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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Hong Kong
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Question for those who have filed their N-400:

Part 7: Time outside the United States, Question A, asks how many total days you spent outside the U.S. during the past 5 years. Since Lai arrived in September of 2004, one of those 5 years was spent in Hong Kong. Should I:

A: Assume the people at USCIS are capapble of figuring out that the five years on the form doesn't apply to Lai, considering she only needs to have been here three years for citizenship due to marriage.

B: Assume the people at USCIS are idiots B) and include the year spent in Hong Kong.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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Question for those who have filed their N-400:

Part 7: Time outside the United States, Question A, asks how many total days you spent outside the U.S. during the past 5 years. Since Lai arrived in September of 2004, one of those 5 years was spent in Hong Kong. Should I:

A: Assume the people at USCIS are capapble of figuring out that the five years on the form doesn't apply to Lai, considering she only needs to have been here three years for citizenship due to marriage.

B: Assume the people at USCIS are idiots B) and include the year spent in Hong Kong.

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I answered that question exactly the way it was asked, but wife's interviewer said it should have been answered as the number of days she was out of the country as a permanent resident. Wife simply responded, then why didn't they ask that question that way? Her interview scratched out the 400 days we put in and wrote in exactly the days she was out of the country as a LPR. Ddin't respond to her question, and went on to the next part.

According to her interviewer, she should have added the number of days under the listed trips outside and wrote that sum in that box, but the question doesn't ask that. Still feel it's improper to change the question on the form, some have crossed out the five and made it a three, question should read, how many days were you out of the country since becoming a lawful permanent resident? If that is the answer they want.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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Yes it's since being a Permenant Resident. If she was out a year while she was a PR then there are serious issues, if it was before her PR (but say 4 years ago) she's fine...

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1997

Oct - Job offer in US

Nov - Received my TN-1 to be authorized to work in the US

Nov - Moved to US

1998-2001

Recieved 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th TN

2002

May - Met future wife at arts fest

Nov - Recieved 6th TN

2003

Nov - Recieved 7th TN

Jul - Our Wedding

Aug - Filed for AOS

Sep - Recieved EAD

Sep - Recieved Advanced Parole

2004

Jan - Interview, accepted for Green Card

Feb - Green Card Arrived in mail

2005

Oct - I-751 sent off

2006

Jan - 10 year Green Card accepted

Mar - 10 year Green Card arrived

Oct - Filed N-400 for Naturalization

Nov - Biometrics done

Nov - Just recieved Naturalization Interview date for Jan.

2007

Jan - Naturalization Interview Completed

Feb - Oath Letter recieved

Feb - Oath Ceremony

Feb 21 - Finally a US CITIZEN (yay)

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Yep, you'll be ok either assuming the USCIS folks are competent or assuming they're idiots, as long as you don't lie or mislead.

A few years ago, a couple of attorneys recommended that you scratch out the "five" and write "three", and then answer the question based on three years. That's what we did, and had no problems.

If you take it literally and answer for five years, it won't be a problem, except they'll have to use the dates of travel you give and calculate a new answer based on three years. When you're applying based on 3 years married to a US Citizen, the legal requirement concerns three years, so one way or another, the officer will have to determine how many days you've been out of the US within the past three years.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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