i thank GOD for our medical. st.lukes dont deserve any thank u at all!

[bevs 0]

hello to my fellow vj's! finally after 3 days of long waiting for our medical we finally done with this bulls**t medical flows. this medical is waste of time, alot of time. i cannot imagine how slow they are like worm. forgive me but they dont deserve our high cost of payment. we pay high so we expect them to treat us fair.

my complaints.

First day: Rm10 for physical exam. i have my son with me who is 2 yrs old. his a kid, his not a child yet, most of kids are hyper, this is include my son. when the doctor ask me to take off my son clothes my son was shouting, " mom what are u doing? no mommy my toot will be seen by that doc" ofcourse his shy and feel uneasy. i said "its ok, this is just very quick" so he keep laughing and moving, and i see the doc face is ruin. my turn when my son seen me naked he asked again " mom why are u getting naked?" and i told him to sit down and behave but he didnt he is so curious of what im doing to he keep asking, when doc about to check me she shouted on my son and said " you go and behave, move " i was like what the hell? why she shouted on my son, does this include on my son medical fees? i really wanted to react but i didnt , cuz u know this is the most scary part of medical exam, i just stay quite but i was hurt. she can just told my son to behave and move w/o shouting, cuz he also know hoe to listen. i just cant imagine how this educated kind of people do such thing to a 2 yrs old kid. this is in justice. her smile even cost 1million i think cuz i never seen her does. all i see a ugly fat face will full of insecurities in the world.

my xray: i was waiting for almost 3 hours before my name was called what a hell.

Second day: for my son skin test= positive need to undergo xray waited 2 hrs and 36 minutes before his name called.after that were about to went on out when our names was called on xray room again. i said why what happen they ACCIDENTALLY DELETE my son xray. what the hell. done with my immunization but my son still on wait. again what a hell of waiting.

Last day : this is really a bullS**t. i went there 5am drop my son receipt, 2-3 hrs past no JAmes Angelo called. our flight will be due on 2:50 pm. i ask the window a many times all they said wait for ur name to be called. well i cannot wait anymore than long so i went to security and ask where can i complain, but he told me to go to window G and tell them what happen. so i went and they said thet james report is just finalize by the doctor. and we will just wait to immunization room. i was like, "we went here morning yesterday, so u mean my son record was set aside after those time, till now no doctor sign my son case. do this sacrifice is included on our payment? we already book our plane ticket for today dont tell me we need to rebook it again and again. i hope u people give some consideration for those who travel far far just to take this medical exam. " its already 11 am yet my son names wasnt called, my mom inlaw keep calling me and aksing what happen, she even wanted to talk to the head of the st. lukes, but i said no mom. i was crying already , very pissed , very worried and very disappointed with them. i guess many will recognize me there, with teary eye and always complaining where is my son paper. my son is restless already, lucky he found some playment there who ease his feeling. this is really redicolous. this is ####. all they give us is wasted our 6-12 hrs of waiting, every body is hungry, everybody is thirsty everybidy is waiting for their names to be call, everybidy is unhappy. why do we need to exprecience all of this, why ? look they have high equipment which i believed will help them to make there job quicker, but it seem this high techonology didnt help them. anyway after 10 hrs of waiting my sin name finally called at immunization room, he was sleeping when they give him shot. i like those nurse who gave me and my son shot, he is so nice and he help u dont feel to much pain. he even handed me his emial add he said my son is cute, ( his a gay lol ) but really i like him, hs nice and he cares. people at immunization wing is the only nice people in entire center and also the securities, rest of them are lazy worms. well im sorry but this expreceince really broke my heart. wo we waited for other 2 hrs for the releasing center. all in all we were there for 12 hrs of wasted time.

i still thank GOD for this exprecience ithank those people i met there who was there with me when i keep complaining who talk to me to ease my temper, i met some VJ member JESSA and TRIN, i also met some people who is not a member but i told them to check the site cuz it will help many for the journey. i met kids who become my son playmate during the time. i thank GOD for those people who He let me interact when i was restless and hopeless. this is really the most unforgettable bad expreinced i had in my whole life and wont forget it. thank ST. LUKES for wasting our time and our money. u are the beast.

thanks to all VJ for reading my MEDICAL TORTURE EXPRECIENCED.

