Lose your house, lose your vote

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Well well well, Republicans trying again to disenfranchise voters yet again. Just like 2000 and 2004.

At least they're not flip-flopping. Quite consistent indeed.

Must feel good for conservatives to vote for a ticket that enjoys taking the freedom of others. God bless America!

To Flip Flop is sooooo 2004. That is now OK since McCain is all into it.

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charles, this is gonna sound strange since this is a political thread, but i agree with you on all points.

zomg!

I think that can be addressed at the polling location without suspect interference from people that are not employed by each state's elections commission. Interference is the key word here.

But yes... people should be intelligent enough to follow state statutes that guarantee identity and location. Perhaps they should be reminded of this during foreclosure proceedings?

isn't addressing it at the polling location a bit late?

agreed on the reminder during foreclosure

Well... polling location employees are supposed to verify in some places.

Besides, if not, then it is supposed to happen during voter registration. And if you go into foreclosure between then and voting time, then it would probably be assumed that you'd vote only once anyway- regardless of polling location. Which means that the effort to disturb the democratic process is one not borne out of a tactic to ensure fidelity to the process but rather one aimed at specific locations that predominantly vote a certain way.

Hence the tactic of Republican challenges in areas that predominantly vote Democratic.

Nevertheless, given the recent foreclosure market, I suppose the Republican tactic can and should be expanded to more Republican locations if they are going to be allowed to interfere with people's right to vote.

all i've seen them verify is my driver's license and my voting card. what else can they verify?

In Kansas...

Particularly of interest with these "challengers" is what they try to do in polling locations previously known to yield with Democrat candidates. As well as, of course, excuse the tactic to combat potential 'fraud' in newly-registered voters.

That does not ring consonant with challenges based on updated residency as with the foreclosure example.

that still does not address how the polling place employees can verify a potential voter's residency.

Training. Much in the same way someone can be trained to spot a fake ID, a polling official can be trained to identify legal residency by virtue of what each state defines as proof of residency. Be it an ID, be it current utility bills, etc.

I do believe the challenges that have taken place do so to slow the lines down. To get people to not vote. Which is interference.

this isn't about fakes, but proving the voting card one has is valid or not. i don't know about you, but i don't go to the polling booth with an electric bill on me

essentially, this is going to be a tough hurdle for all concerned - both the poll workers and the voters.

Pretty much. I guess it will depend on what standards each state has for verifying the veracity of identity. When challenges arise I can only imagine what that must be like, since there are reasons for everything. Still... one can only imagine what purpose these challengers have that isn't politically driven. (none)

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

charles, this is gonna sound strange since this is a political thread, but i agree with you on all points.

zomg!

I think that can be addressed at the polling location without suspect interference from people that are not employed by each state's elections commission. Interference is the key word here.

But yes... people should be intelligent enough to follow state statutes that guarantee identity and location. Perhaps they should be reminded of this during foreclosure proceedings?

isn't addressing it at the polling location a bit late?

agreed on the reminder during foreclosure

Well... polling location employees are supposed to verify in some places.

Besides, if not, then it is supposed to happen during voter registration. And if you go into foreclosure between then and voting time, then it would probably be assumed that you'd vote only once anyway- regardless of polling location. Which means that the effort to disturb the democratic process is one not borne out of a tactic to ensure fidelity to the process but rather one aimed at specific locations that predominantly vote a certain way.

Hence the tactic of Republican challenges in areas that predominantly vote Democratic.

Nevertheless, given the recent foreclosure market, I suppose the Republican tactic can and should be expanded to more Republican locations if they are going to be allowed to interfere with people's right to vote.

all i've seen them verify is my driver's license and my voting card. what else can they verify?

In Kansas...

Particularly of interest with these "challengers" is what they try to do in polling locations previously known to yield with Democrat candidates. As well as, of course, excuse the tactic to combat potential 'fraud' in newly-registered voters.

That does not ring consonant with challenges based on updated residency as with the foreclosure example.

that still does not address how the polling place employees can verify a potential voter's residency.

Training. Much in the same way someone can be trained to spot a fake ID, a polling official can be trained to identify legal residency by virtue of what each state defines as proof of residency. Be it an ID, be it current utility bills, etc.

