Poll: Parents prefer Obama over McCain as child's teacher

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In poll of pet owners, McCain tops Obama

An AP-Yahoo News poll found that pet owners favor McCain over Obama 42 percent to 37 percent, with dog owners particularly in McCain's corner.

"I think a person who owns a pet is a more compassionate person -- caring, giving, trustworthy. I like pet owners," said Janet Taylor of Plymouth, Mass.

Taylor, who described herself as a retired stay-at-home wife, owns two cats, Lady Jane Taylor and Mr. Tommy Katz.

Richard Powell, 79, of Spokane, Wash., whose dog passed away last fall, said if a person owns a pet, that "tells you that they're responsible at least for something, for the care of something."

He said pet ownership wouldn't make a difference in his vote, but if a president owns a pet, "I'm glad to know they like animals." ...

The poll found that among people who don't have pets, Obama leads McCain 48 percent to 34 percent...

Dog owners lean toward McCain, 43 percent to 34 percent, while cat owners basically divide their loyalties with 41 percent for McCain and 38 percent for Obama.

[Sister Fracas 5]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Is anyone else sick and tired about hearing how he was a POW? Or is THAT Anti-American now too?

Edited September 19, 2008 by Sister Fracas

[SteveLaura 0]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Is anyone else sick and tired about hearing how he was a POW? Or is THAT Anti-American now too?

I think we should hear more about his pets, quite frankly:

He has a veritable menagerie, including Sam the English springer spaniel, Coco the mutt, turtles Cuff and Link, Oreo the black and white cat, a ferret, three parakeets and a bunch of saltwater fish.

Obama, on the other hand

doesn't have a pet, though he has promised his daughters a dog after the election, win or lose.

Source

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Is anyone else sick and tired about hearing how he was a POW? Or is THAT Anti-American now too?

Yup - I think it was overplayed at the RNC too.

A military record doesn't provide the man with any special qualifications to be competent in government.

Ulysses S. Grant anyone? Won the civil war but as President he presided over an incredibly corrupt administration.

Edited September 19, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[Sister Fracas 5]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Is anyone else sick and tired about hearing how he was a POW? Or is THAT Anti-American now too?

I think we should hear more about his pets, quite frankly:

He has a veritable menagerie, including Sam the English springer spaniel, Coco the mutt, turtles Cuff and Link, Oreo the black and white cat, a ferret, three parakeets and a bunch of saltwater fish.

Obama, on the other hand

doesn't have a pet, though he has promised his daughters a dog after the election, win or lose.

Source

Cuff and Link.... LOL

[alienlovechild 75]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Being born black or half-black isn't an achievement in itself. That's what the quote is talking about.

If the guy polled said Obama is more open-minded because he grew up in different settings, was multiracial and had the opportunity that come with a higher education, ok. The just because he's black doesn't mean shaat.

I met my share of narrow-minded black, white and whatever color types in life so I don't any group as especially enlightened.

The fact 90% of blacks vote Dem nearly every election tells me they aren't too open minded politically.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Is anyone else sick and tired about hearing how he was a POW? Or is THAT Anti-American now too?

I think we should hear more about his pets, quite frankly:

He has a veritable menagerie, including Sam the English springer spaniel, Coco the mutt, turtles Cuff and Link, Oreo the black and white cat, a ferret, three parakeets and a bunch of saltwater fish.

Obama, on the other hand

doesn't have a pet, though he has promised his daughters a dog after the election, win or lose.

Source

I think too much time has been spent on Sarah Palin's hairstyle and glasses - we need mroe of an emphasis on McCain's prodigious collection of golf shirts, not to mention his tipple of choice.

[HAL 9000 96]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Being born black or half-black isn't an achievement in itself. That's what the quote is talking about.

If the guy polled said Obama is more open-minded because he grew up in different settings, was multiracial and had the opportunity that come with a higher education, ok. The just because he's black doesn't mean shaat.

I met my share of narrow-minded black, white and whatever color types in life so I don't any group as especially enlightened.

The fact 90% of blacks vote Dem nearly every election tells me they aren't too open minded politically.

Or that perhaps the Democratic party is more consonant with what they may perceive to be issues important to them. Much like rich tax-evaders have more of a knack for some Republican platforms.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

People think that being a POW gives insight to things that others do not have. Some think that being a mother gives a unique insight as well. Why would you exclude being black from that?

Being born black or half-black isn't an achievement in itself. That's what the quote is talking about.

If the guy polled said Obama is more open-minded because he grew up in different settings, was multiracial and had the opportunity that come with a higher education, ok. The just because he's black doesn't mean shaat.

I met my share of narrow-minded black, white and whatever color types in life so I don't any group as especially enlightened.

The fact 90% of blacks vote Dem nearly every election tells me they aren't too open minded politically.

Or that perhaps the Democratic party is more consonant with what they may perceive to be issues important to them. Much like rich tax-evaders have more of a knack for some Republican platforms.

touche, brother Mav.

[alienlovechild 75]

Or that perhaps the Democratic party is more consonant with what they may perceive to be issues important to them. Much like rich tax-evaders have more of a knack for some Republican platforms.

False comparison. As far as I know rich tax-evaders aren't considered a voting bloc. It's unlikely they will show up at a convention given the IRS is looking for them. I haven't heard about Obama closing tax loopholes so the rich tax evaders can still avoid taxes under Obama.

It could be blacks agree with the Dems values but the reality the Dems take the black vote as a given so they really don't have much political power.

[HAL 9000 96]

Or that perhaps the Democratic party is more consonant with what they may perceive to be issues important to them. Much like rich tax-evaders have more of a knack for some Republican platforms.

