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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: France
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Quick question. There is this part where you have to tell where you traveled and for how long since the last 5 years. I could find the return dates from my passport and had most of the information about the trips in my email, but for years 2003-2005 I could only find the return dates, not the departure dates.

So when I filed the application I added a note explaining why I didn't put the departure date and said that I believed all the trips were around 10-15 days on average for this period.

Is this going to be sufficient? There is no way I can find the real departure dates if they send me the form back. If I receive NOA1 does that mean the form was accepted or can they still send it back after NOA1?

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mattr.

2008

N-400

2008-09-15 Mailed N-400

2008-09-16 Check cashed

2008-09-24 NOA1 received

2008-10-10 BIO

2009-02-12 Interview - passed!

2009-02-18 Oath

2009-02-18 American citizen!

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Does your passport have entry stamps from the foreign country/countries that you visited? Maybe from there you can figure out your departure dates from the US?

08/17/08: Mailed N400 to TSC

08/19/08: USPS attempted delivery

08/20/08: TSC received N400

08/21/08: TSC cashed check

09/02/08: Received NOA...........Priority date: 08/20/08

..............................................Notice date : 08/22/08

09/02/08: Received Biometrics Notification

09/18/08: Biometrics completed - Charlotte DO

10/24/08: Received Interview Letter

12/08/08: Interview @ 1:00pm. APPROVED!

01/05/09: Oath Ceremony 10:00AM. Now officially a USC!!!

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01/17/09: Applied for US Passport and passport card

01/28/09: Received US Passport

01/29/09: Received US passport card

01/29/09: Received naturalization certificate back from passport office

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: France
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Does your passport have entry stamps from the foreign country/countries that you visited? Maybe from there you can figure out your departure dates from the US?

No i'm a French citizen and just visited France, so there is no stamp on my French passport.

2008

N-400

2008-09-15 Mailed N-400

2008-09-16 Check cashed

2008-09-24 NOA1 received

2008-10-10 BIO

2009-02-12 Interview - passed!

2009-02-18 Oath

2009-02-18 American citizen!

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Are you applying based on 3 years married to a US Citizen (in other words, did you check box 2B on the N-400?)

If so, they're only legally concerned with trips outside the US in the past three years, even though that question on the N-400 says five years. And if the official looking at your application finds that a) none of the trips were more than six months long, and B) you spent more than half of the past three years inside the US, then there's not a problem regarding eligibility for naturalization.

Getting NOA1 just means your check was written for the correct amount. They'll look at the details of travel dates and things like that later, maybe not until the interview. It's unlikely they've looked at that part of your form yet, so the fact that you got NOA1 doesn't mean anything good or bad about their thoughts on your travel dates.

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04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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Quick question. There is this part where you have to tell where you traveled and for how long since the last 5 years. I could find the return dates from my passport and had most of the information about the trips in my email, but for years 2003-2005 I could only find the return dates, not the departure dates.

So when I filed the application I added a note explaining why I didn't put the departure date and said that I believed all the trips were around 10-15 days on average for this period.

Is this going to be sufficient? There is no way I can find the real departure dates if they send me the form back. If I receive NOA1 does that mean the form was accepted or can they still send it back after NOA1?

Thanks,

mattr.

You should have records of in/out.

Otherwise if interview officer can not make the judgement because of lack of information at interview, he/she can postpone until he/she get all information he/she wants.

In my cases, I tracked all passport stamps plus my mileage account access to show when I got on the flight for each direction.

Otherwise you have to check with your France government, who handles in/out record for your citizens.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: France
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Quick question. There is this part where you have to tell where you traveled and for how long since the last 5 years. I could find the return dates from my passport and had most of the information about the trips in my email, but for years 2003-2005 I could only find the return dates, not the departure dates.

So when I filed the application I added a note explaining why I didn't put the departure date and said that I believed all the trips were around 10-15 days on average for this period.

Is this going to be sufficient? There is no way I can find the real departure dates if they send me the form back. If I receive NOA1 does that mean the form was accepted or can they still send it back after NOA1?

Thanks,

mattr.

You should have records of in/out.

Otherwise if interview officer can not make the judgement because of lack of information at interview, he/she can postpone until he/she get all information he/she wants.

In my cases, I tracked all passport stamps plus my mileage account access to show when I got on the flight for each direction.

Otherwise you have to check with your France government, who handles in/out record for your citizens.

Thanks for your answers. I'm applying based on 5 years of being a permanent resident. I think the accompanying letter will be sufficient, I hope. I didn't think about checking the mileage account I will do that and get them ready for the interview if United Airlines still has them.

When I go to France there is no record at all, my passport is just checked, not stamped, there is no record of my entry in my country, so I can't get any information from that side. I'm sure i'm not the only one that doesn't have a full record of all the trips done in the last five years!

Thanks for the info about the NOA1, I guess I'll have to wait for the interview, but if they call me for the interview without returning the form for missing info then this will certainly be a good sign :yes: At least I can explain to the IO why I couldn't get any record.

What about getting a letter from my previous manager stating that to his knowledge I've never been out of the country for more than say 20 days at a time and not for a period of 6 months over the 2003-2005 period ? Would that count?

2008

N-400

2008-09-15 Mailed N-400

2008-09-16 Check cashed

2008-09-24 NOA1 received

2008-10-10 BIO

2009-02-12 Interview - passed!

2009-02-18 Oath

2009-02-18 American citizen!

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