Report: Obama mentored by Communist Party figure

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm not surprised by the worthless garbage that WND produces nor by the excitement it produces in a certain part of the population. What I am surprised about is that reasonable people actually read and try to deal with this #######. It's utter nonsense not worth any reasonable person's time or attention. Done.

I would hope that you would see the point I was trying to make. Do I think Obama is a commie? Nope, never did. Do I think this story has any merit? Nope, never did. I posted it to try and wake up the dumbfukcs posting endless ####### about Palin that have even less merit. You see the reaction I got, just what I expected. Do you see how stupid the constant posts about Palin looks? This whole thing was trying to make a point that some people here have gone off the deep end.

So the only people you bother to respond to are out and out partisans? What's that about?

Where's the middle-ground conversation?

It seems that no one wants a middle ground conversation. Any topic about politics reverts to the gutter here.

I dunno - there's a fair few people here who wouldn't mind having that conversation and plenty who don't buy into the partisan warfare. Why is it only bait posts get the most attention.

Still as someone who can't vote (as our mutual "friend" Dev has reminded me on several occations - with a level of glee that borders on the sexual) I do find this back and forth rather interesting. Our UK elections were never this interesting - in a bad soap opera sort of way..

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'm not surprised by the worthless garbage that WND produces nor by the excitement it produces in a certain part of the population. What I am surprised about is that reasonable people actually read and try to deal with this #######. It's utter nonsense not worth any reasonable person's time or attention. Done.

I would hope that you would see the point I was trying to make. Do I think Obama is a commie? Nope, never did. Do I think this story has any merit? Nope, never did. I posted it to try and wake up the dumbfukcs posting endless ####### about Palin that have even less merit. You see the reaction I got, just what I expected. Do you see how stupid the constant posts about Palin looks? This whole thing was trying to make a point that some people here have gone off the deep end.

You know, Gary. The only way we're going to be able to make it through the next 9 weeks is to stay on topic with the OP....not bring up other threads or issues. It's just like arguing with a spouse. If you start bringing other issues into the fight at hand, you're only going to make things worse. So come on....I know you like to argue and there's nothing wrong with that. So let's make it both a productive and enjoyable experience for everyone.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'm not surprised by the worthless garbage that WND produces nor by the excitement it produces in a certain part of the population. What I am surprised about is that reasonable people actually read and try to deal with this #######. It's utter nonsense not worth any reasonable person's time or attention. Done.

I would hope that you would see the point I was trying to make. Do I think Obama is a commie? Nope, never did. Do I think this story has any merit? Nope, never did. I posted it to try and wake up the dumbfukcs posting endless ####### about Palin that have even less merit. You see the reaction I got, just what I expected. Do you see how stupid the constant posts about Palin looks? This whole thing was trying to make a point that some people here have gone off the deep end.

I know what you're trying to get across. But the information coming to light on Ms. Palin's background, politics, views and beliefs through the MSM is hardly on par with the useless ####### the WND publishes. Off the deep end is when people confuse the Enquirer and such trash with actual journalism. That happened here and I didn't give those "revelations" any time of the day either. The hypocrisy that the Republican ticket now is vis-à-vis their family values, abstinence only and sanctity of marriage platform is something that begs to be discussed, however.

In my opinion, Ms. Palin is a scary prospect for this country - anyone who thinks Bush was bad better watch out. This lady will make W look like a very reasonable and open minded left of center moderate.

[Heracles 417]

Stay on topic please. We're talking about WND - which has a record of posting sensational nonsense. If you'd like to expose other websites for their sensationalism, feel free to start your own thread on that subject. Thank you.

This boy that cried wolf excuse is irrelevant. Just because you may not agree with, or like, a particular news source does not mean anything and everything they post is garbage.

It is this sort of attitude that is polarizing and pushing the country further apart; Which eventually is going to bite the country in the ###.

Internal bickering has been the cause of failure for most historically successful nations.

Edited September 10, 2008 by Aficionado

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Actually in retrospect I don't view Bush as being particularly right-wing. Cheney is IMO and the administration has certainly pandered to the fringe elements when it was in its interest - but Bush himself is a puzzlement. I think his politics are about money rather than ideology. 8 years of Whoring out the office of the president and disguising it as national policy.

