Discoverying your daughter is bi-sexual/gay/?

[Fandango 1,440]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

[sarah and hicham 3]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

Such an unfortunate and sad reality.

[jelti 0]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

I did not say that people are not being discriminated against for being homosexual. I said that people are also discriminated against for reasons other than homosexuality.

Edited May 24, 2006 by jelti

[gimygirl 0]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

at no point was it said that it was a requirement ... however it is relevant because it shows how deeply she is troubled with her daughter's homosexuality that she can't even face a forum of internet strangers. it makes sense now that she would have trouble sitting at a softball game in her community if she thinks people will gossip.

support group and therapy!!

[joej 0]

Every time I think about wanting someone to change for me, I remember what one of my proffessors told me. He always said, "the only person you can truly change is yourself". It seems like when I have applied this to my life, changing myself and my behaviors has inadvertantly, created a change in the situation I was dwelling on.

Best Wishes

[Fandango 1,440]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

I did not say that people are not being discriminated against for being homosexual. I said that people are also discriminated against for reasons other than homosexuality.

right, no one's disputing that, but I fail to see the relevance on this particular conversation.

is that meant to minimize the severity of the situation?

[Ban Hammer 13,540]

i just hope that the op can come to grips with this and that everything works out for both her and her daughter. best wishes

[sarah and hicham 3]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

I did not say that people are not being discriminated against for being homosexual. I said that people are also discriminated against for reasons other than homosexuality.

riiight. And no one said they aren't discriminated against for other things. This thread is about homosexuality so let's stick to the topic.

[Fandango 1,440]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

at no point was it said that it was a requirement ... however it is relevant because it shows how deeply she is troubled with her daughter's homosexuality that she can't even face a forum of internet strangers. it makes sense now that she would have trouble sitting at a softball game in her community if she thinks people will gossip.

support group and therapy!!

I think her post is evidence that she's deeply troubled. That much is a given.

and this is probably more than a forum of strangers to her if she's been here 2 years. This place prolly means a lot to her.

Edited May 24, 2006 by LisaD

[jelti 0]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

I did not say that people are not being discriminated against for being homosexual. I said that people are also discriminated against for reasons other than homosexuality.

riiight. And no one said they aren't discriminated against for other things. This thread is about homosexuality so let's stick to the topic.

Lisa and Sarah,

I have been giving my opinions when asked for them, or when I felt the need to give them. I obviously think they are relevant to the topic at hand, otherwise I would not have posted them. Both of you do the same, and I respect your opinions. Why make a mockery of mine?

Edited May 24, 2006 by jelti

[Fandango 1,440]

Lisa and Sarah,

I have been giving my opinion when asked for it, or when I felt the need to give it. Both of you do the same, and I respect your opinions. Why make a mockery of mine?

I'm not making a mockery of anything. I'm asking what your point is.

People are discriminated about other things...but does that somehow minimize the severity of gays being beaten/killed/discriminated against? I'm sorry if I'm sounding judgemental, but the truth is I am just baffled as to what this has to do with the topic.

Seriously, was it meant as a 'well it happens for other reasons too so they're not THAT special' kind of way?

Please! enlighten me cos I'm lost here

Edited May 24, 2006 by LisaD

[jelti 0]

Lisa and Sarah,

I have been giving my opinion when asked for it, or when I felt the need to give it. Both of you do the same, and I respect your opinions. Why make a mockery of mine?

I'm not making a mockery of anything. I'm asking what your point is.

People are discriminated about other things...but does that somehow minimize the severity? I'm sorry if I'm sounding judgemental, but the truth is I am just baffled as to what this has to do with the topic.

Perhaps you should take the time to read all of the posts on the last four pages. I, in no way whatsoever, have tried to minimize the severity of the situation at hand. That should be evident by my first response to the OP.

[Fandango 1,440]

Lisa and Sarah,

I have been giving my opinion when asked for it, or when I felt the need to give it. Both of you do the same, and I respect your opinions. Why make a mockery of mine?

I'm not making a mockery of anything. I'm asking what your point is.

People are discriminated about other things...but does that somehow minimize the severity? I'm sorry if I'm sounding judgemental, but the truth is I am just baffled as to what this has to do with the topic.

Perhaps you should take the time to read all of the posts on the last four pages. I, in no way whatsoever, have tried to minimize the severity of the situation at hand. That should be evident by my first response to the OP.

But again, I ask you....

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

what does this mean?

[sarah and hicham 3]

this is not about 'my daughter is homosexual' ... this is about the mother's embarrassment of such, clearly demonstrated by the fact that she's under an anonymous name ... she's not even comfortable sharing this fact on the internet.

as i've suggested before, get your priorities straight and seek a support group to help with your fears and embarrassment issues. this is your child ... nothing should stand in the way of that.

It's not required for her to tell us who she is. and it's really not relevant to the conversation anyways.

She has every right for anonymity. Look at the responses and judgements she's getting...

Jelti, did you make a concious choice as to finding men attractive? Just curious

Being attracted to men or women is not a choice. I have been attracted to women. I have been attracted to men. My choice lies in what actions I allow to stem from that attraction.

So gay people choose to be gay because they look forward to discrimination since it's a conscious choice. They purposely choose to be put down, made fun of, discriminated against by everyone including the government? Boy they must be lookin' for trouble!

One can be put down, made fun of, and discriminated against because of more than just being "gay". FWIW, I have many gay friends who are definitley not put down, made fun of, or discriminated against. We are living in a society where judging people based on their sexual preference is becoming majorly outdated.

People are persecuted for many different reasons. Homosexuality is only one of them.

People are still killed/beaten/discriminated against for being gay. Don't kid yourself.

Off to work now!

I did not say that people are not being discriminated against for being homosexual. I said that people are also discriminated against for reasons other than homosexuality.

riiight. And no one said they aren't discriminated against for other things. This thread is about homosexuality so let's stick to the topic.

Lisa and Sarah,

I have been giving my opinions when asked for them, or when I felt the need to give them. I obviously think they are relevant to the topic at hand, otherwise I would not have posted them. Both of you do the same, and I respect your opinions. Why make a mockery of mine?

No one is mocking you. You're entitled to your opinion as we are to ours. Who is mocking you? This topic is homosexuality and I was just trying to keep us on track. Clearly people are discriminated for many many rerasons but I am just talking about homosexuality which is what the OP asked about. That's all, no mockery.

[Fandango 1,440]

I've read every post on this thread...and I still don't understand the point you were making.