I agree with you..I really think SLEC is scamming people because they know people have to have the exam.

First SLEC increased the medical fee because they said it was because of the new vaccination requirements. However, most people will not even get

most of these vaccinations yet they still charge everyone for these vaccinations. Shouldn't it be you pay for the vaccinations you receive?

In America you only pay for what you get.

Second, they charge the medical exam in USD at the current PHP exchange rate. Why do they do this...because they are making money off the exchange ratewhich they over inflate.

When my wife got her medical exam SLEC exchange rate was 47-1, I checked the current rate at that time and it was just over 46-1.

I think it is time for all of us husbands and fiancees here in America to write our Congress and report what is going on there.

SLEC cannot keep take advantage of people like this and treating people as they do.

right. let do some petition for this i will be the one in line. and u know what they seem like a stock market who raise payment that quick. then they only give us a slow in just services. what a shame for them.

[AllRightsReserved 0]

Sorry to hear about this Bevs...This triples my worry. There have been previous cases like yours also. How come an x-ray will get deleted? I remember a case here when she was told her x-ray result was negative, upon getting the result she was told that she needs a repeat x-ray 'coz her x-ray film was accidentally discarded???????I can't exactly remember what happened but I think she argued and made a stand. Me and my 2 girls will soon be having our medical too, making everything to load ourselves just to be fit and healthy during the medical proper. We also had a pre-med and had good results. Now, with St.Luke's no one can tell what circumstances may arise. Should things turn out bad, I will be prompted to ask my uncle's assistance who happens to be an old time pediatrician at the main St.Luke's Hosp.. Siiigghhhhhhh...

Congratulations Bevs..you still won!

Edited September 7, 2008 by AllRightsReserved

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Sorry to know about your situation with SLEC.

All I can really reply with is, "Welcome to hell, which is the immigration process!" You are from the Phil so you have first hand knowledge and experience with waiting to get anything done that is government related. Well, this is no different. However, the doctor raising his/her voice at your son was out of hand. The great thing is that this is all for a greater purpose that will be fullfilled in the near future.

Good luck and cheers...

Sheriff Uling

[super pr*xy 0]

bakit nga ba kaya ganyan ang mga tauhan ng gobyerno dyan? panay galit, panay masungit, ang sasama ng ugali. iniisip ko na lang na bitter sila kasi sa araw-araw na ginawa ng Diyos, sa araw-araw ng pagtatrabaho nila, di mabilang ang mga taong pinagpala na pinagsisilbihan nila. samantalang sila, kayod kabayo pero walang kaunlaran. kaya ang nagagawa na lang nila e pag-tripan at mag-power trip sa mga taong kailangan ang serbosyo nila. mabilis ang karma. tignan nyo, kayo one step closer na sa pagdating nyo sa amerika at magkakasama na kayo ng mga mahal nyo sa buhay. sila, balik trabaho pa rin bukas.. at sa makalawa.. at sa susunod na linggo, buwan at di mabilang na taon.

blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth...

[kawawa 0]

bakit nga ba kaya ganyan ang mga tauhan ng gobyerno dyan? panay galit, panay masungit, ang sasama ng ugali. iniisip ko na lang na bitter sila kasi sa araw-araw na ginawa ng Diyos, sa araw-araw ng pagtatrabaho nila, di mabilang ang mga taong pinagpala na pinagsisilbihan nila. samantalang sila, kayod kabayo pero walang kaunlaran. kaya ang nagagawa na lang nila e pag-tripan at mag-power trip sa mga taong kailangan ang serbosyo nila. mabilis ang karma. tignan nyo, kayo one step closer na sa pagdating nyo sa amerika at magkakasama na kayo ng mga mahal nyo sa buhay. sila, balik trabaho pa rin bukas.. at sa makalawa.. at sa susunod na linggo, buwan at di mabilang na taon.

blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth...

oh, yes, they think theyre superior, they think theyre, proffessional, we the customer should please them, or else were in trouble, theyre not even smiling, or what, not even look at you when you were trying to ask something, maybe texting, and more time of doing gossips to a co-worker, and if you try to get their attention, they have the guts to get mad or upset, well, its their job, if they dont like that job, then im sure a lot of people waiting to be on that position,

you are right, people workin from government are like that, not all but i can say mostly, and the funny thing, they compete each other too, if the other co workers, have new shoes, then shell buy new shoes too ( same brand, same design) isnt its cute???? they look like twin, im sure some of us here experinced this, this is what happen to my local health center, darn, they have always brocure of natasha or, avon, always looking for something new but same same!!! lol,

sorry for this, but its the reality,

well, thats life, what i can say?