False comparison. As far as I know rich tax-evaders aren't considered a voting bloc. It's unlikely they will show up at a convention given the IRS is looking for them. I haven't heard about Obama closing tax loopholes so the rich tax evaders can still avoid taxes under Obama.

It could be blacks agree with the Dems values but the reality the Dems take the black vote as a given so they really don't have much political power.

Perhaps a false comparison for you to swallow- but it can't any more real than that. Republicans offer tax breaks primarily for the rich. Hence, they get rich votes. Democrats offer more access to opportunities for the historically disenfranchised, and hence they get black (et al) votes. There's really nothing false about that.

Nevertheless I think the proper language would be a simile, or parallel scenario. Not in as much a comparison where differences exclude the possibility of having similarities.

eta:

By definition I was referring to tax evaders as those that do not want to pay taxes, not the criminals guilty of Federal Tax Evasion Statutes. That coincidentally tend to be rich people.

And yes you are absolutely right about Rich voters not being a voting bloc. They tend to need the political voice of middle class Americans that believe the riches will trickle down to them and that after an 80-hour work week (on a contractual 40 hour work week) they'll be completely successful.

Edited September 19, 2008 by maviwaro

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Or that perhaps the Democratic party is more consonant with what they may perceive to be issues important to them. Much like rich tax-evaders have more of a knack for some Republican platforms.

False comparison. As far as I know rich tax-evaders aren't considered a voting bloc. It's unlikely they will show up at a convention given the IRS is looking for them. I haven't heard about Obama closing tax loopholes so the rich tax evaders can still avoid taxes under Obama.

It could be blacks agree with the Dems values but the reality the Dems take the black vote as a given so they really don't have much political power.

Perhaps a false comparison for you to swallow- but it can't any more real than that. Republicans offer tax breaks primarily for the rich. Hence, they get rich votes. Democrats offer more access to opportunities for the historically disenfranchised, and hence they get black (et al) votes. There's really nothing false about that.

Nevertheless I think the proper language would be a simile, or parallel scenario. Not in as much a comparison where differences exclude the possibility of having similarities.

The Democrats also get hispanic votes, do they not?

[HAL 9000 96]

Or that perhaps the Democratic party is more consonant with what they may perceive to be issues important to them. Much like rich tax-evaders have more of a knack for some Republican platforms.

False comparison. As far as I know rich tax-evaders aren't considered a voting bloc. It's unlikely they will show up at a convention given the IRS is looking for them. I haven't heard about Obama closing tax loopholes so the rich tax evaders can still avoid taxes under Obama.

It could be blacks agree with the Dems values but the reality the Dems take the black vote as a given so they really don't have much political power.

Perhaps a false comparison for you to swallow- but it can't any more real than that. Republicans offer tax breaks primarily for the rich. Hence, they get rich votes. Democrats offer more access to opportunities for the historically disenfranchised, and hence they get black (et al) votes. There's really nothing false about that.

Nevertheless I think the proper language would be a simile, or parallel scenario. Not in as much a comparison where differences exclude the possibility of having similarities.

The Democrats also get hispanic votes, do they not?

Somewhat, yes. Difference is that immigration plays a factor and some come from more affluent backgrounds back home. Hence their ascription to more conservative ideals. But for the most part, the Democratic Party is perceived to be more representative of most minority voters.

[alienlovechild 75]

Perhaps a false comparison for you to swallow- but it can't any more real than that. Republicans offer tax breaks primarily for the rich. Hence, they get rich votes. Democrats offer more access to opportunities for the historically disenfranchised, and hence they get black (et al) votes. There's really nothing false about that.

If the Republicans were only attracting those making over $250 K/yr with tax breaks you'd be right but voting patterns are based on more than tax brackets. That's the old class warfare stuff the Dems dredge up every other year.

Are you implying rich black people vote Republican because they're rich and want a tax break? Ok, James Brown backed Nixon for a tax break but he was the hardest working man in show business.

What opportunities? The Dems social policies are largely credited with being more destructive to black families than the KKK. The Moyihan report outlined that decades ago.

[HAL 9000 96]

Perhaps a false comparison for you to swallow- but it can't any more real than that. Republicans offer tax breaks primarily for the rich. Hence, they get rich votes. Democrats offer more access to opportunities for the historically disenfranchised, and hence they get black (et al) votes. There's really nothing false about that.

If the Republicans were only attracting those making over $250 K/yr with tax breaks you'd be right but voting patterns are based on more than tax brackets. That's the old class warfare stuff the Dems dredge up every other year.

Are you implying rich black people vote Republican because they're rich and want a tax break? Ok, James Brown backed Nixon for a tax break but he was the hardest working man in show business.

What opportunities? The Dems social policies are largely credited with being more destructive to black families than the KKK. The Moyihan report outlined that decades ago.

Hit me!

Of course, Republicans are attracting a lot more than that. Always have and probably always will. Hence my earlier statement that they rely on certain middle class voters that think certain ways. The economy isn't everything, but it sure is to some.

Now if you are referring to the Meynihan Report, here's a link.

At which he concludes at the end:

The policy of the United States is to bring the Negro American to full and equal sharing in the responsibilities and rewards of citizenship. To this end, the programs of the Federal government bearing on this objective shall be designed to have the effect, directly or indirectly, of enhancing the stability and resources of the Negro American family.

The report hardly supports your claim.

Not exactly blaming the Dems is he? And in 1965, do remember that the Dems had factions much more similar to the GOP.

Edited September 19, 2008 by maviwaro