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The libs are so desperate! Geez look at you people! Fckin pathetic bunch. The Barack laweyer drop in Alaska to dig up shite on Palin under the guise of change? LMAO!

Obama has rev. Wright, Bill Ayres, Rezco! Pull your heads outta Baracks ####### and get real! You gotta love a bad investment.

You all might start getting therapy appointments for novembers big dissappointment! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I hear Canada nice in november :rofl::rofl::rofl:

you guys accuse some of the Obama followers of blindly following him without questioning anything he does or says.. ... but some of you guys are doing the same thing.. you are blindly following McCain and whenever someone questions him or Palin you call them desperate.. sheesh....

If you knew what you were talkin about youd be dangerous!

you are too much, marc... but thanks for the laughs :thumbs:

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The libs are so desperate! Geez look at you people! Fckin pathetic bunch. The Barack laweyer drop in Alaska to dig up shite on Palin under the guise of change? LMAO!

Obama has rev. Wright, Bill Ayres, Rezco! Pull your heads outta Baracks ####### and get real! You gotta love a bad investment.

You all might start getting therapy appointments for novembers big dissappointment! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I hear Canada nice in november :rofl::rofl::rofl:

you guys accuse some of the Obama followers of blindly following him without questioning anything he does or says.. ... but some of you guys are doing the same thing.. you are blindly following McCain and whenever someone questions him or Palin you call them desperate.. sheesh....

If you knew what you were talkin about youd be dangerous!

you are too much, marc... but thanks for the laughs :thumbs:

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if you guys can't see that you are doing the exact same thing you are accusing the other side of doing, I really feel sorry for you...

and just to be clear, I am undecided but yes, I am leaning towards Obama.. even more so since I see what the other side is like...

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if you guys can't see that you are doing the exact same thing you are accusing the other side of doing, I really feel sorry for you...

and just to be clear, I am undecided but yes, I am leaning towards Obama.. even more so since I see what the other side is like...

You mean, you are leaning to empty promises?

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if you guys can't see that you are doing the exact same thing you are accusing the other side of doing, I really feel sorry for you...

and just to be clear, I am undecided but yes, I am leaning towards Obama.. even more so since I see what the other side is like...

You mean, you are leaning to empty promises?

all politicians are full of it... you can't tell me that you really think McCain is going to do everything he has promised.. all politicians say what they think the voters want to hear...

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Thought i'd add a different perspective...

Feminist template obliterated

By Kathleen Parker

Every now and then, in walks a man or woman who turns the world inside out and upside down.

Barack Obama was such a man.

And now, Sarah Palin is such a woman.

Just as the first African American on a presidential ticket revealed to us how little we have come to terms with race in this country, the first woman in the Republican vice presidential slot has revealed how far we still have to go in our gender reckoning.

(Photo - Sarah Palin / Ethan Miller, Getty Images)

To put it plainly, Palin is seriously messing with our templates. We know what political women in the USA are supposed to look like — and she's not it.

Palin fits no model we've ever seen, and we're not sure what to do with her. Equal parts Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and Stands With A Fist — with a little Barbarella thrown in — Palin is a unique and unfamiliar brand.

She's what some might call "Trouble." And proud of it, too.

Reactions from all sides have fallen somewhere in the realm of hysteria. Republicans, 85% of whom view Palin favorably, are delirious that they — the maligned party of traditional family values — have produced the most credible, kick-caribou female candidate in U.S. history.

Democrats, only 24% of whom view Palin favorably, are dumbfounded — sort of the way Republicans were when a new guy named Obama edged out a stable of Democratic veterans for the presidential nomination.

Who is this woman who could be only a heartbeat away from the presidency? Where did she come from? How could John McCain do such a thing?

Talk about the audacity of hope.

A winning gamble

McCain can hardly wipe the grin off his face. He gambled and won — Big Time. His biggest score has been among white women, who have abandoned the Obama camp and hauled their teepees over to the McCain reservation. Before the Republican convention, white women were leaning 50% for Obama to 42% for McCain, according to ABC News/Washington Post polling. Post-convention, the numbers have shifted to 53% for McCain and just 41% for Obama among white women.

That big shift suggests a new political timeline: BP and AP. Before Palin and After Palin.