[lokashadow04 0]

Bevs...sorry to hear that....nakakainis sa sarile mong bansa at nagbayad ng di birong halaga tratuhin ka ng di maka tao..well im so sad to hear abt this..but anyways..ur done and passed..Congrats and goodluck to ur up coming interview!!!

God bless,

Irene

tompak pa dyan. grabe talaga pinag daan ko doon, na iyakiyak na ako sa inis, sabi nga ng tatay ng anak ko, mabuti wala sya doon or else baka daw last nya na araw doon sa st. lukes. grabe talaga sabi nya sa anak ko " alis ka dyan, huwag kang makulit , ma upo ka" sinigawan nya talaga. kaya sa inyo sino man di pa na me medical mag dala kayo ng rosary pag sa RM kayo na tapat mag rosary kayo tignan natin sino di ma iinsulto.

second time ko na din medical ito, but di naman ganiot kabagal dati ha. ngayon grabe embes nagung high tech lahat naging tapad naman sila. hay naku ewan di ko akalain yung 18,400 namin ma pupunta lang dito. nasaktan panaman tayo at anak ko tapos ganuto lang. thanks sa inyo mga pag unawa sa akin.

Makakahanap din ng katapat ung Doktorang mataba na yun balang araw...well cguro envy at jelous lang yun kasi tau may mga fafa baka cya wala kasi..waaaaaaaa!!!

Irene

[bevs 0]

I AGREE WITH U ALL HERE. IT LOOK LIKE NA KASALI SA BINAYARAN NATIN ANG KAKUPARAM NILA SA SERBESYO. GRABE TAGALA TO, SUMPA KO DI NA AKO BABALIK SA ST. LUKES NA YAN. KAHIT NG MGA MATATANDA NA NKA WHEELCHAIR AND MAY OXYGEN NANDOON DIN NAG HIHINTAY NG KALBARYO. GRABE SOBRA NA ABUSE NILA SA ATIN. WHICH IS MALI. SANA NAMAN MAGUNG FAIR LANG SILA. AND SANA NAMAN MAG DAGDAG SILA NG MGA EMPLOYER KONG DI MAN LANG NIYLA KAYA LAHAT SA ST. LUKES ATLEAST MAGIGING MADALI RIN LAHAT.

[KC♥MP 0]

Sorry to hear that this happened to you. They should have been considerate because you have a 2-year old son. At least you are done with your medical and you will not be dealing with them again. You can concentrate now on your upcoming interview. Good luck to you and I hope the interview will be easier than your medical

[Dakine 26]

Worse things have happened at St. Lukes. It's HISTORY ! Rally and move on.

The biggy is coming up!

[meljesca 0]

hello to my fellow vj's! finally after 3 days of long waiting for our medical we finally done with this bulls**t medical flows. this medical is waste of time, alot of time. i cannot imagine how slow they are like worm. forgive me but they dont deserve our high cost of payment. we pay high so we expect them to treat us fair.

my complaints.

First day: Rm10 for physical exam. i have my son with me who is 2 yrs old. his a kid, his not a child yet, most of kids are hyper, this is include my son. when the doctor ask me to take off my son clothes my son was shouting, " mom what are u doing? no mommy my toot will be seen by that doc" ofcourse his shy and feel uneasy. i said "its ok, this is just very quick" so he keep laughing and moving, and i see the doc face is ruin. my turn when my son seen me naked he asked again " mom why are u getting naked?" and i told him to sit down and behave but he didnt he is so curious of what im doing to he keep asking, when doc about to check me she shouted on my son and said " you go and behave, move " i was like what the hell? why she shouted on my son, does this include on my son medical fees? i really wanted to react but i didnt , cuz u know this is the most scary part of medical exam, i just stay quite but i was hurt. she can just told my son to behave and move w/o shouting, cuz he also know hoe to listen. i just cant imagine how this educated kind of people do such thing to a 2 yrs old kid. this is in justice. her smile even cost 1million i think cuz i never seen her does. all i see a ugly fat face will full of insecurities in the world.

my xray: i was waiting for almost 3 hours before my name was called what a hell.

