No, Actually, It's that the Economy is Falling Apart

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

And yes - imperial expansion into Africa went on well into the early 20th century. That continent has been effectively under the heel of European civilizations all the way back to Roman times.

Most of Africa was ruled by Africans with the exception of about 100 years of European rule. The Arabs ruled N. Africa far longer than Rome. The majority of African countries have been independent for the last 48 years and conditions have worsened in most the region.

Multicultural education is just reverse racism masquerading as education.

48 years is not a particularly long time in the scheme of things, given how far back this goes.

Just as the children of poor Africans have - being born into poverty. Its not rocket science to understand this...

Poverty alone explains little. Most of East Asia was dirt poor but education and business orientation changed things for the better. The reality is Africans (like everyone else) are largely responsible for their own lot and blaming racism for everything achieves nothing.

Its not a simple equation - but noone is blaming racism.

[alienlovechild 75]

Funny. If I remember my history correctly... when did the UK outlaw the Slave Trade and actively sought to use its Navy to repatriate slaves 'rescued' enroute to N. America?

U.S. banned importation of slaves the year after the UK did. U.S. banned slavery in the U.S. by 1865 but Britain did it 1834.

http://www.nlj.org.jm/docs/slave_trade_chronology.htm

[HAL 9000 96]

Which is why there is a constitutional Separation of Church and State.

Where is the "separation" phrase in the Constitution? Give us poor uneducated types the quote and the link, please.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Link.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

And what religious group has taken over the government in the US?

80% of Americans are religious yet the government is not permitted to celebrate with them. That is ridiculous by any standard and is certainly not the case in most other OECD nations.

America has become a country where the majority are silenced for the needs, and views, of the few.

How are they not permitted to celebrate? Is this that Bill O'Reilly cack about the "war on Christmas"?

Are government buildings allowed to put up Christmas decorations? Are schools allowed to celebrate Christmas or Easter?

I would hazard a guess here that the coverage of this sort of political correctness paints the problem in a worse light than it really is.

[HAL 9000 96]

Funny. If I remember my history correctly... when did the UK outlaw the Slave Trade and actively sought to use its Navy to repatriate slaves 'rescued' enroute to N. America? Sure... there were politics involved against its former colony in N. America... but still... lets go into that tangential line for explanation shall we?

Outlawed the slave trade yet ironically carried a majority of slaves to America; even after slavery was outlawed.

You may want to read up on the port of Liverpool and how important this was to the slave trade.

The British Armada did so? Or was it the work of private profiteers?

Which were subject to British maritime law when captured perhaps???

[HAL 9000 96]

Funny. If I remember my history correctly... when did the UK outlaw the Slave Trade and actively sought to use its Navy to repatriate slaves 'rescued' enroute to N. America?

U.S. banned importation of slaves the year after the UK did. U.S. banned slavery in the U.S. by 1865 but Britain did it 1834.

http://www.nlj.org.jm/docs/slave_trade_chronology.htm

Got a better linkie? No load.

[Heracles 417]

Um hum. You are once again confusing the cause/effect historical issue with the reality that has been created to cause that same attitude you bold above.

The chance of opportunity may be there hypothetically, but this country has leaps and bounds to make in order for the access to the opportunity to be tangible.

Sure, a negative attitude doesn't help. Look at what happens when you blow yourself up.

Just the other week when I was driving in NW DC and I got a clear picture of why some are the way they are. Seem to have a lot of time to hang out and chill on the streets at early hours of the morning. Also around 4 drive by shootings that weekend. Including an 8 month old baby killed.

Edited September 8, 2008 by Aficionado

[alienlovechild 75]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Close but no cigar. There is no "separation" phrase in the Constitution. It came about much later in U.S. law.

"The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to a letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state. The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

[HAL 9000 96]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Close but no cigar. There is no "separation" phrase in the Constitution. It came about much later in U.S. law.

"The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to a letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state. The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state

Close enough.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Unemployment, underemployment, poor investment in education (resulting in poorer general standards of education) are perennial problems in inner-city areas. There's also a generational aspect to consider.

[HAL 9000 96]

Unemployment, underemployment, poor investment in education (resulting in poorer general standards of education) are perennial problems in inner-city areas. There's also a generational aspect to consider.

Oh, no its not!

Neener, neener... we can only blame people with attitude problems.

If that's the case... ummm...

[Heracles 417]

Which is why there is a constitutional Separation of Church and State.

Where is the "separation" phrase in the Constitution? Give us poor uneducated types the quote and the link, please.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Link.

And how does this equate to a literal and complete separation of church and state, as is the status quo in America.

[alienlovechild 75]

Slave trade timelines

http://www.nlj.org.jm/docs/slave_trade_chronology.htm

http://amistad.mysticseaport.org/timeline/...lave.trade.html

[HAL 9000 96]

Which is why there is a constitutional Separation of Church and State.

Where is the "separation" phrase in the Constitution? Give us poor uneducated types the quote and the link, please.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Link.

And how does this equate to a literal and complete separation of church and state, as is the status quo in America.

I can underline the pertinent part for you. There, done.

[Heracles 417]

Unemployment, underemployment, poor investment in education (resulting in poorer general standards of education) are perennial problems in inner-city areas. There's also a generational aspect to consider.

Move to where the jobs are. No more factories in inner cities.

Poor investment in education. Go to a local library which is free. Use the school libraries which are free. Walmart sells notepads for 10 cents and pens for another 10 cents. Covered under food coupons. Various places have free internet, especially the libraries. Scholarships allow poor students to attend college for free. Student loans allow the others to do so as well. Elementary school, middle school and high school is free in America. Heck, it is not even free in Australia.