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[rebeccajo 14]

Notice that charles! said only two words: "I disagree". This is enough for him to be denounced also. No one is allowed to disagree with the pack.

if only saying two words got me in that much hot water, imagine how much hot water i'll be in for all of these words

He wasn't denounced, and he's not in any hot water....

Charles, you're clearly friends with VW and that's ok.

In my real life world, my friends and I stick together, but we also sort of act as a 'check and balance' system for each other. If you get what I mean.

[rebeccajo 14]

VW's point was not illogical. It simply does not flow with conventional Kumbaya PC bull #######. Her point is as valid as the FACT that certain black Americans will vote for Obama solely because he is black.

See there? How hard was that? You stated it simply and succinctly without inflammatory talk.

I think that's all anybody is asking.

If we can't have that - well then hey, don't get your panties all bunched up if we give it right back!

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

Notice that charles! said only two words: "I disagree". This is enough for him to be denounced also. No one is allowed to disagree with the pack.

if only saying two words got me in that much hot water, imagine how much hot water i'll be in for all of these words

He wasn't denounced, and he's not in any hot water....

Charles, you're clearly friends with VW and that's ok.

In my real life world, my friends and I stick together, but we also sort of act as a 'check and balance' system for each other. If you get what I mean.

and with you too.

[Heracles 417]

In my real life world, my friends and I stick together, but we also sort of act as a 'check and balance' system for each other. If you get what I mean.

And that is wrong. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. I personally have never held someone accountable for doing X yet turned a blind to it if my friend does it. I hold my friend just as accountable, including myself, for that matter.

Edited September 23, 2008 by Aficionado

[rebeccajo 14]

Notice that charles! said only two words: "I disagree". This is enough for him to be denounced also. No one is allowed to disagree with the pack.

if only saying two words got me in that much hot water, imagine how much hot water i'll be in for all of these words

He wasn't denounced, and he's not in any hot water....

Charles, you're clearly friends with VW and that's ok.

In my real life world, my friends and I stick together, but we also sort of act as a 'check and balance' system for each other. If you get what I mean.

and with you too.

Likewise, my friend.

That doesn't mean though that if I think you're out of line, I'm not going to call you on it.

You've taken me to task before when you thought I overstepped my bounds.

I'm just a little mystified as to why you don't hold others to the same standard.

In my real life world, my friends and I stick together, but we also sort of act as a 'check and balance' system for each other. If you get what I mean.

And that is wrong. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. I personally have never held someone accountable for doing X yet turned a blind to it if my friend does it. I hold my friend just as accountable, including myself, for that matter.

I guess you didn't get what I meant.

[Heracles 417]

VW's point was not illogical. It simply does not flow with conventional Kumbaya PC bull #######. Her point is as valid as the FACT that certain black Americans will vote for Obama solely because he is black.

See there? How hard was that? You stated it simply and succinctly without inflammatory talk.

I think that's all anybody is asking.

If we can't have that - well then hey, don't get your panties all bunched up if we give it right back!

I cannot see how VW's last post, for example, was inflammatory. Quite the contrary actually.

Not, I can't see my insults anymore than you can. I can play that game, too. I can also be a pseudo-psychoanalyst.

My opinion is that you feel that your ability to decipher an argument and to argue a point is superior to most, thus, you make demands on others that you can't meet or exceed for yourself. As to whether that necessarily makes you think you're a better person, I'm not sure. I actually think it's a little sad, I think you're one of those people who doesn't command much attention in real life and so, by continually insisting that people you feel competitive with meet arbitrary and totally subjective measurements intended to gain your approval, you try to create a bigger, better version of yourself online to help bolster your ego. Why else would you think anyone would care to cater to your artificial and self-serving demands? If you fail to see the point of a post, who should you expect to be your crutch when you can't keep up on your own? It's you who needs to save your face, no one else.