Edited September 10, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[Heracles 417]

In my opinion, Ms. Palin is a scary prospect for this country - anyone who thinks Bush was bad better watch out. This lady will make W look like a very reasonable and open minded left of center moderate.

I was watching the Local 24 hour French news channel, which is broadcast here in DC, and noticed them interview a young African American female. Her comments on Obama were quite interesting. She felt Obama was like a Christmas present. That toy you want to play with in the beginning, only to hand it back within a few days when you are over it. "Unfortunately you cannot simply give Obama back once the fad is over", she said.

Interesting point of view.

Edited September 10, 2008 by Aficionado

[cieloazul 0]

Report: Obama mentored by Communist Party figure

Investigations show ties to radicals who shaped him, helped launch his political career

Posted: May 22, 2008

11:40 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi

Barack Obama had extensive ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA, in Hawaii and Chicago, according to two new reports released yesterday in Washington, D.C., by two experienced internal security investigators.

Investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, a former investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, presented evidence Obama was mentored, while attending high school in Hawaii, by Frank Marshall Davis, an African-American poet and journalist who was also a CPUSA member.

The authors, in a separate report, document Obama's ties to radicals in Chicago who helped launch his career.

In a paper entitled "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection," the authors document that in 1948, Davis decided to move from Chicago to Honolulu at the suggestion of what they describe as two "secret CPUSA members," actor Paul Robeson and Harry Bridges, the head of the International Longshoremen's and Warehousemen Union, or ILWU.

In Chicago, Davis had worked for the Chicago Star newspaper; in Honolulu, he was hired as a reporter for the Honolulu Record, both identified by Kincaid and Romerstein as "communist front newspapers."

In his autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," Obama discusses the influence a mentor identified in the book only as "Frank" had on his intellectual development.

Obama described Frank as a drinking companion of his grandfather, who had boasted of his association with African-American authors Richard Wright and Langston Hughes during the time Frank was a journalist in Chicago.

Romerstein, in addition to having served as investigator with the U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities, served in the same capacity with the House Committee on Internal Security and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was the head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the U.S. Information Agency. Romerstein is also co-author of the influential book "The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America's Traitors," which included extensive documentation of the communist activities of Roosevelt administration staffer Alger Hiss.

Kincaid is the founder and president of America's Survival Inc., an independent watchdog group that monitors the U.N. and international terrorism. He is also editor of Accuracy in Media's AIM Report.

Are you a member of the Communist Party?

Kincaid and Romerstein quote Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979

A transcript of a 1956 hearing before the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee discovered by internal security affairs researcher and writer Max Friedman showed Davis took the Fifth Amendment when asked by the subcommittee if he was or had ever been a member of the Communist Party.

In the second report, "Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection," Kincaid and Romerstein present evidence supporting their contention the SDS organization from which the Weather Underground organization and radicals Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn came, received financial contributions from the CPUSA, which in turn receive its funding from Moscow.

Obama's run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers' and Dorhn's Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat.

Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People's Daily World, June 19, 1986.

"There has been no explanation of why Ayers et al. played a role in launching Obama's political career," Kincaid wrote.

Kincaid and Romerstein present documentation that Tom Hayden, another major figure in the SDS, is today one of four principal initiators of the "Progressives for Obama" movement, which calls for ending the war in Iraq "as quickly as possible, not in five years."

According to Kincaid and Romerstein, U.S. Peace Council executive committee member Frank Chapman "blew the whistle on communist support for Obama's presidential bid and his real agenda" in a letter to the People's Weekly World after Obama's win in the Iowa Democratic Party caucuses.

"Obama's victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle," Chapman wrote. "Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

Kincaid and Romerstein wrote, "The clear implication of Chapman's letter is that Obama himself, or some of his Marxist supporters, are acting like moles in the political process. The suggestion is that something is being hidden from the public."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65066

I'm not saying that communism is good but the people of communist China do make my clothes, kitchen appliances, most of my electronics, etc. etc. etc.. I've heard a rumor that this is so because capitalists moved our factories along with much of our technology to communist China. This is all part of a global economy and is good for us,,so our politicians say.

