Reason why we are getting screwed

[mrc1330 0]

I noticed something while looking at the processing times on USCIS. VSC and CSC both report more or less the same times but we ALL know that CSC is waaaaay ahead of theirs.. and VSC is not even close to February 2, 2008. However i noticed WHY? VSC processes a specific petition that CSC does not...

The N600.

Clearly an election year, pressure from the candidates, pressure from our own senators who lie to us about how they cant do anything to help us. Its clear that for aliens to be able to vote is more important that family unity. I guess USCIS thinks it's organized in SLAMMING one service center to to do all of the work while the other one approves petitions sent in July. We need to bombard the Ombudsman for ever week that we dont see at least 10 approvals. If we are sad and bothered and frustrated so should they.

[mamalou 0]

I noticed something while looking at the processing times on USCIS. VSC and CSC both report more or less the same times but we ALL know that CSC is waaaaay ahead of theirs.. and VSC is not even close to February 2, 2008. However i noticed WHY? VSC processes a specific petition that CSC does not...

The N600.

Clearly an election year, pressure from the candidates, pressure from our own senators who lie to us about how they cant do anything to help us. Its clear that for aliens to be able to vote is more important that family unity. I guess USCIS thinks it's organized in SLAMMING one service center to to do all of the work while the other one approves petitions sent in July. We need to bombard the Ombudsman for ever week that we dont see at least 10 approvals. If we are sad and bothered and frustrated so should they.

We have the same sentiments, i symphatized those who are waiting for approval like me for so long. My husband & I so desperate already, we dont know really what happen, the waiting continous and it seems like eternity. This week as i noticed has no actviity for vsc, and will continue next week again until Sept will end, then comes Oct. ...will wait n see who will get the lotto jackpot.

[CJ Vasani 0]

I concur...

[MsZ 6]

Some of these people have been waiting a long time to become citizens. Their needs are also important. And they want to be able to have a say in this election. Why shouldn't they? The presidential election only comes once every 4 years. If people believe their vote really counts, they want to cast it. (Whether it really does count is another matter entirely.)

I don't believe bombarding the ombudsman or anyone else is going to produce the kind of movement that you advocate. He's got zero power for one thing, and for another, the right to vote *does* take precidence over family unity by a fair amount in this country.

[siyaram 0]

Some of these people have been waiting a long time to become citizens. Their needs are also important. And they want to be able to have a say in this election. Why shouldn't they? The presidential election only comes once every 4 years. If people believe their vote really counts, they want to cast it. (Whether it really does count is another matter entirely.)

I don't believe bombarding the ombudsman or anyone else is going to produce the kind of movement that you advocate. He's got zero power for one thing, and for another, the right to vote *does* take precidence over family unity by a fair amount in this country.

If they want to continue processing N600 for elections, they are free to do so. But they should have thought of this during the planning for this year. They should have increased their workforce to handle N600 only. Why process those applications at the expense of other? Process those applications as long as the rights of other ALREADY US citizens are not affected. That's my 2 cents.

Edited September 16, 2008 by siyaram

[payxibka 10,047]

You clearly do not understand what the N600 is...

The primary benneficiaries of the N-600 are ones who have not attained the age of majority and therefore are not yet eligible to vote. Therefore N-600 processing push because of an election year are not even closely related.

[Gigli2008 70]

You clearly do not understand what the N600 is...

The primary benneficiaries of the N-600 are ones who have not attained the age of majority and therefore are not yet eligible to vote. Therefore N-600 processing push because of an election year are not even closely related.

You said it.

[mrc1330 0]

Some of these people have been waiting a long time to become citizens. Their needs are also important. And they want to be able to have a say in this election. Why shouldn't they? The presidential election only comes once every 4 years. If people believe their vote really counts, they want to cast it. (Whether it really does count is another matter entirely.)

I don't believe bombarding the ombudsman or anyone else is going to produce the kind of movement that you advocate. He's got zero power for one thing, and for another, the right to vote *does* take precidence over family unity by a fair amount in this country.

Non-citizen petitions should NEVER take precedence over ANY citizens petition regardless if its a petition for permission to blow snot into the wind.

[Monica&Isha 0]

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

Edited September 16, 2008 by Monica&Isha

[cris11 0]

I agree! But they don’t need to transfer staff between them. When the application come to Chicago Lockbox, if the scanning all the paper, then they work by income date, then its doesn’t matter where people live or which service center who are best or not. Everything is more fair play for everyone, that’s how they work in many other countries. But I don’t think they care, at same time we complain about the processing time at same time they work hard with all illegal immigrants,,, to work with legal immigrants are not a priority issue, special not when the economic going down,,, that’s my thoughts

[TayRivers 4]

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

This is so funny reading your posts, if only you had been around a few years back when we first started our journey you would have seen that everyone wanted to have their cases sent to VSC as they were the fastest of them all, they were never behind and all applications for the 100's of visa types were handled in a timely fasion. now things are diffrent and everyone is demanding the VSC should work on their type of case and let others sit waiting.