No one else I know is trying to make out they are some kind of logic genius and I only wind you up because you keep trying to define yourself as the final arbitor of coherence and pretending to be above it all. It's such a desperate self promoted effort with no basis in truth. You haven't earned the credibility to demand logic and coherence, that's because you haven't offered any evidence that you can discern it for yourself. I see your ego unravelling a bit when challenged and that's exactly when you began your transparent pretense that you know how someone feels, how defeated they are, when you can't deliver half of what you exprect from those who confront. You need to earn the respect you seek, not pretend that it's just owed to you. There's nothing so special about you that anyone needs to jump thru hoops for. You're just one of a miserable group of pretenders.

Hit the nail on the head there..

Edited September 23, 2008 by Aficionado

[rebeccajo 14]

VW's point was not illogical. It simply does not flow with conventional Kumbaya PC bull #######. Her point is as valid as the FACT that certain black Americans will vote for Obama solely because he is black.

See there? How hard was that? You stated it simply and succinctly without inflammatory talk.

I think that's all anybody is asking.

If we can't have that - well then hey, don't get your panties all bunched up if we give it right back!

I cannot see how VW's last post, for example, was inflammatory. Quite the contrary actually.

Not, I can't see my insults anymore than you can. I can play that game, too. I can also be a pseudo-psychoanalyst.

My opinion is that you feel that your ability to decipher an argument and to argue a point is superior to most, thus, you make demands on others that you can't meet or exceed for yourself. As to whether that necessarily makes you think you're a better person, I'm not sure. I actually think it's a little sad, I think you're one of those people who doesn't command much attention in real life and so, by continually insisting that people you feel competitive with meet arbitrary and totally subjective measurements intended to gain your approval, you try to create a bigger, better version of yourself online to help bolster your ego. Why else would you think anyone would care to cater to your artificial and self-serving demands? If you fail to see the point of a post, who should you expect to be your crutch when you can't keep up on your own? It's you who needs to save your face, no one else.

No one else I know is trying to make out they are some kind of logic genius and I only wind you up because you keep trying to define yourself as the final arbitor of coherence and pretending to be above it all. It's such a desperate self promoted effort with no basis in truth. You haven't earned the credibility to demand logic and coherence, that's because you haven't offered any evidence that you can discern it for yourself. I see your ego unravelling a bit when challenged and that's exactly when you began your transparent pretense that you know how someone feels, how defeated they are, when you can't deliver half of what you exprect from those who confront. You need to earn the respect you seek, not pretend that it's just owed to you. There's nothing so special about you that anyone needs to jump thru hoops for. You're just one of a miserable group of pretenders.

She keeps the inflammatory talk out of it, yes.

While continuing to remind the person she's speaking to that she belives they don't have a lick of sense.

And that pretender thing - that's just rich.

[Heracles 417]

rebeccajo you are not guilty of it but there are plenty who are. VW's post is 100% spot on there. No one with right wing views can make a post without any of VW's points applying. Such posters are basically cornered off, bullied and harassed into submission. Or until they basically give up and leave.

The posters VW is referring to definitely fit into the troll category of:

• Posting to obtain emotional response from posters outside 'the groups' views.
• Always posting the same worn-out rebuttals in response to posters they know they do not agree with.
• Never answer questions directed at them but demand others answer their own.
• Never rationalize their position but claim the other posters are illogical.
• Always, and I mean always, demanded documentary evidence from others to support their assertions, while offering none of their own.
• Always claim it is the other poster is fabricating their accusation of being bullied or harassed.

Edited September 23, 2008 by Aficionado

[rebeccajo 14]

rebeccajo you are not guilty of it but there are plenty who are. VW's post is 100% spot on there. No one with right wing views can make a post without any of VW's points applying. Such posters are basically cornered off, bullied and harassed into submission. Or until they basically give up and leave.

The posters VW is referring to definitely fit into the troll category of:

• Posting to obtain emotional response from posters outside 'the groups' views.
• Always posting the same worn-out rebuttals in response to posters they know they do not agree with.
• Never answer questions directed at them but demand others answer their own.
• Never rationalize their position but claim the other posters are illogical.
• Always, and I mean always, demanded documentary evidence from others to support their assertions, while offering none of their own.
• Always claim it is the other poster is fabricating their accusation of being bullied or harassed.

