Yardies Heading to Jamaica in October

[*JG* 2]

Okay, Journee - Have to ask - What the heck do you do for a living that you can go so much? I'm jealous!

Sorry Sus,

I just saw that you sent me this question. My Sister and I own a Day Spa and Events Planning Business. And I just started my own Bankrupcty Documentation Preparation Service. That is primarily why I can leave so much. Because most of my work can travel with me. Thanks to all who answered wiht wireless connection in Jamaica.

That's a smart business to be in with this economy right now.

I want to know exactly what that entails. And, how much that cuts out a lawyer's time.

That's a very fine line to walk - I have seen several cases where "document preparers" were brought up on charges of impersonating an attorney -

That's what I wonder. Would you still have to pay an attorney and for what reasons then? And, if not, how much money would you save?

I just read a BOA lawsuit where the document preparer was charged for something similar.

[sus 70]

A document preparation service is for someone who intends to proceed pro se (do it themselves) and the service is for someone to help them fill out the forms - the person is not supposed to give legal advice or direction, just help with the forms - it's a very hard area, and one that's touchy for me (no offense, Journee) - as paralegals we fight really hard for recognition that we provide a valuable service - some of these self help companies give us a bad name, because people link them with paralegals -

[*SunRay* 1]

October Yardies

Name

SunnyJa

Dates

10/4/08-10/16/08

Location

Ocho Rios - Private Villa in Mammee Bay

Purpose

Interview 10/7

Name

Islandwoman

Dates

10/10/08-10/15/08

Location

Hanover/family - Ocho Rios - Sandcastles

Purpose

Visiting - vacation - ???

Name

Honeychild

Dates

10/13- 10/19/08

Location

Ocho Rios- Fishermans

Purpose

Rooksin...( j/k...ummm vacation and visits)

Name

MrsPalmer

Dates

10/13-10/19

Location

Montego Bay-El Greco Resort

Purpose

1st Wedding Anniversary

Name

Journee1125

Dates

10/13/08- 11/03/08

Location

Negril

Purpose

SO Bday Party is 11/01/08

Name

solsoeur

Dates

10/17 thru 10/21

Location

Negril

Purpose

Visiting/Vacation

Name

Marlita

Dates

10/18 thru 10/22

Location

Kingston

Purpose

Interview 10/21

Name

Forbes

Dates

10/19 to 10/23

Location

Kingston - Alhambra Inn

Purpose

Interview 10/21

Name

Jski

Dates

10/20-10/23

Location

Kingston/Liguanea - with her family

Purpose

Interview - but this might be postponed??

Name

Marie87

Dates

10/21-10/28

Location

Manchester/Negril

Purpose

Wedding/Family

November Yardies:

Name

Roxcie-Joe

Dates

11/04/2008-12/3/2008

Location

Kingston

Purpose

Conjugal Visits

Name

MSNELLY

Dates

11/13/2008-11/19/2008

Location

Negril-Rondell Village

Purpose

Vacation-Visiting

Name

Unruly Gal

Dates

11/16/2008 - 11/25/2008

Location

Negril -- Samsara (probably)

Roehampton (outside Montego Bay)

Purpose

Celebrate our first anniversary (dating)

December Yardies:

Name

Journee1125

Dates

12/1/08- 12/15/08

Location

Negril

Purpose

My Bday Party is 12/06/08

Name

Sus

Dates

12/26/2008-1/6/2009

Location

Unknown yet, lol - Maybe Portland

Purpose

My birthday!, Conjugal Visits, relaxation, maybe wedding...........

2009 Yardies

Name

Tonya

Dates

1/09/2009-1/21/2009

Location

Maybe Negril and Ochi

Purpose

My birthday!, Conjugal Visits, relaxation, maybe wedding...........

Name

Trelawny

Dates

06/19/2009-07/12/2009

Location

Trelawny, St. James, St. Ann, St. Andrew, St. Elizabeth, Westermoreland and St. Thomas, Hanover, Clarendon, Manchester, St. Mary

Purpose

Mi no now yet...wen mi find out mi we mek unuh know

[*JG* 2]

A document preparation service is for someone who intends to proceed pro se (do it themselves) and the service is for someone to help them fill out the forms - the person is not supposed to give legal advice or direction, just help with the forms - it's a very hard area, and one that's touchy for me (no offense, Journee) - as paralegals we fight really hard for recognition that we provide a valuable service - some of these self help companies give us a bad name, because people link them with paralegals -

How do bankruptcy courts look at document preparation services?