Have a look around VJ and see how long people who filed for Removal of Conditions are having to wait, well over 1 year. Look at how long people are having to wait for all sorts of benefits at VSC. Some of us at the end of our visa journey have been dealing with this immigration stuff for well over 5 years, so please just stop to think about what you are saying, yes everyone want their part to be approved as soon as possible and finds it frustrating to have to wait, but that is how it works. Some get approved faster than others and there is nothing you or the Ombudsman can do about it.

So pull up a chair and take a seat, you are in for a long ride.

[jamster0105 7]

Some of these people have been waiting a long time to become citizens. Their needs are also important. And they want to be able to have a say in this election. Why shouldn't they? The presidential election only comes once every 4 years. If people believe their vote really counts, they want to cast it. (Whether it really does count is another matter entirely.)

I don't believe bombarding the ombudsman or anyone else is going to produce the kind of movement that you advocate. He's got zero power for one thing, and for another, the right to vote *does* take precidence over family unity by a fair amount in this country.

Non-citizen petitions should NEVER take precedence over ANY citizens petition regardless if its a petition for permission to blow snot into the wind.

I came up with another theory. It's quite possible the political differences from each region might very well have something to do with this.

Take California, for example. It's a huge melting pot (especially SO Cal) and the people, including the politicians, have always been for immigration. Unfortunately, we live in a country where there is a lot of greed, and the need for immigration only fuels the wealthy because they can get away with paying a majority of immigrants a lot less than a natural born USC. So Cal, the Southwest, the Pacific Northwest, and many pockets of the Rocky Mountains along with the midwest all thrive on immigration. Having lived in Phoenix in the past, I had a chance to spend a lot of times in these places.

Now, let's look at the proximity of Vermont. For anyone who knows anything about VT, it's one of the most north eastern states in the US. The city of St. Albans (where VSC is located), is 10 mins south of the Canadian border. It's about as far away from every major city in the US that any other place can be. There is no such thing as a "melting pot" there. It's a small town with hardly a trace of any diversity. It's surrounded by the rural Lake Champlaign region. My point is, the people here live a very relaxed way of life and I find it hard to believe that the ambition to speed through immigrant visa approvals is part of their mindset. Most people in these places are set in their ways. Most of them were born there, just as most of them will spend their entire lives there. Immigration, to these people, don't have any impact on their day to day lives.

Don't get me wrong, I am in no way bashing people in small towns. I happen to be living in one at the moment in North Carolina and I think the people here are great. However, I am a big city guy by birth and I know there is a 180 degree difference in the attitudes from people in big cities versus your traditional rural environment. I don't think it makes it right, but this is the country which we live. Unfortunately, people's political views sometimes overpower them and keep them from doing "the right thing". I hope I am wrong about this. Yet, if I am correct, I hope there are VSC agents reading these blogs and that they know how much pain all of us are going through. We, just like them, have loving families that mean just as much to us as their own families. The only difference is, they get to go home to theirs at night. As for us, we just have to keep playing the waiting game....

May God be with all of us and I am always praying for those in front of me that they will get their approvals anytime now. If we all continue to stick together, we'll get through this!

[Monica&Isha 0]

I did NOT say that VSC should stop doing all other things in order to work only on my case or only on K3s. This would be really silly. Maybe I didn't make myself clear... I don't want people in your situation to suffer just because they are only processing K3s... Same way I don't want us (k3s) to suffer because they are processing any other visa or petition instead! I just said that they could organize themselves not to stop K3s and CR1s from being processed due to the other petitions they have to handle. This is a simple concept, but I don't know what stops them from doing it.

I am very aware that the whole immigration process, until you become a citizen, takes a long time, but honestly that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers me to be thousands of miles far away from my husband for 6 months already. Once I'm with him, I can take the rest of the wait for the other papers. If you are not happy with their delay reagarding your case, you have the right to complain, contact ombudsman, cry, shout, do whatever you feel like doing. Just as we do.

I've pulled up a chair to seat and wait, since there are not many things I can do about it. However, I'm not waiting quiet, because keeping bad feelings inside may cause a lot of serious health problems. This is kind of scientific.

So... don't let your frustrations affect the way you read posts. It is nothing personal. We just wish things were different. Good for everybody...

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

This is so funny reading your posts, if only you had been around a few years back when we first started our journey you would have seen that everyone wanted to have their cases sent to VSC as they were the fastest of them all, they were never behind and all applications for the 100's of visa types were handled in a timely fasion. now things are diffrent and everyone is demanding the VSC should work on their type of case and let others sit waiting.

