What Is the Topic?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What was the question again?

[Marilyn. 340]

What was the question again?

I think it was, "is Aj a nice guy??"

[one...two...tree 2,762]

What was the question again?

What about having regional chat rooms, but dissolving the regional subforums as they exist?

[Marilyn. 340]

What was the question again?

What about having regional chat rooms, but dissolving the regional subforums as they exist?

some people don't like chat-rooms...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No regional anything. No chat rooms, no sub forums. Mingle or die.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

No regional anything. No chat rooms, no sub forums. Mingle or die.

God wants you to stfu. Obey.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No regional anything. No chat rooms, no sub forums. Mingle or die.

God wants you to stfu. Obey.

Ok, I get it. Whatever.

[Chuckles 0]

I think regardless of any organizer's personal opinions on the matter, the above guidelines need to be followed by all until there happens to be a change in the policy.

I agree. And I just want to reiterate that even after reading the rules, if you (generic you) can justify moving a thread out of a regional forum...is it really necessary? I think in 99% of the cases it's a solution with no problem.

The regional forums are really just a subset of the rest of the site, condensed down into groups of people with a common regional interest. We don't have an off-topic sub-forum, we have off-topic threads. We don't have a "Case status" sub-forum, we have threads with case status. It's a system that just works. We resent somebody who has never even given us the courtesy of finding out how things are done in our forum, coming in and making arbitrary decisions about content we ourselves generated, even if you are just "enforcing" the rules. If we need enforcement, we will call you.

Anyway, I know the problem has been addressed, and I appreciate everyone's help in clearing things up. I just want to make the point that just because you CAN move a thread, even under the rules, doesn't mean you necessarily should.

It might be a system that works for those using the particular forum, but it really doesn't work very well for the whole of the site. New and infrequent users of the site don't use the Regionals - they look for information in the upper forums.

I would wager a guess that if we could see the data for the number of users in a particular regional forum vs. upper category forums, you'd find those users to be a much lower number. Information needs to be where the greatest number of users can find it.

Somewhat to the contrary, I think about 1/2 the current users would not go to the upper forums, but just stop using the site completly, if the regionals were done away with.

Alot of people come back when they are "done" to keep posting in their region of interest, and also do a little help. Getting rid of forums would just make them go away.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

That's pretty cool, but knowing these folks, they are going to want the best of both worlds... go figure...

Hmmm...well actually "these folks" were just fine and happy with being left the f*** alone until some fascist came along and arbitrarily carpet bombed the forums.

Mox for Prez!!! :thumbs:

And there is part of my point well illustrated. Way to go you two... That's the spirit...

[mox 298]

And there is part of my point well illustrated. Way to go you two... That's the spirit...

Wait wut?

[rebeccajo 14]

I think regardless of any organizer's personal opinions on the matter, the above guidelines need to be followed by all until there happens to be a change in the policy.

I agree. And I just want to reiterate that even after reading the rules, if you (generic you) can justify moving a thread out of a regional forum...is it really necessary? I think in 99% of the cases it's a solution with no problem.

The regional forums are really just a subset of the rest of the site, condensed down into groups of people with a common regional interest. We don't have an off-topic sub-forum, we have off-topic threads. We don't have a "Case status" sub-forum, we have threads with case status. It's a system that just works. We resent somebody who has never even given us the courtesy of finding out how things are done in our forum, coming in and making arbitrary decisions about content we ourselves generated, even if you are just "enforcing" the rules. If we need enforcement, we will call you.

Anyway, I know the problem has been addressed, and I appreciate everyone's help in clearing things up. I just want to make the point that just because you CAN move a thread, even under the rules, doesn't mean you necessarily should.

It might be a system that works for those using the particular forum, but it really doesn't work very well for the whole of the site. New and infrequent users of the site don't use the Regionals - they look for information in the upper forums.

I would wager a guess that if we could see the data for the number of users in a particular regional forum vs. upper category forums, you'd find those users to be a much lower number. Information needs to be where the greatest number of users can find it.

Somewhat to the contrary, I think about 1/2 the current users would not go to the upper forums, but just stop using the site completly, if the regionals were done away with.

Alot of people come back when they are "done" to keep posting in their region of interest, and also do a little help. Getting rid of forums would just make them go away.

So? The membership of VJ has gotten entireley too large as it is, at least under the current construct. If things are left as they are, the site will melt down on its own eventually. The site is not functioning as it should and by and large, chaos is the rule. Despite the Regionals being in place, they do NOT make it easier to find correct information. Instead what you find is conflicting information.

Marilyn - you and your Canadian buddies found each other before the Regionals existed. Ewok has added the filter since then to make it even easier for people to find each other. Why is there any reason to believe that people wouldn't be able to find each other like they did in the 'old days'?

Rebeccajo..

Why did you ignore my PM? That was unusual... Hmmm...

~Sheriff Uling

Because while I support your idealogical concept of creating more unity, I don't support doing it by pi$$ing people off.

Edited September 26, 2008 by rebeccajo

[tmma 467]

Who exactly do the Regional forums tick off? Is it the members of such forums or the Moderators/Organizers?

It's my [humble] opinion that if the participants of said forums like them and continue to visit VJ for those forums and interaction with pals---what's the problem?

.....or am I misunderstanding something?

[tmma 467]

So? The membership of VJ has gotten entireley too large as it is, at least under the current construct. If things are left as they are, the site will melt down on its own eventually. The site is not functioning as it should and by and large, chaos is the rule. Despite the Regionals being in place, they do NOT make it easier to find correct information. Instead what you find is conflicting information.

Marilyn - you and your Canadian buddies found each other before the Regionals existed. Ewok has added the filter since then to make it even easier for people to find each other. Why is there any reason to believe that people wouldn't be able to find each other like they did in the 'old days'?

How will the site melt down? Who says the site "should function" by what you call " correctly"? ( not being argumentative, but honestly wondering). Maybe what one person thinks how the site should be is NOT the same as others see it or use the site.....Lots of the membership is clearly saying they do not want the Regionals eliminating....And the site is primarily here for the members in whatever way they chose to use it...be it info finding or contact with those they have geography in common with. If someone has a K-1 etc question...it's not that hard to find the K-1 forum...etc.

[almaty 19]

you tell them little sis!!!

[rebeccajo 14]

So? The membership of VJ has gotten entireley too large as it is, at least under the current construct. If things are left as they are, the site will melt down on its own eventually. The site is not functioning as it should and by and large, chaos is the rule. Despite the Regionals being in place, they do NOT make it easier to find correct information. Instead what you find is conflicting information.

Marilyn - you and your Canadian buddies found each other before the Regionals existed. Ewok has added the filter since then to make it even easier for people to find each other. Why is there any reason to believe that people wouldn't be able to find each other like they did in the 'old days'?

How will the site melt down? Who says the site "should function" by what you call " correctly"? ( not being argumentative, but honestly wondering). Maybe what one person thinks how the site should be is NOT the same as others see it or use the site.....Lots of the membership is clearly saying they do not want the Regionals eliminating....And the site is primarily here for the members in whatever way they chose to use it...be it info finding or contact with those they have geography in common with. If someone has a K-1 etc question...it's not that hard to find the K-1 forum...etc.

You've got your opinon and I have mine.

There's no reason for you to 'honestly wonder' what I mean. I've stated my reasons clearly throughout the thread.