Second day: for my son skin test= positive need to undergo xray waited 2 hrs and 36 minutes before his name called.after that were about to went on out when our names was called on xray room again. i said why what happen they ACCIDENTALLY DELETE my son xray. what the hell. done with my immunization but my son still on wait. again what a hell of waiting.

Last day : this is really a bullS**t. i went there 5am drop my son receipt, 2-3 hrs past no JAmes Angelo called. our flight will be due on 2:50 pm. i ask the window a many times all they said wait for ur name to be called. well i cannot wait anymore than long so i went to security and ask where can i complain, but he told me to go to window G and tell them what happen. so i went and they said thet james report is just finalize by the doctor. and we will just wait to immunization room. i was like, "we went here morning yesterday, so u mean my son record was set aside after those time, till now no doctor sign my son case. do this sacrifice is included on our payment? we already book our plane ticket for today dont tell me we need to rebook it again and again. i hope u people give some consideration for those who travel far far just to take this medical exam. " its already 11 am yet my son names wasnt called, my mom inlaw keep calling me and aksing what happen, she even wanted to talk to the head of the st. lukes, but i said no mom. i was crying already , very pissed , very worried and very disappointed with them. i guess many will recognize me there, with teary eye and always complaining where is my son paper. my son is restless already, lucky he found some playment there who ease his feeling. this is really redicolous. this is ####. all they give us is wasted our 6-12 hrs of waiting, every body is hungry, everybody is thirsty everybidy is waiting for their names to be call, everybidy is unhappy. why do we need to exprecience all of this, why ? look they have high equipment which i believed will help them to make there job quicker, but it seem this high techonology didnt help them. anyway after 10 hrs of waiting my sin name finally called at immunization room, he was sleeping when they give him shot. i like those nurse who gave me and my son shot, he is so nice and he help u dont feel to much pain. he even handed me his emial add he said my son is cute, ( his a gay lol ) but really i like him, hs nice and he cares. people at immunization wing is the only nice people in entire center and also the securities, rest of them are lazy worms. well im sorry but this expreceince really broke my heart. wo we waited for other 2 hrs for the releasing center. all in all we were there for 12 hrs of wasted time.

i still thank GOD for this exprecience ithank those people i met there who was there with me when i keep complaining who talk to me to ease my temper, i met some VJ member JESSA and TRIN, i also met some people who is not a member but i told them to check the site cuz it will help many for the journey. i met kids who become my son playmate during the time. i thank GOD for those people who He let me interact when i was restless and hopeless. this is really the most unforgettable bad expreinced i had in my whole life and wont forget it. thank ST. LUKES for wasting our time and our money. u are the beast.

thanks to all VJ for reading my MEDICAL TORTURE EXPRECIENCED.

hehe..hello vhebs..meljesca id name ko dito hindi jessa..ehhe..after all we passed and won't be back there again..lol..super talaga disaster and araw na un for us, specially kay vhebs..super kulit din ng baby niya..hehe tc vhebs...hope to see u next time..september 12 na interview ko..pls include me in your prayers..God bless everyone..gudluck

[bevs 0]

hello to my fellow vj's! finally after 3 days of long waiting for our medical we finally done with this bulls**t medical flows. this medical is waste of time, alot of time. i cannot imagine how slow they are like worm. forgive me but they dont deserve our high cost of payment. we pay high so we expect them to treat us fair.

my complaints.

First day: Rm10 for physical exam. i have my son with me who is 2 yrs old. his a kid, his not a child yet, most of kids are hyper, this is include my son. when the doctor ask me to take off my son clothes my son was shouting, " mom what are u doing? no mommy my toot will be seen by that doc" ofcourse his shy and feel uneasy. i said "its ok, this is just very quick" so he keep laughing and moving, and i see the doc face is ruin. my turn when my son seen me naked he asked again " mom why are u getting naked?" and i told him to sit down and behave but he didnt he is so curious of what im doing to he keep asking, when doc about to check me she shouted on my son and said " you go and behave, move " i was like what the hell? why she shouted on my son, does this include on my son medical fees? i really wanted to react but i didnt , cuz u know this is the most scary part of medical exam, i just stay quite but i was hurt. she can just told my son to behave and move w/o shouting, cuz he also know hoe to listen. i just cant imagine how this educated kind of people do such thing to a 2 yrs old kid. this is in justice. her smile even cost 1million i think cuz i never seen her does. all i see a ugly fat face will full of insecurities in the world.

my xray: i was waiting for almost 3 hours before my name was called what a hell.