[sus 70]

A document preparation service is for someone who intends to proceed pro se (do it themselves) and the service is for someone to help them fill out the forms - the person is not supposed to give legal advice or direction, just help with the forms - it's a very hard area, and one that's touchy for me (no offense, Journee) - as paralegals we fight really hard for recognition that we provide a valuable service - some of these self help companies give us a bad name, because people link them with paralegals -

How do bankruptcy courts look at document preparation services?

I am not 100% positive on a state by state basis - but typically they aren't even aware that someone else prepared the docs - bankruptcy is a little different, because it's a matter of calculating finances, etc.... The ones that really piss me off are the do it yourself divorces, etc... preparers - because i have done clinics, and have a really hard time seeing how you can prepare docs for someone getting a divorce and not give advice -

Most of these go somewhat unnoticed until an attorney starts losing clients or money and pays attention - then the bar usually tries to go after them.

[*JG* 2]

I PM'd you, Sus.

[Yaads 0]

Okay, Journee - Have to ask - What the heck do you do for a living that you can go so much? I'm jealous!

Me too!!!

For real! I only get 1 week of vacation and a few hours of sick leave per quarter but it has to be sick leave...docs note and all. It sucks

Per quarter????????? Count your blessings.....and HUSH!

3 HOURS for 3 MONTHS for sick leave is very hard to count as a blessing but I will try for you

[SupportOAFJF 0]

OK..how about all ur dyam days get rolled into 1..15days sick,personal and whatever else...they piss me off

[*SunRay* 1]

Okay, Journee - Have to ask - What the heck do you do for a living that you can go so much? I'm jealous!

Me too!!!

For real! I only get 1 week of vacation and a few hours of sick leave per quarter but it has to be sick leave...docs note and all. It sucks

Per quarter????????? Count your blessings.....and HUSH!

3 HOURS for 3 MONTHS for sick leave is very hard to count as a blessing but I will try for you

Wow yards! We accrue 4hrs every two weeks.

[Yaads 0]

Yeah it is 1 hour a month to cover for doc appts. Then the 1 week a year vaca. I hate my job

Sunny you work for the govt right? Mi need wan of dem jobs

[SupportOAFJF 0]

government workers I tell yah

[dancehallquana 5]

government workers I tell yah

lol..it is the bomb.. i worked in private for 1 mnth and was running!!! I do count my blessing FOR REAL

8 hrs a mnth sick.. and 6 hrs vacay time every 2 weeks..

still wish I had Journee's time off though.. i am too lazy to start my own business..

Edited October 1, 2008 by dancehallquana

[JOURNEE1125 0]

I am sorry guys. I am not really used to this new page and I am logged in but not always "browsing this page". You are correct Sus there is alot of flack for Prep Documentors. I worked in Eastern Dist bankrupcty court for a long time <I was the person paralegals loved so much. I verified all of the documents and returned "many" cases for schedule discrepencies to firms for additional information. I worked as a "Creditor" in Southern District Bankruptcy Court for a while and I worked in my step mothers firm part time to pay for college.

So a few friends throw me some "over flow" business and I get some good referrals. Unfortunatly with our economy, bankruptcy court and attorneys in Stl are soooo backed up. I am not experiancing a shortage of business.

The files we <2 other ladies work with me> work, detail on page 1 before schedule A lists in detail that you are aware your paperwork is being by a service not affiliated with an attorney and you are filing pro se.

At this point I have not had any cases come back to haunt me and if I stick to the rules I wont. I dont make millions but its a living and I had some experiance before getting into the business. I enjoy working for myself. I enjoy tryng new businesses. I am not the traditional type of 9 to 5ver. So I have to admit. I enjoy "Not Having A boss"

Edited October 1, 2008 by JOURNEE1125

[*SunRay* 1]

ok, we need to take this conversation into the other room. This thread is for posting dates of travel. Luv ya!

[JOURNEE1125 0]

government workers I tell yah

lol..it is the bomb.. i worked in private for 1 mnth and was running!!! I do count my blessing FOR REAL

8 hrs a mnth sick.. and 6 hrs vacay time every 2 weeks..

still wish I had Journee's time off though.. i am too lazy to start my own business..

Takes alot of patience. I dont suggest it any one who has not researched their business and have at least minimal experiance. And this is not my 1st or only business. I have never had "just a job". I always had a full time and a part time (working for my self). Fortunatly I have been sucessful <got a decent savings and I aint never been foreclosed, repoed or evicted or had to steal food, THANK YOU JESUS>.I like "Unique Ways" of making money!!! Legal of Course.

ok, we need to take this conversation into the other room. This thread is for posting dates of travel. Luv ya!

Dang Sunnyj Im sorry I was just repling to their questions. THEY STARTED IT!!! LMAO