[Heracles 417]

Actually in retrospect I don't view Bush as being particularly right-wing. Cheney is IMO and the administration has certainly pandered to the fringe elements when it was in its interest - but Bush himself is a puzzlement. I think his politics are about money rather than ideology. 8 years of Whoring out the office of the president and disguising it as national policy.

Cheney is a shifty ######. Heck I will even tell you that. The guy treated people like a mushroom. Fed us ####### and kept us in the dark. I don't think Bush is a bad guy but he got suckered in by Cheney. I have seen Bin Laden more than I have seen him in the past 8 years.

Edited September 10, 2008 by Aficionado

[GaryC 7]

I'm not surprised by the worthless garbage that WND produces nor by the excitement it produces in a certain part of the population. What I am surprised about is that reasonable people actually read and try to deal with this #######. It's utter nonsense not worth any reasonable person's time or attention. Done.

I would hope that you would see the point I was trying to make. Do I think Obama is a commie? Nope, never did. Do I think this story has any merit? Nope, never did. I posted it to try and wake up the dumbfukcs posting endless ####### about Palin that have even less merit. You see the reaction I got, just what I expected. Do you see how stupid the constant posts about Palin looks? This whole thing was trying to make a point that some people here have gone off the deep end.

I know what you're trying to get across. But the information coming to light on Ms. Palin's background, politics, views and beliefs through the MSM is hardly on par with the useless ####### the WND publishes. Off the deep end is when people confuse the Enquirer and such trash with actual journalism. That happened here and I didn't give those "revelations" any time of the day either. The hypocrisy that the Republican ticket now is vis-à-vis their family values, abstinence only and sanctity of marriage platform is something that begs to be discussed, however.

In my opinion, Ms. Palin is a scary prospect for this country - anyone who thinks Bush was bad better watch out. This lady will make W look like a very reasonable and open minded left of center moderate.

There we part company. While I think you remember that I was wishy-washy on McCain I am very excited about Palin. I see the next 4 years as training for her. I wish with all my heart that 4 years from now McCain doesn't run for re-election and Palin runs and wins. She is just what this country needs and I mean that with all sincerity. I know you strongly disagree and I am fine with that. It's why we have elections.

[rebeccajo 14]

OMG.

Sarah Palin is a former beauty queen turned sportscaster turned local politician.

How can ANY of that be 'exciting' from a political standpoint?

Honestly. I just don't get it. There are SO many other women in politics who are much more politically exciting.

Maybe it's just that their legs aren't as good or that they are older than Sarah Palin.

Much ado about nothing, I say. That's all Sarah Palin is.

Edited September 10, 2008 by rebeccajo

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'm not surprised by the worthless garbage that WND produces nor by the excitement it produces in a certain part of the population. What I am surprised about is that reasonable people actually read and try to deal with this #######. It's utter nonsense not worth any reasonable person's time or attention. Done.

I would hope that you would see the point I was trying to make. Do I think Obama is a commie? Nope, never did. Do I think this story has any merit? Nope, never did. I posted it to try and wake up the dumbfukcs posting endless ####### about Palin that have even less merit. You see the reaction I got, just what I expected. Do you see how stupid the constant posts about Palin looks? This whole thing was trying to make a point that some people here have gone off the deep end.

I know what you're trying to get across. But the information coming to light on Ms. Palin's background, politics, views and beliefs through the MSM is hardly on par with the useless ####### the WND publishes. Off the deep end is when people confuse the Enquirer and such trash with actual journalism. That happened here and I didn't give those "revelations" any time of the day either. The hypocrisy that the Republican ticket now is vis-à-vis their family values, abstinence only and sanctity of marriage platform is something that begs to be discussed, however.

In my opinion, Ms. Palin is a scary prospect for this country - anyone who thinks Bush was bad better watch out. This lady will make W look like a very reasonable and open minded left of center moderate.

There we part company. While I think you remember that I was wishy-washy on McCain I am very excited about Palin. I see the next 4 years as training for her. I wish with all my heart that 4 years from now McCain doesn't run for re-election and Palin runs and wins. She is just what this country needs and I mean that with all sincerity. I know you strongly disagree and I am fine with that. It's why we have elections.

You're damn right we disagree there. Would be good news for these guys, though - finally away from those silly GEICO commercials and a real shot at US cabinet positions under Palin. Just her breed of personnel. Well, on second thought, they might just be a tad too progressive for her.

