More than one I-134??

[Mekky 0]

Can I submit more than one I-134, affidavit of support for the same person??

[tracyandoksana 0]

I gues the burning question is Why? Explain?

[Mekky 0]

Just need to know if a co-sponsor would use the same form if I don't have enough supporting evidence?

[raymaga 25]

If you income is above the povery guidelines for your family size, then you won't need a co-sponsor. It's your gross income that counts, so go to the guidelines to see if you earn enough to support your size of family (you, your spouse, and any children).

[Mekky 0]

My income is not above the guidlines at this time. Just need to know if TWO I-134 is OK to submit. Or should I NOT submit one and have my co-sponser submit the only form. I guess that would make them the actual sponser,,, Huh!

[misskiya 0]

I was advised by my lawyer (not knowing how trustworthy he is at this point) to fill out an I-134 for myself, and then have my co-sponsor(s) fill out a seperate I-134. I don't think they'd have a PROBLEM with it. If it's too much, ok. It's not having ENOUGH that seems to be the problem as far as information goes. We haven't gone to the consulate yet so not 100% sure. But there's my 2 cents. Hope it helps.

Edited May 25, 2006 by misskiya

[Joey559 1]

I say the more support, the better. You may not meet the guidelines, but I think it shows your commitment to your fiance/fiancee and the process for you to fill one out as well. I meet the guidelines, but i'm STILL having a co-sponsor. I'd rather give them too much then not enough. If I were you I'd fill it out. If someone wiser (cough aussiewench cough) knows of a reason this wouldn't be smart, please steer them in the right direction.

Joey

[Mekky 0]

Thanks to all of your imput (misskiya and Joey559) as this has helped me. I know it is benificial to submit as much info as pos. Was just wondering because I dont qualify if my I-134 was even looked at!

[Ladylethal 12]

One thing is certain, you have to fill out the form even if you don´t meet the minimum required. And your co-sponsor must fill out a form for himself. So yeah, you need more than one I-134.

[Yodrak 7]

Luis&Laura,

No, that's not certain.

First, requiring I-134 of a sponsor is optional at the discretion of the consular officer reviewing the case. Granted, as a practical matter, they all seem to ask for it when a sponsor is required.

Second, the sponsor for a K visa need not be the petitioner. The petitioner is the reasonable first choice, but when the petioner does not meet the requirements someone else can be the sponsor. There is not much anecdotal evidence for such situations, but there have been some cases reported here on VJ where petitioner was not required to submit sponsorship information because petitioner did not qualify and so visa applicant used someone else as the sponsor.

Yodrak

One thing is certain, you have to fill out the form even if you don´t meet the minimum required. And your co-sponsor must fill out a form for himself. So yeah, you need more than one I-134.

[Mekky 0]

OK, if the I-134 is an optional form when do I know if we need one?

I mean they should say yes or no, not left to the discretion of the consular officer. Aslo do you now if they would ask for I-186 or I-134 at the Moscow consulate? I cant find any concrete support for this question, can you guys?????? Thanks!

[Yodrak 7]

Mekky,

Who do you think "they" is? They is the consular officer handling your case.

Assume that you need one and be ready with it, including all of the other financial documentation that you need to support your numbers. Then, if you want to find out if you needed it, submit only the financial packager from the person you've lined-up to be the sponsor along with the explanation of why you don't qualify. If they don't ask for your information, you didn't need to be ready with it. If they do ask for yours, hand it over.

I-134 is the affidavit of support form used for non-immigrant visas, including the K visas.

Yodrak

OK, if the I-134 is an optional form when do I know if we need one?

I mean they should say yes or no, not left to the discretion of the consular officer. Aslo do you now if they would ask for I-186 or I-134 at the Moscow consulate? I cant find any concrete support for this question, can you guys?????? Thanks!

Edited May 25, 2006 by Yodrak

[Mekky 0]

I know who they is and what I-134 is and thanks for your imput. What I am saying is they should say if it is needed in the instructions with the I-129F. This should not be left to the discretion of one person but I quess we have to play their game !!

[Yodrak 7]

Mekky,

You do not seem to understand the issue. A visa applicant needs to demonstrate to the consular officer that they will not become a public charge after entering the USA. That's the requirement. How one demonstrates that they meet the requirement is very flexible, intentionally so, to accomodate widely varying situations that different people may have. Note that having a sponsor is not a requirement - it's possible for a visa applicant to demonstrate that they will not become a public charge without having a sponsor (not many have done it, but it can and has been done).

The decision as to whether or not the point has been adequately demonstrated rests with the consular officer who is processing the case - as are the decisions on the other issues that go into the determination of whether or not the visa can be issued. It is indeed at the discretion of one person, subject to review by their superiors.

Yodrak

I know who they is and what I-134 is and thanks for your imput. What I am saying is they should say if it is needed in the instructions with the I-129F. This should not be left to the discretion of one person but I quess we have to play their game !!

[Mekky 0]

Yes, Yes Yordak thank you but I thought that the K-1 was only to let the person into the US for marrige ONLY. Then after IF you file to adjust your status you must prove that you will not become puplic charge and submit form I-864. So what if my fiancee is only comming to the US for marrige. I guess we would have to prove that to the officer. I found this on the Moscow embassy site.

"Financial documents from the petitioner - a US citizen: please note, that Affidavit of Support (form I-134) is not required, but may be requested."

I e-mailed them and their reply was this "We recommend to provide it"

I guess my point om this issue is Yordak that they should just state that it is required. This whole process is a big enough pain as it is. I have never worked so hard for a women in my life!! HA ha, It will be all worth it in the end. Thanks again for your input Yordak maybe you can help again in the future.

Mekky