Have a look around VJ and see how long people who filed for Removal of Conditions are having to wait, well over 1 year. Look at how long people are having to wait for all sorts of benefits at VSC. Some of us at the end of our visa journey have been dealing with this immigration stuff for well over 5 years, so please just stop to think about what you are saying, yes everyone want their part to be approved as soon as possible and finds it frustrating to have to wait, but that is how it works. Some get approved faster than others and there is nothing you or the Ombudsman can do about it.

So pull up a chair and take a seat, you are in for a long ride.

[daboyz 36]

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

This is so funny reading your posts, if only you had been around a few years back when we first started our journey you would have seen that everyone wanted to have their cases sent to VSC as they were the fastest of them all, they were never behind and all applications for the 100's of visa types were handled in a timely fasion. now things are diffrent and everyone is demanding the VSC should work on their type of case and let others sit waiting.

Have a look around VJ and see how long people who filed for Removal of Conditions are having to wait, well over 1 year. Look at how long people are having to wait for all sorts of benefits at VSC. Some of us at the end of our visa journey have been dealing with this immigration stuff for well over 5 years, so please just stop to think about what you are saying, yes everyone want their part to be approved as soon as possible and finds it frustrating to have to wait, but that is how it works. Some get approved faster than others and there is nothing you or the Ombudsman can do about it.

So pull up a chair and take a seat, you are in for a long ride.

That may be true, but at least you were with your SO while waiting for removal of conditions or adjustment of status. I would have no problem waiting for them if my wife was here. The K-3 was implemented so that your spouse could come to the US quicker, and wait for their permanent residency to be approved. That is obviously not the case now that NVC seems to be moving quicker. I'm gong the IR-1 route. I don't want to deal with this again for 10 years.

[cmnb 0]

I did NOT say that VSC should stop doing all other things in order to work only on my case or only on K3s. This would be really silly. Maybe I didn't make myself clear... I don't want people in your situation to suffer just because they are only processing K3s... Same way I don't want us (k3s) to suffer because they are processing any other visa or petition instead! I just said that they could organize themselves not to stop K3s and CR1s from being processed due to the other petitions they have to handle. This is a simple concept, but I don't know what stops them from doing it.

I am very aware that the whole immigration process, until you become a citizen, takes a long time, but honestly that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers me to be thousands of miles far away from my husband for 6 months already. Once I'm with him, I can take the rest of the wait for the other papers. If you are not happy with their delay reagarding your case, you have the right to complain, contact ombudsman, cry, shout, do whatever you feel like doing. Just as we do.

I've pulled up a chair to seat and wait, since there are not many things I can do about it. However, I'm not waiting quiet, because keeping bad feelings inside may cause a lot of serious health problems. This is kind of scientific.

So... don't let your frustrations affect the way you read posts. It is nothing personal. We just wish things were different. Good for everybody...

I don't know exactly what that petition is, or if it has economic or political reasons to be put in front of us. What I know is that VSC should have planned beforehand and organized themselves not to have such a big delay and disparity between them and CSC that is completely unfair. It doesn't matter if they have several other types of petitions to work on, they could have redistributed their tasks or even transferred more people to CSC. There is always a way to be efficient when you plan or have good management of unpredictable situations (which I don't think was the case). I'm not saying they don't know what they are doing, but from what we can see, what they are doing right now is not working properly. CSC seems to be working pretty fine even with the VSC tranfers they have received... So, there is a way to make it work. They just have to put effort on it!

Ah! by the way, someone mentioned something similar to this "election thing" in another thread a few weeks ago, but the discussion brought up the fact that it takes more than 1 month to process that petition, so at this point, people wouldn't be ready to vote anyway! So, why should they bother processing them right now since the people will only be able to vote on the next years...

This is so funny reading your posts, if only you had been around a few years back when we first started our journey you would have seen that everyone wanted to have their cases sent to VSC as they were the fastest of them all, they were never behind and all applications for the 100's of visa types were handled in a timely fasion. now things are diffrent and everyone is demanding the VSC should work on their type of case and let others sit waiting.

Have a look around VJ and see how long people who filed for Removal of Conditions are having to wait, well over 1 year. Look at how long people are having to wait for all sorts of benefits at VSC. Some of us at the end of our visa journey have been dealing with this immigration stuff for well over 5 years, so please just stop to think about what you are saying, yes everyone want their part to be approved as soon as possible and finds it frustrating to have to wait, but that is how it works. Some get approved faster than others and there is nothing you or the Ombudsman can do about it.

So pull up a chair and take a seat, you are in for a long ride.

i agree with Monica&Isha . i cud give 2 s**ts and a rat's a** about AOS and removal of conditions after my wife gets here. yes, we have to worry about it but its not going to be the first and last thing on my mind..we have our lives to deal with it...atleast she will be here with me and we will go for it together...

Edited September 17, 2008 by cmnb