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Friday, September 19, 2008

In an appearance in Nevada, anti-gun presidential candidate Barack Obama told his followers:

"I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said.

"And if they tell you that, 'Well, we're not sure where he stands on guns.' I want you to say, 'He believes in the Second Amendment.'" (http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8999386&nav=168XYT17)

Barack Obama has gone beyond lying about his long anti-gun record. Now he is inciting his followers to lie for him and to be aggressive and confrontational with anyone who will not buy his lies.

The truth must scare Obama, and the truth is, Barack Obama is the most anti-gun candidate who has ever run on a major party ticket in American history. Don't buy Obama's lies. Or the lies repeated by his misguided followers.

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"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
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March 16, 2006



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I like the title. Is rabble rouser another term for community organizer? :lol: The great transcender of racial, ideological, and political divisions continues to inspire all who don't want him to be president. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

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Community Organizer is capitalized on his resume..... get it straight. ;)

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

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The NRA riles against Obama - now there's a surprise. :rolleyes:

If he is repeating outright lies about his stance on guns, I don't see why not. Regardless of the cause, questioning a presidential candidate's veracity is a duty, not a luxury.

BTW, I do not support the NRA, believe the Second Amendment should not be interpreted as allowing civilians to have a gun without being part of "a well-regulated militia", and generally support Senator Obama's previously stated position.

So why doesn't he just stick to his guns? (Bad pun intended)

Don't interrupt me when I'm talking to myself

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The NRA riles against Obama - now there's a surprise. :rolleyes:

If he is repeating outright lies about his stance on guns, I don't see why not. Regardless of the cause, questioning a presidential candidate's veracity is a duty, not a luxury.

BTW, I do not support the NRA, believe the Second Amendment should not be interpreted as allowing civilians to have a gun without being part of "a well-regulated militia", and generally support Senator Obama's previously stated position.

So why doesn't he just stick to his guns? (Bad pun intended)

an honest answer. Sweet.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
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The NRA riles against Obama - now there's a surprise. :rolleyes:

If he is repeating outright lies about his stance on guns, I don't see why not. Regardless of the cause, questioning a presidential candidate's veracity is a duty, not a luxury.

BTW, I do not support the NRA, believe the Second Amendment should not be interpreted as allowing civilians to have a gun without being part of "a well-regulated militia", and generally support Senator Obama's previously stated position.

So why doesn't he just stick to his guns? (Bad pun intended)

Like any other politician he has to be all things to all people to get the most votes. In much the same way that John McCain (previously reviled by elements of his own party for not being Conservative enough) is courting the religious fundamentalist faction of his party.

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(from On The Issues)

Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws

Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?

A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.

Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?

A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.

Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008

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It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you've got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets. Source: 2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas Jan 15, 2008

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I like the title. Is rabble rouser another term for community organizer? :lol: The great transcender of racial, ideological, and political divisions continues to inspire all who don't want him to be president. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

As I have said before in a previous post, a Community Organizer is really a nondescript title for a communist who faffs about annoying the unemployed, and then registers them to vote.

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I like the title. Is rabble rouser another term for community organizer? :lol: The great transcender of racial, ideological, and political divisions continues to inspire all who don't want him to be president. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

As I have said before in a previous post, a Community Organizer is really a nondescript title for a communist who faffs about annoying the unemployed, and then registers them to vote.

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I like the title. Is rabble rouser another term for community organizer? :lol: The great transcender of racial, ideological, and political divisions continues to inspire all who don't want him to be president. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

As I have said before in a previous post, a Community Organizer is really a nondescript title for a communist who faffs about annoying the unemployed, and then registers them to vote.

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you think Obama the commie is a load of old BS too ?

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The NRA riles against Obama - now there's a surprise. :rolleyes:

If he is repeating outright lies about his stance on guns, I don't see why not. Regardless of the cause, questioning a presidential candidate's veracity is a duty, not a luxury.

BTW, I do not support the NRA, believe the Second Amendment should not be interpreted as allowing civilians to have a gun without being part of "a well-regulated militia", and generally support Senator Obama's previously stated position.

So why doesn't he just stick to his guns? (Bad pun intended)

Great post. But I think Obama was referring to the fact that although the 2nd amendment and personal rights to owning a gun should be upheld, we also have a responsibility to make sure that gun ownership is responsible too. Maybe I've misread the information (not just this thread but other information on the issue) but I get the feeling he is saying that upholding the Constitution is essential while at the same time attempting to educate the public on how not being responsible with your gun is the problem.

you think Obama the commie is a load of old BS too ?

Why is he a commie?

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I like the title. Is rabble rouser another term for community organizer? :lol: The great transcender of racial, ideological, and political divisions continues to inspire all who don't want him to be president. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

As I have said before in a previous post, a Community Organizer is really a nondescript title for a communist who faffs about annoying the unemployed, and then registers them to vote.

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you think Obama the commie is a load of old BS too ?

I think you're full of sh!t calling Democrats communist. That's as offensive as calling someone a nazi. Do you get some kind of personal satisfaction being deliberately dishonest?

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The NRA riles against Obama - now there's a surprise. :rolleyes:

If he is repeating outright lies about his stance on guns, I don't see why not. Regardless of the cause, questioning a presidential candidate's veracity is a duty, not a luxury.

BTW, I do not support the NRA, believe the Second Amendment should not be interpreted as allowing civilians to have a gun without being part of "a well-regulated militia", and generally support Senator Obama's previously stated position.

So why doesn't he just stick to his guns? (Bad pun intended)

I don't see that he doesn't. Believing in the second amendment and believing that not every yahoo should be running around on our streets packed can go hand in hand. Now, if Obama was to say that he believes in the interpretation of the second amendment as the fundis at the NRA see it, then I would say he's lying. Needless to say, I haven't heard him make that statement just yet.

I think he's a commie, too. The way he's got his minions intent on (more) forced distribution of wealth and shutting down free speech when it opposes him is a hint. So sue me.

Sue you? You're just ignorant, that's not against the law. ;)

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