Affair while Married

[morocco4ever 63]

In his case his infidelity.

You mentioned above, is this was part of your situation from the past? I think I read your husband received intent of denial of letter, but after nearly 1 year and your persistent effort 2nd interview went well. I didnt know what was behind then reason for initial denial.

thanks

Sorry, that was misleading. When I said "In his case infidelity" I was referring to your friend. Neither my husband or I were married when we met. Ours was a little more complicated. He has family here in the US. By the questions they asked it was apparent that they thought his sister paid me to marry him. It was all a misunderstanding that started when they asked him what family he has here and his response was his sister and ex brother in law. They thought those two were married, but his sister that is here is still married to the man that petitioned her. The ex is from his other sister that has never been here at all. It mushroomed from there. The sister incident was not mentioned in the NOIR, but I addressed in my rebuttal regardless. After his interview he received my rebuttal back, and on it was a stick it note on the section explaining the confusion. It simply said "his sister". We waited an additional 15 months due to this confusion. It was a nightmare. This is why I stress so much getting it all out in the open in the petition, so it won't haunt you later at the consulate.

[RandyM 0]

Since, there are some opinion in this thread to be straight forward and to be best, it is his intention, and it is the best way to go. There are no fraud here it is a genuine relationship, and the terrible thing happened is he left wife due to marriage issues and had had an extra marital affair for few years, with new partner (fiancee).

He was not clear as to how to address this in the initial filling and at the interview. and once it reaches to the interview phase, I am assuming they will questions the girl.

As mentioned above, there isn't a need to hide, because of child's' filling of k2 or k4 and they will see the timeline and it would match with the letter "How me met". during existing marriage (past). Some suggested hide the child, and change meeting date to more recent after divorce and all will go well, and than file for a child. I have read and seen cases like this all over this forum and other, they are not straight forward in asking. However, I believe they are ill advised and foolish, it may or may work, and huge risk involved possibly a ban.

Anyway, How to be better prepared, from filling to interview?

USCIS may need a reason to put the file away and re-visit after a year or 2, for some minor confusion or suspicion. Similar to what happened with morroco4ever, so, better prepared from filling to interview.

Thanks again.

Thanks

In his case his infidelity.

You mentioned above, is this was part of your situation from the past? I think I read your husband received intent of denial of letter, but after nearly 1 year and your persistent effort 2nd interview went well. I didnt know what was behind then reason for initial denial.

thanks

Sorry, that was misleading. When I said "In his case infidelity" I was referring to your friend. Neither my husband or I were married when we met. Ours was a little more complicated. He has family here in the US. By the questions they asked it was apparent that they thought his sister paid me to marry him. It was all a misunderstanding that started when they asked him what family he has here and his response was his sister and ex brother in law. They thought those two were married, but his sister that is here is still married to the man that petitioned her. The ex is from his other sister that has never been here at all. It mushroomed from there. The sister incident was not mentioned in the NOIR, but I addressed in my rebuttal regardless. After his interview he received my rebuttal back, and on it was a stick it note on the section explaining the confusion. It simply said "his sister". We waited an additional 15 months due to this confusion. It was a nightmare. This is why I stress so much getting it all out in the open in the petition, so it won't haunt you later at the consulate.

[bhajishah 4]

No problem Infedelity is not against the law in USA. despite the brokenheats kids relation ship and society. ...

[Delete Me 0]

From my own personal experience in my "Nearly" similiar situation.

I met my fiancee and her family when I was getting married in 2001 to another girl overseas. Fastforward 5 years and a failed marraige My fiancee and I started our relationship (BUT AFTER I FILED DIVORCE PAPERS) I became Godfather to her 2 nephews during my past marraige..

My advice is to just tell the truth and don't think about hiding anything. During my fiancees interview she had to answer some questions about our relationship and was asked if she was the reason for my divorce (she wasn't).

Be honest, and lay all of your cards on the table. Im sure they have seen just about any situation possible.