Sarah Palin is a former beauty queen turned sportscaster turned local politician.

How can ANY of that be 'exciting' from a political standpoint?

Honestly. I just don't get it.

It's the fanatic, extremist fundamentalism she represents that gets people fired up.

[Heracles 417]

OMG.

Sarah Palin is a former beauty queen turned sportscaster turned local politician.

How can ANY of that be 'exciting' from a political standpoint?

Honestly. I just don't get it. There are SO many other women in politics who are much more politically exciting.

Maybe it's just that their legs aren't or good or that they are older than Sarah Palin.

Much ado about nothing, I say. That's all Sarah Palin is.

I thought the entire Democrat theme was about "change". Some ex lawyer running since 1972 is certainly not "change" now is it. Whereas, she is literally the "change" dems beat on about.

If this was a game of chess, republicans should say checkmate.

Edited September 10, 2008 by Aficionado

[Peikko 1,575]

OMG.

Sarah Palin is a former beauty queen turned sportscaster turned local politician.

How can ANY of that be 'exciting' from a political standpoint?

Honestly. I just don't get it. There are SO many other women in politics who are much more politically exciting.

Maybe it's just that their legs aren't or good or that they are older than Sarah Palin.

Much ado about nothing, I say. That's all Sarah Palin is.

On both sides of the political divide. Setting the bar low is apparently a new game in political circles.

[no name 1]

More yellow journalism from World Nut Daily, Gary?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...49136&st=23

Just stop the hatred and smearing of Obama and his supporters. Can you agree to stop referring to them as 'kool-aid drinkers?' Come on, this isn't doing anybody any good. Let's get back to discussing the actual issues, while showing respect for opposing viewpoints.

Yeah I know. He only wants a truce when it suits him.

Hey now...don't let Dev pull you into her web of deception. My criticism was aimed at WND ....a Right wing website that has a reputation for yellow journalism...and as I recall, you lambasted me for daring to post anything from any Left wing websites. I don't have a problem with quoting from politically bent websites as long as they have a good record of being factual...unless of course you want to post something that's an opinion - that's fine with me as well.

Web of deception? That's your idea of respect, like you proposed? How pathetic.

Some of your quality sources..

http://rumproast.com/

http://michelleobamawatch.com/

http://www.alternet.org/

Stay on topic please. We're talking about WND - which has a record of posting sensational nonsense. If you'd like to expose other websites for their sensationalism, feel free to start your own thread on that subject. Thank you.

You brought up the name-calling Steven, I simply pointed out your hypocrisy. Definitely ON topic!

I'm not surprised by the worthless garbage that WND produces nor by the excitement it produces in a certain part of the population. What I am surprised about is that reasonable people actually read and try to deal with this #######. It's utter nonsense not worth any reasonable person's time or attention. Done.

I would hope that you would see the point I was trying to make. Do I think Obama is a commie? Nope, never did. Do I think this story has any merit? Nope, never did. I posted it to try and wake up the dumbfukcs posting endless ####### about Palin that have even less merit. You see the reaction I got, just what I expected. Do you see how stupid the constant posts about Palin looks? This whole thing was trying to make a point that some people here have gone off the deep end.

You know, Gary. The only way we're going to be able to make it through the next 9 weeks is to stay on topic with the OP....not bring up other threads or issues. It's just like arguing with a spouse. If you start bringing other issues into the fight at hand, you're only going to make things worse. So come on....I know you like to argue and there's nothing wrong with that. So let's make it both a productive and enjoyable experience for everyone.

Then why can't you follow your own request? You asked for respect, yet you cannot give it. You are a joke.

[PlatyPius 5]

FFS Gary, are we REALLY going to go back to the McCarthy era?

Don't get me wrong, I like being informed. But, ya see, I read stuff like that on NEWS sites. No need to post them all over the place here. Really. All it does is make you (or anyone else who posts these types of things for EITHER party) look a bit fanatical, obsessed, and perhaps even drooling a bit.

I haven't posted any topics about McCain or Palin for this one reason: I know how sh!tty it feels to keep seeing - every single day - topics about how evil/wrong/stupid your candidate is and what a moron you must be to support him/her.

That's all.