I can't meet my fiance what should i do?

[kyle501 0]

I have known my fiance and talked to her for a long time now we met threw her brother who i met on a chat room. I am an american citizen and i am in the military. I am about to start to file the I-129F but i have read many forums about this discusion and i am very discouraged now. My fiance is from morocco and she is muslim her culture does not allow the females to talk to there future husbands. The husband has to go threw the father and the father and mother decide if the male is right for the female. I have talked to her in secret for a long time and we have talked on messenger all the time we are really in love and wanted to get married so i asked her father and they discused it and have agreed to let us marry but we still can not meet but i can bring her to america to marry. I am very dicouraged now and don't know what to do. Also i have thought about going to morocco and meeting her in secret so that we could do this but ounce again i am in the military and my leave to go to morocco has been denied because of terrorist activity there. I would appreciate any help thankyou

[Zee Bee 61]

Hi

As you said, you have read many forums on the meeting requirements and know that it is going to be extremely hard, if not impossible, to get your fiancee here on a K1 without the meeting.

My suggestions:

1. Meet in a third country. You do not have to meet in Morocco, go somewhere else.

2. Get married (Morocco or somewhere else) and file a spousal visa

Good luck.

[Otto 83]

Below is taken directly from the instruction portion of the I-129f. If you can not meet in person, due to customs/culture - be prepared to show proof of that.

2. You and your fiancé(e) intend to marry within 90 days of your fiancé(e) entering the United States, and are both free to marry, and have met in person within two years before your filing of this petition unless:

A. The requirement to meet your fiancé(e) in person would violate strict and long-established customs of your or your fiancé(e)'s foreign culture or social practice;

[kyle501 0]

Hi

As you said, you have read many forums on the meeting requirements and know that it is going to be extremely hard, if not impossible, to get your fiancee here on a K1 without the meeting.

My suggestions:

1. Meet in a third country. You do not have to meet in Morocco, go somewhere else.

2. Get married (Morocco or somewhere else) and file a spousal visa

Good luck.

Thanks for the help but her father would never alow her to leave the county.

[kyle501 0]

Below is taken directly from the instruction portion of the I-129f. If you can not meet in person, due to customs/culture - be prepared to show proof of that.

2. You and your fiancé(e) intend to marry within 90 days of your fiancé(e) entering the United States, and are both free to marry, and have met in person within two years before your filing of this petition unless:

A. The requirement to meet your fiancé(e) in person would violate strict and long-established customs of your or your fiancé(e)'s foreign culture or social practice;

If i can't meet in person how would i show proof of it?

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

I have never heard of the cultural/ religious exception to the 2 year rule being accepted. Since her family are agreeable to the marriage, I think what you need to do is explain the rules for the visa to them; maybe her brother or father can accompany her to a third country so you can meet with a guardian present?

[Aymerlu 3]

Why not go to Morocco and get married there? Moroccan weddings are awesome!

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Can you meet her in elsewhere with her father/mother/whoever acting as a chaperone? Have you checked with your superiors to see if you could go to Morocco, or are you just guessing? We had a poster here a few years ago who was in the army, and she went to Morocco.

It seems very odd to me that her parents would be so protective as to not allow you to meet, but they would have no qualms about sending her away to america sight unseen. I don't mean to be overly suspicious, but something about that doesn't sit the right way with me. Did this come to you directly from their mouths, or did you get that through your fiancee?

While there is a culture/religious exception to the meeting rule, it's rarely allowed. While I don't have a spouse from Morocco, quite a few on this board do, and I'm sure they'd tell you that women usually meet their future husbands before getting married.

[star_dragon 0]

Why not go to Morocco and get married there? Moroccan weddings are awesome!

I think he would have to convert to marry her there. (Of course this is assuming he isn't Muslim)

[caybee 21]

Can you meet her in elsewhere with her father/mother/whoever acting as a chaperone? Have you checked with your superiors to see if you could go to Morocco, or are you just guessing? We had a poster here a few years ago who was in the army, and she went to Morocco.

It seems very odd to me that her parents would be so protective as to not allow you to meet, but they would have no qualms about sending her away to america sight unseen. I don't mean to be overly suspicious, but something about that doesn't sit the right way with me. Did this come to you directly from their mouths, or did you get that through your fiancee?

While there is a culture/religious exception to the meeting rule, it's rarely allowed. While I don't have a spouse from Morocco, quite a few on this board do, and I'm sure they'd tell you that women usually meet their future husbands before getting married.

I have the same questions. And terrorist activity? There were a couple of incidents at least a year and a half ago, although the military might have to exercise a greater level of caution when granting leave. I remember the American woman, active duty military, who visited her fiancé there a few times. We also have at least one American man on VJ who married a Moroccan women. Perhaps he can give some input.

[rebeccajo 14]

Why in the hell would you want to marry someone you haven't met face to face?

You can't even be certain she's female.

[ronjie 0]

I believe he's asking for advice !! thats all....

[brnidokiegurl 0]

When getting our papers there was an american man, getting his papers with a moroccan girl. He was NOW of same religion as you must be for the man they had (met, visited etc) dont know the situation but there they were so it happens. I will ask ahmed how that works but i agree you really do need to meet and know more than on phone and computer....surely if there and always with other family members not alone, you could at least get to know her and family some. I am imagining tho that the family of a moroccan girl will not want her married to anyone but a moroccan and to stay close to home, but thats just my thought maybe far from correct.

[nunyab 0]

ok I am an American Army vet TS clearance still and MI officer. I had to get i cleared with DOD before i went to morocco or anyother place outside of his country. I get debreifed and i am good to go.

My concern just echos the others.... traditonally it is acceptable to meet your fiance.. i am also a mulimah and understand some of the dynamics.

You to can meet but should never be left alone. This is also the time to work on the marriage contract. The only weird thing for me is if they are this strict why they are allowing their muslm (i am assuming here) to be married to a man outside of the religion????

if I were you I would ask a little more.... she may want to "run away" and not have her parents know until it is too late...... because if they are following the traditional Islamic stance... then she cannot marry outside of her religion (am i wrong here??) but you can if you are muslim man.

Good luck.... i try never to judge just to offer advice.

~Rajaa

[morocco4ever 63]

ok I am an American Army vet TS clearance still and MI officer. I had to get i cleared with DOD before i went to morocco or anyother place outside of his country. I get debreifed and i am good to go.

My concern just echos the others.... traditonally it is acceptable to meet your fiance.. i am also a mulimah and understand some of the dynamics.

You to can meet but should never be left alone. This is also the time to work on the marriage contract. The only weird thing for me is if they are this strict why they are allowing their muslm (i am assuming here) to be married to a man outside of the religion????

if I were you I would ask a little more.... she may want to "run away" and not have her parents know until it is too late...... because if they are following the traditional Islamic stance... then she cannot marry outside of her religion (am i wrong here??) but you can if you are muslim man.

Good luck.... i try never to judge just to offer advice.

~Rajaa

I have never heard that they can't meet and talk before marriage, just not alone together. What my thoughts are is that if the family is so strict as to not allow you to meet first then they most certainly would not allow her to marry a non muslim.

The consulate knows the traditions of the countries they represent. If I am right and you can meet in person, then no you won't be able to waive that requirement.