In the relatively few days since McCain announced the Palin pick, little has been left unsaid about this youngish (44), attractive, athletic woman who wears librarian glasses and a retro hairdo.

Most Americans — and, plausibly, most Martians — by now know her narrative, as they say. Frontier huntress, "Sarah Barracuda" basketball star, erstwhile beauty queen, hockey mom, government reformer, mother of five, including a 5-month-old special needs child. And, oh yeah, her unmarried 17-year-old daughter is five months pregnant. Whatever. Life's a trip, right?

Palin is demonstrably pro-life, even to the extent of protecting those conceived through rape or incest. She's an evangelical Christian who speaks fluent God. She doesn't mind the idea of culling wolves with rifles from helicopters, though she hasn't shot any herself. She wants to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

And those are just the facts. A full accounting of the rumors and myths circulating about Palin would fill this page. Briefly, she didn't pose in a bikini with a rifle, doesn't want to teach creationism in school, isn't a secessionist and didn't ban books. Palin did ask the librarian in Wasilla (twice) how she would respond if the community wanted some books excluded from the library.

The larger truth is that we still don't know much about Palin other than her résumé points, which are fascinating if not necessarily convincing as to her qualifications for vice president. The Oct. 2 debate with Joe Biden should help voters more fairly assess whether she's up to the job.

Brilliant or blunder

Palin either will be the new Margaret Thatcher or the old Harriet Miers — either a rock-'em-sock-'em stroke of Churchillian genius or a tail-dragging, head-banging Baghdad blunder.

What has become abundantly clear in the meantime is that we have reached a crossroads in our nation's gender trajectory. Always burbling beneath the surface of American life and politics, gender has erupted the past few days into a geyser of emotion and vitriol.

What kind of woman do we want in high office? What kind of woman is acceptable?

Feminists have always called the shots on this question. The quintessential woman was pro-choice, interchangeable with any man — and her name was Hillary Rodham Clinton. Feminists necessarily have viewed Clinton's defeat as a sexist manifestation of patriarchal betrayal because, really, what other explanation could there be? Clinton was perfectly molded according to the feminist template. Clearly, she lost because she's a woman, disappointed women told themselves.

But the greatest insult was yet to come. Republicans — those anti-woman, patriarchal Neanderthalian gun-clingers — nominated a woman whom Democrats would call a "Stepford wife," except she'd beat them to a bloody pulp with a moose antler.

The irony is almost too on-the-nose to be enjoyable, but there is other cause for satisfaction. Even if Sarah Palin ultimately fails to prove herself worthy of second-in-command, her enthusiastic reception has proved that there are other kinds of women in the USA — lots of them — who have a different idea about what's best for womankind.

The sisterhood has been put on notice.

Kathleen Parker is a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors and author of Save The Males. She is also a syndicated columnist with the Washington Post Writers Group.

Let's face it--Sarah Palin is America's excuse to not vote for Obama.

This could possibly go down as one of the best POLITCAL moves in amercan history. Now, think about how many politically motivated actions have been GOOD for America.

Straight talk to HELL is what I see right now. McCain apparently will do ANYTHING to get into office.

How sad.

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Thought i'd add a different perspective...

Feminist template obliterated

By Kathleen Parker

Every now and then, in walks a man or woman who turns the world inside out and upside down.

Barack Obama was such a man.

And now, Sarah Palin is such a woman.

Just as the first African American on a presidential ticket revealed to us how little we have come to terms with race in this country, the first woman in the Republican vice presidential slot has revealed how far we still have to go in our gender reckoning.

(Photo - Sarah Palin / Ethan Miller, Getty Images)

To put it plainly, Palin is seriously messing with our templates. We know what political women in the USA are supposed to look like — and she's not it.

Palin fits no model we've ever seen, and we're not sure what to do with her. Equal parts Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and Stands With A Fist — with a little Barbarella thrown in — Palin is a unique and unfamiliar brand.

She's what some might call "Trouble." And proud of it, too.

Reactions from all sides have fallen somewhere in the realm of hysteria. Republicans, 85% of whom view Palin favorably, are delirious that they — the maligned party of traditional family values — have produced the most credible, kick-caribou female candidate in U.S. history.

