Waiting for SSN??

[bassagitator 1]

Gonna post this here too

Just wanted to post this out in the open, so everyone who is waiting for their SSN in the mail, can see this.

If you have your EAD, and it says you can legally work. Then while you wait for your SNN number you can take on a job. I went and applied for my SSN number and he told me the exact same thing, that it could take up to 4 weeks for it to be mailed out to me, because USCIS had not entered it into their system yet. But at the end of tha appointment he handed me a piece of paper, that stated this.

"If you are not a U.S. Citizen and you are applying for a Social Security Number card for employment purposes, and your immigration status allows you to work, you may legally begin employment while you await the issuance of a Social Security Card....."

So I take this to mean that I could go out and get a job tomorow, even without my SSN in hand. And just tell the employer, that you are allowed to work, and able to work without the SSN number in your hand. That you will provide them the SNN as soon as you recieve it.

Edited September 26, 2008 by bassagitator

[Otto 83]

Gonna post this here too

Just wanted to post this out in the open, so everyone who is waiting for their SSN in the mail, can see this.

If you have your EAD, and it says you can legally work. Then while you wait for your SNN number you can take on a job. I went and applied for my SSN number and he told me the exact same thing, that it could take up to 4 weeks for it to be mailed out to me, because USCIS had not entered it into their system yet. But at the end of tha appointment he handed me a piece of paper, that stated this.

"If you are not a U.S. Citizen and you are applying for a Social Security Number card for employment purposes, and your immigration status allows you to work, you may legally begin employment while you await the issuance of a Social Security Card....."

So I take this to mean that I could go out and get a job tomorow, even without my SSN in hand. And just tell the employer, that you are allowed to work, and able to work without the SSN number in your hand. That you will provide them the SNN as soon as you recieve it.

Unfortunately many/most employers will be reluctant/unable to do so without some sort of taxpayer ID number (be it SSN or ITIN).

[payxibka 10,045]

Gonna post this here too

Why? as it appears to be now two....

Unfortunately many/most employers will be reluctant/unable to do so without some sort of taxpayer ID number (be it SSN or ITIN).

ITIN won't work in lieu of a SSN....

[DI&JR 1]

From the Social Security Adminstration page Employer Responsibilities When Hiring Foreign Workers

To help ensure that only those who should receive a number do so, Social Security has taken extra steps to ensure the integrity of Social Security numbers. The changes to the way Social Security assigns numbers and issues cards may cause a delay of several weeks or months in receiving a number. This fact sheet addresses employer responsibilities when hiring foreign workers (e.g., students or cultural exchange visitors) who have applied for and are waiting to receive a Social Security number and card. Note that the employee may work while the Social Security number application is being processed.

1. What causes delays when foreign workers apply for Social Security numbers?

When foreign workers apply for Social Security numbers, Social Security verifies their documents directly with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Most applications are verified immediately, but there can be delays. Social Security understands that this process may affect companies who hire foreign workers, but direct verification from DHS is vital to ensuring the integrity of the Social Security number.

2. What are an employer's responsibilities when hiring foreign workers who don't have Social Security numbers?

Advise workers that they are required to apply for a Social Security number and card. If a worker applied for but has not yet received a Social Security number, you should get the following information as complete as possible: The worker's full name, address, date of birth, place of birth, father's full name, mother's full maiden name, gender and the date he or she applied for a Social Security number.

3. What if the worker doesn't have a Social Security number when wage reports (Forms W-2) are due to Social Security?

Paper Filers: If the worker applied for a card but didn't receive the number in time for filing, enter "Applied For" in Box a. (Reference: IRS Instructions for Forms W-2/W-3, www.irs.gov/instructions/iw2w3/index.html)

Electronic Filers: If the worker applied for a card but didn't receive the number in time for filing, enter all zeros in the field for the Social Security number. (Reference: Specifications for Filing Forms W-2 Electronically)

Remember to instruct the worker to tell you the number and the exact name printed on the card, when he or she receives it.

4. My foreign worker received his or her Social Security number after I filed my wage report. What do I do?

When you receive the worker's Social Security number, file Form W-2c (Corrected Wage and Tax Statement), to show the worker's number. Go to www.ssa.gov/employer/how.htm#how for instructions on filing W-2c’s.

Reference: 26 CFR 31.6011

[island_princess 2]

It only takes an overnight to generate the SSN in SSA's system. Basically, the next business day you can go back to the same SSA Office and request for a printed certification of your SSN. This is what I did. The same day I got the printed certification, I went for job hunting. The 2-4 weeks wait is only for the paper/card copy of the SSN.

Gonna post this here too

Just wanted to post this out in the open, so everyone who is waiting for their SSN in the mail, can see this.