I think you're painting everybody with a really broad brush. Everybody. Including myself.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

rebeccajo you are not guilty of it but there are plenty who are. VW's post is 100% spot on there. No one with right wing views can make a post without any of VW's points applying. Such posters are basically cornered off, bullied and harassed into submission. Or until they basically give up and leave.

The posters VW is referring to definitely fit into the troll category of:

• Posting to obtain emotional response from posters outside 'the groups' views.
• Always posting the same worn-out rebuttals in response to posters they know they do not agree with.
• Never answer questions directed at them but demand others answer their own.
• Never rationalize their position but claim the other posters are illogical.
• Always, and I mean always, demanded documentary evidence from others to support their assertions, while offering none of their own.
• Always claim it is the other poster is fabricating their accusation of being bullied or harassed.

I think you're painting everybody with a really broad brush. Everybody. Including myself.

What else is new...

As I keep saying - people disagree with individuals, not with types. Yet still this illusion persists of liberal hatchet teams. It doesn't get any sillier...

It does actually...

You could always go to the other forum and make off color remarks about people's spouses. Works for Boo-Yah

[Heracles 417]

What else is new...

As I keep saying - people disagree with individuals, not with types. Yet still this illusion persists of liberal hatchet teams. It doesn't get any sillier...

It does actually...

You could always go to the other forum and make off color remarks about people's spouses. Works for Boo-Yah

Yeah yeah yeah. Same old bull ####### from # 6. One of the main offenders described above.

PS Trolling point stated above just proven. So the evidence you always demand. Here it is, your post..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If it was bull ####### that would mean I'd be lying about it. I'm not lying.

You did go on an insult spree last night that included people's relatives and spouses.

No sense of proportion.

[Heracles 417]

If it was bull ####### that would mean I'd be lying about it. I'm not lying.

You did go on an insult spree last night that included people's relatives and spouses.

No sense of proportion.

Not with you guys mate.

The following post is a spot on description of your style of posting, as well as PH's..

Not, I can't see my insults anymore than you can. I can play that game, too. I can also be a pseudo-psychoanalyst.

My opinion is that you feel that your ability to decipher an argument and to argue a point is superior to most, thus, you make demands on others that you can't meet or exceed for yourself. As to whether that necessarily makes you think you're a better person, I'm not sure. I actually think it's a little sad, I think you're one of those people who doesn't command much attention in real life and so, by continually insisting that people you feel competitive with meet arbitrary and totally subjective measurements intended to gain your approval, you try to create a bigger, better version of yourself online to help bolster your ego. Why else would you think anyone would care to cater to your artificial and self-serving demands? If you fail to see the point of a post, who should you expect to be your crutch when you can't keep up on your own? It's you who needs to save your face, no one else.

No one else I know is trying to make out they are some kind of logic genius and I only wind you up because you keep trying to define yourself as the final arbitor of coherence and pretending to be above it all. It's such a desperate self promoted effort with no basis in truth. You haven't earned the credibility to demand logic and coherence, that's because you haven't offered any evidence that you can discern it for yourself. I see your ego unravelling a bit when challenged and that's exactly when you began your transparent pretense that you know how someone feels, how defeated they are, when you can't deliver half of what you exprect from those who confront. You need to earn the respect you seek, not pretend that it's just owed to you. There's nothing so special about you that anyone needs to jump thru hoops for. You're just one of a miserable group of pretenders.

Edited September 23, 2008 by Aficionado

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Sure. Why make your own arguments when you can hide behind someone else's

[Heracles 417]

Sure. Why make your own arguments when you can hide behind someone else's

Yep that must be it. You uncovered my conspiracy. That is, there are actually people out there who don't agree with the groups line of thought. I know amazing hey..

Once again, funny how this theory of yours does not apply to others with similar views on your side of the fence. Apparently those views are all unique and individualistic.

Edited September 23, 2008 by Aficionado