Second day: for my son skin test= positive need to undergo xray waited 2 hrs and 36 minutes before his name called.after that were about to went on out when our names was called on xray room again. i said why what happen they ACCIDENTALLY DELETE my son xray. what the hell. done with my immunization but my son still on wait. again what a hell of waiting.

Last day : this is really a bullS**t. i went there 5am drop my son receipt, 2-3 hrs past no JAmes Angelo called. our flight will be due on 2:50 pm. i ask the window a many times all they said wait for ur name to be called. well i cannot wait anymore than long so i went to security and ask where can i complain, but he told me to go to window G and tell them what happen. so i went and they said thet james report is just finalize by the doctor. and we will just wait to immunization room. i was like, "we went here morning yesterday, so u mean my son record was set aside after those time, till now no doctor sign my son case. do this sacrifice is included on our payment? we already book our plane ticket for today dont tell me we need to rebook it again and again. i hope u people give some consideration for those who travel far far just to take this medical exam. " its already 11 am yet my son names wasnt called, my mom inlaw keep calling me and aksing what happen, she even wanted to talk to the head of the st. lukes, but i said no mom. i was crying already , very pissed , very worried and very disappointed with them. i guess many will recognize me there, with teary eye and always complaining where is my son paper. my son is restless already, lucky he found some playment there who ease his feeling. this is really redicolous. this is ####. all they give us is wasted our 6-12 hrs of waiting, every body is hungry, everybody is thirsty everybidy is waiting for their names to be call, everybidy is unhappy. why do we need to exprecience all of this, why ? look they have high equipment which i believed will help them to make there job quicker, but it seem this high techonology didnt help them. anyway after 10 hrs of waiting my sin name finally called at immunization room, he was sleeping when they give him shot. i like those nurse who gave me and my son shot, he is so nice and he help u dont feel to much pain. he even handed me his emial add he said my son is cute, ( his a gay lol ) but really i like him, hs nice and he cares. people at immunization wing is the only nice people in entire center and also the securities, rest of them are lazy worms. well im sorry but this expreceince really broke my heart. wo we waited for other 2 hrs for the releasing center. all in all we were there for 12 hrs of wasted time.

i still thank GOD for this exprecience ithank those people i met there who was there with me when i keep complaining who talk to me to ease my temper, i met some VJ member JESSA and TRIN, i also met some people who is not a member but i told them to check the site cuz it will help many for the journey. i met kids who become my son playmate during the time. i thank GOD for those people who He let me interact when i was restless and hopeless. this is really the most unforgettable bad expreinced i had in my whole life and wont forget it. thank ST. LUKES for wasting our time and our money. u are the beast.

thanks to all VJ for reading my MEDICAL TORTURE EXPRECIENCED.

hehe..hello vhebs..meljesca id name ko dito hindi jessa..ehhe..after all we passed and won't be back there again..lol..super talaga disaster and araw na un for us, specially kay vhebs..super kulit din ng baby niya..hehe tc vhebs...hope to see u next time..september 12 na interview ko..pls include me in your prayers..God bless everyone..gudluck

thanks jes. good luck on your up coming interview and promise i will include u on my prayers, sino pa ba mag tutolongan tayo lang mga VJ's. good luck ha? lumipat na ba kayo ng hotel?

[meljesca 0]

hello to my fellow vj's! finally after 3 days of long waiting for our medical we finally done with this bulls**t medical flows. this medical is waste of time, alot of time. i cannot imagine how slow they are like worm. forgive me but they dont deserve our high cost of payment. we pay high so we expect them to treat us fair.

my complaints.