If you have your EAD, and it says you can legally work. Then while you wait for your SNN number you can take on a job. I went and applied for my SSN number and he told me the exact same thing, that it could take up to 4 weeks for it to be mailed out to me, because USCIS had not entered it into their system yet. But at the end of tha appointment he handed me a piece of paper, that stated this.

"If you are not a U.S. Citizen and you are applying for a Social Security Number card for employment purposes, and your immigration status allows you to work, you may legally begin employment while you await the issuance of a Social Security Card....."

So I take this to mean that I could go out and get a job tomorow, even without my SSN in hand. And just tell the employer, that you are allowed to work, and able to work without the SSN number in your hand. That you will provide them the SNN as soon as you recieve it.

[I'm Gone 60]

It only takes an overnight to generate the SSN in SSA's system. Basically, the next business day you can go back to the same SSA Office and request for a printed certification of your SSN. This is what I did. The same day I got the printed certification, I went for job hunting. The 2-4 weeks wait is only for the paper/card copy of the SSN.

The 2 to 4 weeks is the estimated time to verify the immigration status. Then another 14 days after the number has been assigned to receive the card. You are correct that after the number has been assign that you can go back to the SSA office normally the next day to find out the number and you can request an SSN Verification Printout to give you some proof until you receive the card.

You can find SSN and employment information on the Internal Revenue Service Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

[san_cai 0]

I received my EAD on tuesday, and went to SSA on thursday of the same week. I was told that it might take approximately 8 weeks for them to send the card, depending on USCIS verification... Does it really take that long? anyone of you if going to SSA to check if I am already in the system will help? since the office is just around my block....

[I'm Gone 60]

I received my EAD on tuesday, and went to SSA on thursday of the same week. I was told that it might take approximately 8 weeks for them to send the card, depending on USCIS verification... Does it really take that long? anyone of you if going to SSA to check if I am already in the system will help? since the office is just around my block....

You need to find out at which step of the verification process it's at.

First find out why the initial verification failed. Your name can be one letter off and still be acceptable and if it verifies in your maiden name and you are applying with the married name, that's OK too.

Then find out if the SSA office submitted a secondary electronic verification request and if yes, did it come back. If the response was to submit a copy of your immigration documents, were they sent with Form G-845 and when was it sent. If it was sent over a month ago, have they followed up.

The verification can take anywhere from a few days to months.

[san_cai 0]

I received my EAD on tuesday, and went to SSA on thursday of the same week. I was told that it might take approximately 8 weeks for them to send the card, depending on USCIS verification... Does it really take that long? anyone of you if going to SSA to check if I am already in the system will help? since the office is just around my block....

You need to find out at which step of the verification process it's at.

First find out why the initial verification failed. Your name can be one letter off and still be acceptable and if it verifies in your maiden name and you are applying with the married name, that's OK too.

Then find out if the SSA office submitted a secondary electronic verification request and if yes, did it come back. If the response was to submit a copy of your immigration documents, were they sent with Form G-845 and when was it sent. If it was sent over a month ago, have they followed up.

The verification can take anywhere from a few days to months.

The clerk said my info is not in the system. and she told me that she already submitted a request since she cant verify it right away. I assume what she did was the secondary electronic verification? how long does the secondary verification usually take? she used the name that is printed in my EAD. so i guess there shouldnt be any confusion with my name or spelling... Am i right?

[I'm Gone 60]

The clerk said my info is not in the system. and she told me that she already submitted a request since she cant verify it right away. I assume what she did was the secondary electronic verification? how long does the secondary verification usually take? she used the name that is printed in my EAD. so i guess there shouldnt be any confusion with my name or spelling... Am i right?

It sounds like the secondary electronic verification needs to be submitted. Those are normally respond to by immigration in around a week. The thing is did the person submit it right away and will they keep checking to see if they have received a response and not let it sit. Without looking at the response from the intial verification request it's hard to say if there is a name mismatch. Just because it's right on the card doesn't mean it can't be wrong on the verification response. The good thing is you have an EAD card that's good for a year, so not much chance of you status expiring before it is verified, like happens to K-1s.

Edited October 18, 2008 by I Quit

[san_cai 0]

The clerk said my info is not in the system. and she told me that she already submitted a request since she cant verify it right away. I assume what she did was the secondary electronic verification? how long does the secondary verification usually take? she used the name that is printed in my EAD. so i guess there shouldnt be any confusion with my name or spelling... Am i right?

It sounds like the secondary electronic verification needs to be submitted. Those are normally respond to by immigration in around a week. The thing is did the person submit it right away and will they keep checking to see if they have received a response and not let it sit. Without looking at the response from the intial verification request it's hard to say if there is a name mismatch. Just because it's right on the card doesn't mean it can't be wrong on the verification response. The good thing is you have an EAD card that's good for a year, so not much chance of you status expiring before it is verified, like happens to K-1s.

she handed me a letter after and my name and spelling in that letter is correct, and she had me sign a paper with all my info needed i guess for the application and they were all correct. As far as I can remember she told me that same time that she already submitted a verification request from USCIS. So i assume she submitted it that same time... So do you think I should check with SSA every week? What do u think is the best way to do? call them or visit the local office? I can visit any local office right??? since I believe all offices have same system... because I applied in a different office without knowing that there's a local office around my block... (talking about stupidity... LOL).

