Declined Visa: Rant + Help

[Olego 0]

It sounds like you were planning on her getting a tourist visa and then marrying once she got here.

Yea, that is what it would have sounded like to the Immigration Officer. Thanks to this site, I had learned in advance not to do that, so that wasn't at all part of the plan, but those things are impossible to prove.

Once I naturalize, can I apply for K-1 immediately?

yes!

I'll be waiting for that day with impatience.

[slim 1,525]

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

[mox 298]

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

Yes...nothing could go wrong with that plan!

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

Right... :lol:

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

Yes...nothing could go wrong with that plan!

[Brad and Vika 129]

Right... :lol:

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

Yes...nothing could go wrong with that plan!

Slim, you are, as ever, a veritable fountain of wisdom and new ideas

[*JG* 2]

Thanks! I was rather busy with other aspects of life. I have a little free time now to stop by. Keep a look out in a week, my holiday tradition will return!

I cannot remember where I heard it, but the odds of obtaining a tourist visa if you are a young, single lady with nothing tangible, being left behind in Russia, are around 2%. It is almost a sure denial.

Oh........where have you been. I've missed seeing your posts.

Happy to see you again.

Woo hoo.....that's what I'm talking about!!!!!

[slim 1,525]

Right... :lol:

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

Yes...nothing could go wrong with that plan!

Slim, you are, as ever, a veritable fountain of wisdom and new ideas

Guys, I'm not saying that's what he should do.... but, it's been done before and it can work. That is the quickest way for her to get over here and provided he does his homework (and pays or trusts his buddy enough) then they could get togther sooner than waiting for naturalization and sponsorship.

Come on.... we all know someone who is married to someone else but is staying here with an entirely different someone else for the visa/GC.

Once again, not saying this guy, or anyone, should do it...... but it happens.

Just another option.

[Olego 0]

Once again, not saying this guy, or anyone, should do it...... but it happens.

I agree, and I've thought about it in the past, theoretically... But in this case, that idea was never even considered.

[slim 1,525]

Once again, not saying this guy, or anyone, should do it...... but it happens.

I agree, and I've thought about it in the past, theoretically... But in this case, that idea was never even considered.

It's really not a good idea, but it's possible.

If you can be patient and possibly meet somewhere else in the mean time, it would probably be better (and legal, not to mention!) in the long run. There's absolutely nothing wrong with following all the rules!

[Corey-Mariya 14]

I cannot remember where I heard it, but the odds of obtaining a tourist visa if you are a young, single lady with nothing tangible, being left behind in Russia, are around 2%. It is almost a sure denial.

Alot of young single women on a j1 visa is over 90 percent

[TayRivers 4]

Right...

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

Yes...nothing could go wrong with that plan!

Slim, you are, as ever, a veritable fountain of wisdom and new ideas

Guys, I'm not saying that's what he should do.... but, it's been done before and it can work. That is the quickest way for her to get over here and provided he does his homework (and pays or trusts his buddy enough) then they could get togther sooner than waiting for naturalization and sponsorship.

Come on.... we all know someone who is married to someone else but is staying here with an entirely different someone else for the visa/GC.

Once again, not saying this guy, or anyone, should do it...... but it happens.

Just another option.

What you are sugesting is illegal. and against the TOS for VJ

[Neonred 3,564]

Looks like it's time for us to invade the UK forum!

[Corey-Mariya 14]

Looks like it's time for us to invade the UK forum!

haha lets DO IT!!!!

[slim 1,525]

Right...

This is why Russia Forum is a gray area.....

You could always have a buddy sponsor her over via K-1 and then marry her... wait a few months... then divorce her.

She's yours to keep after that!

Yes...nothing could go wrong with that plan!

Slim, you are, as ever, a veritable fountain of wisdom and new ideas

Guys, I'm not saying that's what he should do.... but, it's been done before and it can work. That is the quickest way for her to get over here and provided he does his homework (and pays or trusts his buddy enough) then they could get togther sooner than waiting for naturalization and sponsorship.

Come on.... we all know someone who is married to someone else but is staying here with an entirely different someone else for the visa/GC.

Once again, not saying this guy, or anyone, should do it...... but it happens.

Just another option.

What you are sugesting is illegal. and against the TOS for VJ

Not true. The TOS says something to the effect of "encouraging folks to do illegal things" is prohibited. I never did that. I stated that it's been done before, and he could do it, but never that he should do it. Even if you interpret the TOS as saying "giving advice on illegal matters is prohibited" there's still that thin line there where I'm not giving advice, I'm simply stating what's been done in the past and what could be done, in theory, in the future.

This is what's wrong with our legal systems today. From the highest court all the way down to the TOS on VJ. Folks would rather debate the legality of something instead of the reality of something. But, since I'm a fan of legal documents, there's always a loop-hole, you just have to find it. And that's what makes our country so great! Well, at least if you ask the politicians, anyway. Everything they do is "legal" in one form or another.

[Satellite 1]

I cannot remember where I heard it, but the odds of obtaining a tourist visa if you are a young, single lady with nothing tangible, being left behind in Russia, are around 2%. It is almost a sure denial.

Alot of young single women on a j1 visa is over 90 percent

Thus a J1 is not a B1/B2 nor a K1 for that matter. Point taken!

My point: Different visas, different purposes, different qualifications, and different odds. Why are we comparing apples and oranges?

Edited October 10, 2008 by Satellite