your card can expire, you can be deported. Kind of difficult to read the expiration date on your card when you have to read it backwards since it has to be stapled to your forehead when looking in a mirror.

To get USC, you are required to send in the same proof three times in a roll with just minor updates, mainly tax returns, they love to see that you are paying taxes, and recently, also want to see your 1099's and W-2's as well. I think you will get SS benefits if any money is left as a LPR, but not disability benefits that you are also paying for.

Use to be, come here, attend night school a night per week for a couple of months, and become a USC, the they added the permanent resident status, the the conditional permanent resident that was added about twenty years ago. Can only guess what they will add next in that loop, but you can bet your last buck, they are working on that.

But regardless of the stage or imposed limitations, you can also bet, you have to pay taxes.

[Completely 3]

No. Gaining citizenship doesn't affect your taxes.

Learning about immigration is not a requirement for a natural born USC, you learn about it if you happen to meet someone worth marrying from a foreign country that enters you into the so-called spin zone. And a spin zone it is. As a LPR, first have to staple that green card to your forehead, pay taxes, register for selective service, obey the thousands of laws of this country in a double jeopardy status, not only fined or imprisoned, but can be deported as well or denied USC. Have no say how this government is run, limited on the jobs you can earn a living at, and have to maintain a passport from a foreign country that may not want to grant it since you took off for another country.

And they call you a permanent resident when indeed you are anything but, first a conditional, then a ten year, and without warning your card can expire, you can be deported. Kind of difficult to read the expiration date on your card when you have to read it backwards since it has to be stapled to your forehead when looking in a mirror.

To get USC, you are required to send in the same proof three times in a roll with just minor updates, mainly tax returns, they love to see that you are paying taxes, and recently, also want to see your 1099's and W-2's as well. I think you will get SS benefits if any money is left as a LPR, but not disability benefits that you are also paying for.

Use to be, come here, attend night school a night per week for a couple of months, and become a USC, the they added the permanent resident status, the the conditional permanent resident that was added about twenty years ago. Can only guess what they will add next in that loop, but you can bet your last buck, they are working on that.

But regardless of the stage or imposed limitations, you can also bet, you have to pay taxes.

Hi Nick, are you saying that there will no problem for me if I did update my SSN now but update it on a later date when we come back to the US? Do you know any consequences that I might encounter if I did not change it right away? I am just concern about this, I know I can send the updates form by mail, but was worried about sending the original supporting documents by mail. Per the website they do not accept the certified copy, I am not sure if a certified copy from the embassy will be sufficient....

Edited October 2, 2008 by Completely

[NickD 202]

Hi Nick, are you saying that there will no problem for me if I did update my SSN now but update it on a later date when we come back to the US? Do you know any consequences that I might encounter if I did not change it right away? I am just concern about this, I know I can send the updates form by mail, but was worried about sending the original supporting documents by mail. Per the website they do not accept the certified copy, I am not sure if a certified copy from the embassy will be sufficient....

I wouldn't trust the SS with my wife's certificate by mailing, and the only benefit is that disability and that's not easy to get if you are a USC, takes tons of doctors proof. Don't even know why you just can't check that USC box and mail that in. The reason I say that is in helping folks get SS benefits, for a good share of your life, you are paying in FICA taxes and unless you live to 160 years of age, won't ever get back what you paid in with standard IRA interest. But to get those benefits, even a buck back, you have to provide literally tons of evidence, and that excludes any evidence you submitted before including proof of citizenship, so why the big deal when you are in the paying stage? Another screwed up government agency.

And if that ain't enough, if you paid the maximum FICA taxes, but lost your job or became ill so your last five years of FICA payments were less, they greatly decrease your benefits, a ripoff.

They by law are taking 15% of your gross wages, either you pay all of it, or your employer pays half of it, but that is part of your wage, so you are in effect paying all of it. Those FICA taxes taken off the top are not tax deductible, you still are paying taxes on your gross amount, but if you are making a couple of bucks after retirement, have to pay taxes on your SS benefits. They sure know how to cream you, but getting a cent back from them can be pure murder.

It's doesn't take a mathematician to calculate that SS is taking a full years gross salary from us every 6.67 years and if you paid in for over 45 years, they should be able to give that full years wage back for another seven on a break even basis. But you only get a small fraction of that back, yet we have crooked politicians saying SS is going broke. And if you do not pay in, you will not get a cent back. And while your property taxes go up 10%, energy bills are tripled, with another 30% increase in the cost of food, they claim by their standards, the cost of living only went up 0.1% the last year.

Not ranting, just telling you the way it is.