Why does sometimes it takes months for them to assign ssn to people (if they apply and not in the system yet) when i read from forums that once you receive your EAD wait for approx 10 days before applying for ssn so the system will be updated once they apply and they'll be in a system and card will be received in 5-7 days? isnt just the same with applying before the system updates? once they have all the info of the applicant they could send ssn right away? or they totally forgot about it?

[san_cai 0]

and one more thing. do they really have to wait for USCIS' answer even though after few days I am already in their system?

[I'm Gone 60]

she handed me a letter after and my name and spelling in that letter is correct, and she had me sign a paper with all my info needed i guess for the application and they were all correct. As far as I can remember she told me that same time that she already submitted a verification request from USCIS. So i assume she submitted it that same time... So do you think I should check with SSA every week? What do u think is the best way to do? call them or visit the local office? I can visit any local office right??? since I believe all offices have same system... because I applied in a different office without knowing that there's a local office around my block... (talking about stupidity... LOL).

Why does sometimes it takes months for them to assign ssn to people (if they apply and not in the system yet) when i read from forums that once you receive your EAD wait for approx 10 days before applying for ssn so the system will be updated once they apply and they'll be in a system and card will be received in 5-7 days? isnt just the same with applying before the system updates? once they have all the info of the applicant they could send ssn right away? or they totally forgot about it?

Yes best to go back to the SSA office at least once a week to see what's going on. It can take months because the response from the secondary electronic can be that immigration wants to see a copy of your EAD card and that gets mailed to immigration with Form G-845 and immigration mails the response back. There are only 5 or 6 immigration offices that process the G-845s. A lot of them go to the LA, California office for verification. SSA really has no way of knowing that it was delivered to immigration and doesn't check and immigration had no idea if SSA received their response and doesn't check. It's a f**ked up system. The G-845s should be faxed.

and one more thing. do they really have to wait for USCIS' answer even though after few days I am already in their system?

Yes, nothing happens until SSA can verify your immigration status.

[san_cai 0]

she handed me a letter after and my name and spelling in that letter is correct, and she had me sign a paper with all my info needed i guess for the application and they were all correct. As far as I can remember she told me that same time that she already submitted a verification request from USCIS. So i assume she submitted it that same time... So do you think I should check with SSA every week? What do u think is the best way to do? call them or visit the local office? I can visit any local office right??? since I believe all offices have same system... because I applied in a different office without knowing that there's a local office around my block... (talking about stupidity... LOL).

Why does sometimes it takes months for them to assign ssn to people (if they apply and not in the system yet) when i read from forums that once you receive your EAD wait for approx 10 days before applying for ssn so the system will be updated once they apply and they'll be in a system and card will be received in 5-7 days? isnt just the same with applying before the system updates? once they have all the info of the applicant they could send ssn right away? or they totally forgot about it?

Yes best to go back to the SSA office at least once a week to see what's going on. It can take months because the response from the secondary electronic can be that immigration wants to see a copy of your EAD card and that gets mailed to immigration with Form G-845 and immigration mails the response back. There are only 5 or 6 immigration offices that process the G-845s. A lot of them go to the LA, California office for verification. SSA really has no way of knowing that it was delivered to immigration and doesn't check and immigration had no idea if SSA received their response and doesn't check. It's a f**ked up system. The G-845s should be faxed.

and one more thing. do they really have to wait for USCIS' answer even though after few days I am already in their system?

Yes, nothing happens until SSA can verify your immigration status.

OMG!!! the system suxxxxx... but once you're granted with EAD for sure USCIS will send info to SSA right? so regardless of the electronic verification or paper verification they should send my info to SSA no matter what... and I should be with SSA's system in 10 days atleast. and they should give me the ssn once im in the system even without the response of USCIS right? so going to local office will make a difference. There's no way that i'll wait for USCIS to respond... My info should be sent soon to SSA...

[I'm Gone 60]

OMG!!! the system suxxxxx... but once you're granted with EAD for sure USCIS will send info to SSA right? so regardless of the electronic verification or paper verification they should send my info to SSA no matter what... and I should be with SSA's system in 10 days atleast. and they should give me the ssn once im in the system even without the response of USCIS right? so going to local office will make a difference. There's no way that i'll wait for USCIS to respond... My info should be sent soon to SSA...

I'll say it one more time, you are not going to be assigned an SSN until SSA can verify your having work authorized status. The fact that you have an EAD doesn't mean anything when it comes to the amount of time that's going to take.