Goodluck

Thanks for being brave and straightforward, I have a question, what did you included in your petition (I-129F0 regarding relationship, and what type of questions were they?

All of this is from my Jan 2008 visit.

I included my airline boarding passes, pic of us outside the hotel (hotel name displayed behind us) I stayed at along with the receipt. Pics with the family and her, receipts for the class I took for being the Godfather to my Fiancees nephew (he is named after me)during my visit. Western Union receipts, Some do say atm receipts and western union only shows your are sending someone money, But we chose to include them. We included many pics of "us" together doing different things and in different clothes so it didnt apper to be all in one day. Pics of all of us at the baptismal ceromony.

At the interview she was asked if she was the reason I got a divorce, Why she loves me, and if the age gap was a problem. A few questions about my ex wife. In my case my ex was remarried as soon as she was able to after the divorce. Personal details on how you met and about the relationship. My fiancee gave the answers but did not give extra details unless she was asked. You don't want to give the appearance to be hiding anything. there's a little more to my situation than I posted, but basically In my opinion be honest and things should workout.

Edited September 25, 2008 by Buksol

[KimandRuss 0]

Geeez i'm almost sorry I came back to read this thread. What's with the drama? And what's with the judgemental attitudes? This is a forum for support not critisizing. The guy just asked a question... he didn't ask to be interrogated. I think we can all try a little harder to respect each others opinions and get off our high-judgemental horses. And whomever mentioned the bible.. not everyone reads or lives by thet standards set in your bible... remember that.

Often a marriage is over well before any papers are filed or it is deemed 'over' by the government. In many places you have to wait for months or sometimes years just to be able to file. Ask me how I know??? Do not judge me.. or others.. until you have walked in my/our shoes. In any case, why do you even care? And why do you think your opinion entitles you to be cruel to another human being because you disagree with their 'morals'? I dont get that. How does it effect you if this guy did cheat? And how do you know his wife wasn't a viscious cow? We know nothing besides what we've been told here and we weren't asked for our personal opinions on the morals of the matter.

IMO a couple in love is a lot easier to stomach than a fraudulent relationship and I believe the government feels the same.

"Let he who has no faults cast the first stone"

To the OP... the uscis cares little about the circumstances of your meeting, i'm sure. Just have them answer the question about how they met. We included an attachment which simply listed our timeline. At the interview the CO did ask if we were 'together' while I was still married to my ex husband and Russell just stated that our intimate relationship began when my ex had already been well out of the house. It just took me years to get the divorce. It was of little concern to her.

Now, that being said...this is New Zealand i'm talking about, which is not a high fraud post. As mentioned above, at some of the more difficult Consulates they will use anything they can to fuel the fire, including this...and whether it's 'legal' or not, so if this couple is interviewing at a higher fraud post they will need to choose their words and supporting evidence wisely.

I do hope that others here have not turned you off to posting with us. Your questions are sure to help others.

good luck to them and to you

[rrobin 2]

I think this might be relevant to this thread,

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/li...0,4512985.story

[Labhrais 6]

I think this might be relevant to this thread,

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/li...0,4512985.story

That's a very interesting article. From it: "...Certainly having had an affair while married isn't absolute proof that your marriage was a sham... As for good moral character, adultery isn't a bar to naturalization unless it results in the breaking up of a marriage."

Given that adultery means that one was having an intimate affair while one of the parties was still technically married, it would indeed seem that even if the K1 was approved and a visa granted, naturalization could still be an issue depending on when it was filed and whether or not 3-5 years had passed.

Sounds like cheaters should be wary of the endgame regardless of admittance.

While the passage of time might cure a moral turpitude deficiency in law, perhaps the question to ask is whether or not it will cure a moral turpitude deficiency in character.

[Mags 112]

This is a forum for support not critisizing. The guy just asked a question... he didn't ask to be interrogated. I think we can all try a little harder to respect each others opinions and get off our high-judgemental horses.

Absolutely. Keep the judgemental comments to yourselves and, instead, help the OP if you can.

Thanks, all.