just something i satrted to wonder

[ShallowShrek 0]

how do these Immigration Officers become immigration officers. what are the requirments? they all have a tuff face with attitude and rudeness how do they become the job?

[raymaga 25]

They look for a very specific personality type, just like the type of people that become border officers. They received extensive training on how to spot deceptive people and also how to keep their cool while doing it.

I have met some very nice border officers and Immigration personnel. I've also met a lot of not very nice ones too.

Edited September 28, 2008 by raymaga

[ShallowShrek 0]

They look for a very specific personality type, just like the type of people that become border officers. They received extensive training on how to spot deceptive people and also how to keep their cool while doing it.

I have met some very nice border officers and Immigration personnel. I've also met a lot of not very nice ones too.

yes but education wise or experience wise how do they start this career?

[akdiver 3]

Go to www.uscis.gov and look for the "job opportunities" link. I'm sure the info you seek is there somewhere.

[NickD 203]

Go to www.uscis.gov and look for the "job opportunities" link. I'm sure the info you seek is there somewhere.

Hmmm, pay is not too bad:

"9/29/2008 SUPVY CITIZENSHIP & IMMIGRATION APPEALS OFFICER-WORKING SUPV

You can make a significant impact on immigrant's lives while protecting and securing our shores by helping qualified immigrants and refugees gain the promise and potential of legally living and workin ...[more]

Vacancy Ann.#: CIS-PJN-212303-AAO

Who May Apply: Public

Pay Plan: GS-0930-15

Appointment Term: Permanent

Job Status: Full-Time

Opening Date: 9/22/2008

Salary: From 115,317.00 to 149,000.00 USD per year

Homeland Security, Citizenship and Immigration Services US-DC-WASHINGTON 115,317.00+"

No education requirements listed for this position.

"KEY REQUIREMENTS:

* U.S. Citizenship

* Background Security Investigation

* Drug Screening"

In my own personal experience with interviewer, thought I was speaking to a high school kid, only wish they would let me in during my wife's citizenship interview, and why not? Could have left for two minutes for the civics and English test, her interviewer was a word that rhythms with witch with the first letter the second one in the alphabet. No reason to treat an immigrant that way in a relatively new culture and country. And no consideration for the fact, they did go through all the steps to come here legally, it's the illegals they do not have anything to do with.

Feel one key requirement is to have an IQ no greater than 30 and an aid if you are manic depressive. In other agencies that govern corporations, the reason why most of them are there, cannot perform adequately in private industry as deadlines have to be met, with competence, and the bottom line is to show a profit. Heck if you need more money, just put a BSer in charge and send him to congress.

Some of the best BSer's I ran across are school administrators and that BS sure does not stand for a Bachelor of Science degree. Don't get into complicated subjects like basic multiplication tables, way too complicated for them, that is why they don't teach them to our kids.

[Laura+Tom 2]

I think it might be quite an interesting job.

[Flames9_RN 358]

The above is for a supervisor, not a person starting out

http://www.fedjobs.com/pay/pay.html They prob start out around a GS 7 or 8

[NickD 203]

The above is for a supervisor, not a person starting out

http://www.fedjobs.com/pay/pay.html They prob start out around a GS 7 or 8

Ha, the reason why government jobs make a person a supervisor is they can't do the normal work, so just go in there and instead of bragging, just say, I don't know a dang thing, so applying for that supervisory position. But you can't go in for an interview as an idiot, have to go in as an idiot that can speak in an authoritative manner. I use to work for the government, but developed a need to work with intelligent people. Time and grade is the only requirement for advancement.

[Laura+Tom 2]

The above is for a supervisor, not a person starting out

http://www.fedjobs.com/pay/pay.html They prob start out around a GS 7 or 8

Ha, the reason why government jobs make a person a supervisor is they can't do the normal work, so just go in there and instead of bragging, just say, I don't know a dang thing, so applying for that supervisory position. But you can't go in for an interview as an idiot, have to go in as an idiot that can speak in an authoritative manner. I use to work for the government, but developed a need to work with intelligent people. Time and grade is the only requirement for advancement.

Not always the case, I work in government and I had to pass three tests, an interview and then another interview for the job I wanted to go into. Was bloody hard and very stressful.

[Flames9_RN 358]

The above is for a supervisor, not a person starting out

http://www.fedjobs.com/pay/pay.html They prob start out around a GS 7 or 8

Ha, the reason why government jobs make a person a supervisor is they can't do the normal work, so just go in there and instead of bragging, just say, I don't know a dang thing, so applying for that supervisory position. But you can't go in for an interview as an idiot, have to go in as an idiot that can speak in an authoritative manner. I use to work for the government, but developed a need to work with intelligent people. Time and grade is the only requirement for advancement.

Not sure why you label all govt workers as incompetent, I know many that are not, including my wife, she work damn hard and earns every dime she makes . I could make comments about Venezuelan people as I have had friends have bad experiences in that country, but I'm above that.

Edited September 28, 2008 by flames9

[Lansbury 19]

they all have a tuff face with attitude and rudeness how do they become the job?

When they start they are quite normal, dealing with the moronic general public for a number of years causes the above.

[NickD 203]

The above is for a supervisor, not a person starting out

http://www.fedjobs.com/pay/pay.html They prob start out around a GS 7 or 8

Ha, the reason why government jobs make a person a supervisor is they can't do the normal work, so just go in there and instead of bragging, just say, I don't know a dang thing, so applying for that supervisory position. But you can't go in for an interview as an idiot, have to go in as an idiot that can speak in an authoritative manner. I use to work for the government, but developed a need to work with intelligent people. Time and grade is the only requirement for advancement.

Not sure why you label all govt workers as incompetent, I know many that are not, including my wife, she work damn hard and earns every dime she makes . I could make comments about Venezuelan people as I have had friends have bad experiences in that country, but I'm above that.

I am the idiot for not sticking with it, looks like the GS-15's are paying ten times as much today as back then, and not that far back then. And my crystal ball didn't tell me a huge portion of our manufacturing industry would be over exported overseas. But maybe the Chinese will take over these government jobs as well and they can do it because they are owning a larger and larger share of this country.

A test is only difficult if you don't know the answers, not going to brag, but was done so quick, was asked if I gave up, no, it was just an easy test. Was a GS-11 when I quit.

In regards to working hard, that poor old woman checking out groceries for us was working her can off, just commented your store is sure busy this morning. She replied, she was happy, was slow a couple of weeks ago, and they told her to go home, not making enough money to pay her bills, that is the way private businesses work.

Yes there are idiots in Venezuela, you can start off with the very top, but I am a natural born USC, wife is from there, also a very hard working, extremely intelligent woman. She fears this country will become like hers, she makes a good point the way government is taking over.

[ShallowShrek 0]

its one thing to do your job. another thing to do it with rudeness and arrogantly. yes i have seen one IO who was very very nice soft spoken and gentle,,these others look like they will eat you,