I do believe the challenges that have taken place do so to slow the lines down. To get people to not vote. Which is interference.

this isn't about fakes, but proving the voting card one has is valid or not. i don't know about you, but i don't go to the polling booth with an electric bill on me

essentially, this is going to be a tough hurdle for all concerned - both the poll workers and the voters.

Pretty much. I guess it will depend on what standards each state has for verifying the veracity of identity. When challenges arise I can only imagine what that must be like, since there are reasons for everything. Still... one can only imagine what purpose these challengers have that isn't politically driven. (none)

i can see there being a system of proof required for voting to prevent fraud, but it's also common sense for a voter to get things updated if needed. woe to the fool that procrastinates updating their voter eligibility due to a change in residency.

[Jenn! 918]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

[Jenn! 918]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

Yeah, I updated at the RMV, but they said I had to reregister to vote separately. I think you need to register 30 days before an election, so I better get moving, otherwise I guess I'd lose my vote? What if you move less than 30 days before an election?

[IAMX 3,055]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

Yeah, I updated at the RMV, but they said I had to reregister to vote separately. I think you need to register 30 days before an election, so I better get moving, otherwise I guess I'd lose my vote? What if you move less than 30 days before an election?

Just call your local elections office. Every city and/or county should have one. I don't think we here could tell you more than they could.

[Jenn! 918]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

Yeah, I updated at the RMV, but they said I had to reregister to vote separately. I think you need to register 30 days before an election, so I better get moving, otherwise I guess I'd lose my vote? What if you move less than 30 days before an election?

Just call your local elections office. Every city and/or county should have one. I don't think we here could tell you more than they could.

Thanks, I do realize that. I guess what I'm getting at more is just the hypothetical question that is along the same lines as the OP - can you be denied voting privileges if you are in a state of limbo at election time?

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

Yeah, I updated at the RMV, but they said I had to reregister to vote separately. I think you need to register 30 days before an election, so I better get moving, otherwise I guess I'd lose my vote? What if you move less than 30 days before an election?

well don't do that!

[IAMX 3,055]

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

Yeah, I updated at the RMV, but they said I had to reregister to vote separately. I think you need to register 30 days before an election, so I better get moving, otherwise I guess I'd lose my vote? What if you move less than 30 days before an election?

Just call your local elections office. Every city and/or county should have one. I don't think we here could tell you more than they could.

Thanks, I do realize that. I guess what I'm getting at more is just the hypothetical question that is along the same lines as the OP - can you be denied voting privileges if you are in a state of limbo at election time?

Let's just say it's made to be that way, so your vote can be challenged.

Democracy in action, eh?

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woe to the fool that procrastinates updating their voter eligibility due to a change in residency.

Absolutely.

How do the homeless vote? They probably have bigger things to worry about anyway, but just wondering....

Also, I just moved towns. Do I have to reregister immediately in order to vote in November, or can I just go back to my previous district to vote?

check with your state laws - you probably need to reregister plus update your driver's license.

Yeah, I updated at the RMV, but they said I had to reregister to vote separately. I think you need to register 30 days before an election, so I better get moving, otherwise I guess I'd lose my vote? What if you move less than 30 days before an election?

Just call your local elections office. Every city and/or county should have one. I don't think we here could tell you more than they could.

Thanks, I do realize that. I guess what I'm getting at more is just the hypothetical question that is along the same lines as the OP - can you be denied voting privileges if you are in a state of limbo at election time?

Well you may also want to check the polling results from 2004 in your new presumptive district. If Kerry won it you may definitely want to prepare for a challenge on your credentials.

[joelunchbox 0]

If you lose your home, I assume you live somewhere else. Keep those IDs up to date and make sure you know where you're supposed to vote!

There are timing issues that could possibly cause problems even if you do that. It depends on the laws of the states.

Sure. But it is still fair to challenge a voter who may no longer live at the address they previously did.

As long as they aren't voting for McCain--who gives a damn, right?

[AlHayatZween 2]

Thanks, I do realize that. I guess what I'm getting at more is just the hypothetical question that is along the same lines as the OP - can you be denied voting privileges if you are in a state of limbo at election time?

It is a good question... i'm sure someone on here will submit an angry post about what a bad citizen i am, but... in times of limbo, i've either just hightailed it back to my previous district (if possible...if it's not too far away) to vote.

Or, other times i've had to apply for absentee ballot...