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[tmma 467]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Well, of course it is. There isn't anything wrong with that.

The site was created, it's helped alot of people--Someone put a lot of time and effort into creating it--so what if money is made off of it ( after all it's not the 1st immigration website to make money-or be into advertising...and IMO there is another website that's even MORE heavily into advertising than VJ)...is that wrong too? If THAT website has regional forums has anyone said they need to remove it's regional forums?

Back On Topic....

Still begs the question, why remove something that some of the members enjoy?

Edited September 26, 2008 by tmma

[Jenn! 918]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Of course! Please refer to my post #22.

[Otto 83]

It's not like there aren't probably about at least 1000 other websites where the PI members couldn't go to speak Tagalog.

Or Russian, German, Spanis, etc..etc..

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Well, of course it is. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Did I say there is?

Money is good #######.

[rebeccajo 14]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Well, of course it is. There isn't anything wrong with that.

The site was created, it's helped alot of people--Someone put a lot of time and effort into creating it--so what if money is made off of it ( after all it's not the 1st immigration website to make money-or be into advertising...and IMO there is another website that's even MORE heavily into advertising than VJ)...is that wrong too? If THAT website has regional forums has anyone said they need to remove it's regional forums?

Back On Topic....

Still begs the question, why remove something that some of the members enjoy?

Like I said before M, I've clearly stated my reasons in this thread.

If you're bored today and looking for someone to argue with, I'd suggest you take it to your usual source of entertainment - the Regional Forums.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... why remove something that some of the members enjoy?

There is no good reason to. The purpose of VJ is to make someone money, not to disseminate immigration information. When people have fun, they stick around. Ka-ching! Win-win for everyone.

I mean, seriously, if you wanted to learn about immigration, you'd go to USCIS.GOV (and if you're too retarded to read that site you'd hire a lawyer).

[tmma 467]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Well, of course it is. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Did I say there is?

Money is good #######.

No you didn't...I was responding to the winkie smiley....Came across to me that it was meaning something like it was some big, nasty secret that VJ paid for itself somehow.

And I agree w/you.

Money is GOOD! Making money, spending money, saving money......I don't care what anyone thinks about this-but we live in a capitalist society, making money IS a good thing! I like it anyway. ( I'll probably get called shallow now), but I don't care...I reap the rewards of 9 years at college, military service, self investment and decent fiscal planning on mine and Mark's immigration. So if Ewok is reaping a penny or two out of the traffic on VJ-more power to him is what I say.

[rebeccajo 14]

... why remove something that some of the members enjoy?

There is no good reason to. The purpose of VJ is to make someone money, not to disseminate immigration information. When people have fun, they stick around. Ka-ching! Win-win for everyone.

I mean, seriously, if you wanted to learn about immigration, you'd go to USCIS.GOV (and if you're too retarded to read that site you'd hire a lawyer).

Lawyers! Oh noes!! You should never hire a lawyer!! They are all thieves!

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Money is GOOD! Making money, spending money, saving money......I don't care what anyone thinks about this-but we live in a capitalist society, making money IS a good thing! I like it anyway. ( I'll probably get called shallow now), but I don't care...

I agree. I fvckin love money.

[tmma 467]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Well, of course it is. There isn't anything wrong with that.

The site was created, it's helped alot of people--Someone put a lot of time and effort into creating it--so what if money is made off of it ( after all it's not the 1st immigration website to make money-or be into advertising...and IMO there is another website that's even MORE heavily into advertising than VJ)...is that wrong too? If THAT website has regional forums has anyone said they need to remove it's regional forums?

Back On Topic....

Still begs the question, why remove something that some of the members enjoy?

Like I said before M, I've clearly stated my reasons in this thread.

If you're bored today and looking for someone to argue with, I'd suggest you take it to your usual source of entertainment - the Regional Forums.

You have stated reasons, and I am responding to them, that's all.

I told you I was not being argumentative, clearly I didn't realize that your comments cannot be quoted or you cannot be asked to expound upon them without you accusing of me "looking for an arguement". I am not.

Personally I don't hang out in the Regional forums, or try and get "entertainment" from fighting online (well, not on VJ anyway).

Money is GOOD! Making money, spending money, saving money......I don't care what anyone thinks about this-but we live in a capitalist society, making money IS a good thing! I like it anyway. ( I'll probably get called shallow now), but I don't care...

I agree. I fvckin love money.

ME TOO!!!

[rebeccajo 14]

Agreed, the bottom line at VJ is to keep ad revenue pouring in. Anything that reduces membership is a no-go.

Of course! Please refer to my post #22.

Boy.

Was I stupid.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... why remove something that some of the members enjoy?

There is no good reason to. The purpose of VJ is to make someone money, not to disseminate immigration information. When people have fun, they stick around. Ka-ching! Win-win for everyone.

I mean, seriously, if you wanted to learn about immigration, you'd go to USCIS.GOV (and if you're too retarded to read that site you'd hire a lawyer).

Lawyers! Oh noes!! You should never hire a lawyer!! They are all thieves!

Well some people are just too stupid to DIY.

[mox 298]

So what would be wrong with Russian and British threads?

I think this would be bad for one of the reasons you're opposed to regional forums, in that it would be even more difficult to find information. If you've got multiple topics happening in a single thread, it's a mess. And if you've got multiple region-specific threads ("China: Share your recipes here!", "China: Footbinding tips!", "China: Oh noes we got denied!") going on in a single forum, then you might as well have sub-forums.

The suggestion I've offered up before (as an alternative IF the Regionals were dissolved) would be to create an "Around the World" forum for cultural postings. I'm sure Russian and British and Muslim and Phillipina and lactos intollerant threads would evolve. In that environment, though, I believe there would be less likelihood of people isolating themselves. And I do think this isolation occurs quite by accident in many cases.

I actually like this idea...I think it would work well in addition to regional forums. I for one would participate in both a regional and a world forum. It would be a great place to go for filers who had made a lot of friends in the "<month> Filers" threads from the status reports sub-forum and want to keep up with them.

I agree with you that people tend to isolate themselves into the regional forums. I don't know to what extent that is a problem, or if it is even really a problem, but I do agree that there is some self-imposed isolation going on, of which I myself am guilty. How this affects the health and vitality of the VJ community is something that should be looked at carefully.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

We self-impose isolation on ourselves in the real world too, it's how people generally are.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

We self-impose isolation on ourselves in the real world too, it's how people generally are.