First day: Rm10 for physical exam. i have my son with me who is 2 yrs old. his a kid, his not a child yet, most of kids are hyper, this is include my son. when the doctor ask me to take off my son clothes my son was shouting, " mom what are u doing? no mommy my toot will be seen by that doc" ofcourse his shy and feel uneasy. i said "its ok, this is just very quick" so he keep laughing and moving, and i see the doc face is ruin. my turn when my son seen me naked he asked again " mom why are u getting naked?" and i told him to sit down and behave but he didnt he is so curious of what im doing to he keep asking, when doc about to check me she shouted on my son and said " you go and behave, move " i was like what the hell? why she shouted on my son, does this include on my son medical fees? i really wanted to react but i didnt , cuz u know this is the most scary part of medical exam, i just stay quite but i was hurt. she can just told my son to behave and move w/o shouting, cuz he also know hoe to listen. i just cant imagine how this educated kind of people do such thing to a 2 yrs old kid. this is in justice. her smile even cost 1million i think cuz i never seen her does. all i see a ugly fat face will full of insecurities in the world.

my xray: i was waiting for almost 3 hours before my name was called what a hell.

Second day: for my son skin test= positive need to undergo xray waited 2 hrs and 36 minutes before his name called.after that were about to went on out when our names was called on xray room again. i said why what happen they ACCIDENTALLY DELETE my son xray. what the hell. done with my immunization but my son still on wait. again what a hell of waiting.

Last day : this is really a bullS**t. i went there 5am drop my son receipt, 2-3 hrs past no JAmes Angelo called. our flight will be due on 2:50 pm. i ask the window a many times all they said wait for ur name to be called. well i cannot wait anymore than long so i went to security and ask where can i complain, but he told me to go to window G and tell them what happen. so i went and they said thet james report is just finalize by the doctor. and we will just wait to immunization room. i was like, "we went here morning yesterday, so u mean my son record was set aside after those time, till now no doctor sign my son case. do this sacrifice is included on our payment? we already book our plane ticket for today dont tell me we need to rebook it again and again. i hope u people give some consideration for those who travel far far just to take this medical exam. " its already 11 am yet my son names wasnt called, my mom inlaw keep calling me and aksing what happen, she even wanted to talk to the head of the st. lukes, but i said no mom. i was crying already , very pissed , very worried and very disappointed with them. i guess many will recognize me there, with teary eye and always complaining where is my son paper. my son is restless already, lucky he found some playment there who ease his feeling. this is really redicolous. this is ####. all they give us is wasted our 6-12 hrs of waiting, every body is hungry, everybody is thirsty everybidy is waiting for their names to be call, everybidy is unhappy. why do we need to exprecience all of this, why ? look they have high equipment which i believed will help them to make there job quicker, but it seem this high techonology didnt help them. anyway after 10 hrs of waiting my sin name finally called at immunization room, he was sleeping when they give him shot. i like those nurse who gave me and my son shot, he is so nice and he help u dont feel to much pain. he even handed me his emial add he said my son is cute, ( his a gay lol ) but really i like him, hs nice and he cares. people at immunization wing is the only nice people in entire center and also the securities, rest of them are lazy worms. well im sorry but this expreceince really broke my heart. wo we waited for other 2 hrs for the releasing center. all in all we were there for 12 hrs of wasted time.

i still thank GOD for this exprecience ithank those people i met there who was there with me when i keep complaining who talk to me to ease my temper, i met some VJ member JESSA and TRIN, i also met some people who is not a member but i told them to check the site cuz it will help many for the journey. i met kids who become my son playmate during the time. i thank GOD for those people who He let me interact when i was restless and hopeless. this is really the most unforgettable bad expreinced i had in my whole life and wont forget it. thank ST. LUKES for wasting our time and our money. u are the beast.

thanks to all VJ for reading my MEDICAL TORTURE EXPRECIENCED.

hehe..hello vhebs..meljesca id name ko dito hindi jessa..ehhe..after all we passed and won't be back there again..lol..super talaga disaster and araw na un for us, specially kay vhebs..super kulit din ng baby niya..hehe tc vhebs...hope to see u next time..september 12 na interview ko..pls include me in your prayers..God bless everyone..gudluck

thanks jes. good luck on your up coming interview and promise i will include u on my prayers, sino pa ba mag tutolongan tayo lang mga VJ's. good luck ha? lumipat na ba kayo ng hotel?

pacencxa na ngaun lang ulit nakanet..hehe...hindi na kami lumipat kasi dun na lang daw sabi ng fiance ko kasi mas safe daw dun..ehhe...pls vhebs include me sa prayers mo...thanks...God bless