Democrats, only 24% of whom view Palin favorably, are dumbfounded — sort of the way Republicans were when a new guy named Obama edged out a stable of Democratic veterans for the presidential nomination.

Who is this woman who could be only a heartbeat away from the presidency? Where did she come from? How could John McCain do such a thing?

Talk about the audacity of hope.

A winning gamble

McCain can hardly wipe the grin off his face. He gambled and won — Big Time. His biggest score has been among white women, who have abandoned the Obama camp and hauled their teepees over to the McCain reservation. Before the Republican convention, white women were leaning 50% for Obama to 42% for McCain, according to ABC News/Washington Post polling. Post-convention, the numbers have shifted to 53% for McCain and just 41% for Obama among white women.

That big shift suggests a new political timeline: BP and AP. Before Palin and After Palin.

In the relatively few days since McCain announced the Palin pick, little has been left unsaid about this youngish (44), attractive, athletic woman who wears librarian glasses and a retro hairdo.

Most Americans — and, plausibly, most Martians — by now know her narrative, as they say. Frontier huntress, "Sarah Barracuda" basketball star, erstwhile beauty queen, hockey mom, government reformer, mother of five, including a 5-month-old special needs child. And, oh yeah, her unmarried 17-year-old daughter is five months pregnant. Whatever. Life's a trip, right?

Palin is demonstrably pro-life, even to the extent of protecting those conceived through rape or incest. She's an evangelical Christian who speaks fluent God. She doesn't mind the idea of culling wolves with rifles from helicopters, though she hasn't shot any herself. She wants to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

And those are just the facts. A full accounting of the rumors and myths circulating about Palin would fill this page. Briefly, she didn't pose in a bikini with a rifle, doesn't want to teach creationism in school, isn't a secessionist and didn't ban books. Palin did ask the librarian in Wasilla (twice) how she would respond if the community wanted some books excluded from the library.

The larger truth is that we still don't know much about Palin other than her résumé points, which are fascinating if not necessarily convincing as to her qualifications for vice president. The Oct. 2 debate with Joe Biden should help voters more fairly assess whether she's up to the job.

Brilliant or blunder

Palin either will be the new Margaret Thatcher or the old Harriet Miers — either a rock-'em-sock-'em stroke of Churchillian genius or a tail-dragging, head-banging Baghdad blunder.

What has become abundantly clear in the meantime is that we have reached a crossroads in our nation's gender trajectory. Always burbling beneath the surface of American life and politics, gender has erupted the past few days into a geyser of emotion and vitriol.

What kind of woman do we want in high office? What kind of woman is acceptable?

Feminists have always called the shots on this question. The quintessential woman was pro-choice, interchangeable with any man — and her name was Hillary Rodham Clinton. Feminists necessarily have viewed Clinton's defeat as a sexist manifestation of patriarchal betrayal because, really, what other explanation could there be? Clinton was perfectly molded according to the feminist template. Clearly, she lost because she's a woman, disappointed women told themselves.

But the greatest insult was yet to come. Republicans — those anti-woman, patriarchal Neanderthalian gun-clingers — nominated a woman whom Democrats would call a "Stepford wife," except she'd beat them to a bloody pulp with a moose antler.

The irony is almost too on-the-nose to be enjoyable, but there is other cause for satisfaction. Even if Sarah Palin ultimately fails to prove herself worthy of second-in-command, her enthusiastic reception has proved that there are other kinds of women in the USA — lots of them — who have a different idea about what's best for womankind.

The sisterhood has been put on notice.

Kathleen Parker is a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors and author of Save The Males. She is also a syndicated columnist with the Washington Post Writers Group.

Let's face it--Sarah Palin is America's excuse to not vote for Obama.

This could possibly go down as one of the best POLITCAL moves in amercan history. Now, think about how many politically motivated actions have been GOOD for America.

Straight talk to HELL is what I see right now. McCain apparently will do ANYTHING to get into office.

How sad.

Yep. McCain was a decent, thoughtful guy who I would have thought seriously about voting for in 2000 had he been the party's nominee. Now, he has exposed himself as just another power hungry politician. Sarah Palin exposed the real John McCain -- one I would never think of voting for.

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