Affair while Married

[RandyM 0]

Ling Ling,

Thanks for the advice, he realizes he need to end his divorce and file i-129F within dates after getting a decree. No domestic violence, or criminal records, he also knows, I-134 will be requested at the interview. And if he is short on income, he will have a family member give him i-134 with suppotimg document.

Looking for specific suggestion for submission and interview weather to write all this on the initial file or, JUST answer questions and provide 2 years of documentation, and other related docs to USCIS CSC.

Thanks again.

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

[RandyM 0]

Thanks,

He will get his decree than file. Main question of asking here how to file, is if you look at forms and just straightforward answer questions you will notice he cant include all this affairs and child. He is trying to be truthful, and wants to make sure it is all out in the open for USCIS, without giving them excess or too much information.

Thank you

There isn't a way to fill out the forms, only fill in the forms truthfully otherwise harsh consequences shall follow.

[IAMX 3,055]

Good luck, even though you kinda slipped up and pretty sure you're talking for yourself.

[RandyM 0]

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The issue you haven't addressed is the child. Did he file a Consular Report of Birth Abroad so his illigitimate child would have US Citizenship? If not, this should be done now, if possible.

Law States, father cannot go to his US embassy and register birth, if they are not married, (if mother is US Citizen she can do this)

Edited September 5, 2008 by RandyM

[stevi1123 0]

Ling Ling,

Thanks for the advice, he realizes he need to end his divorce and file i-129F within dates after getting a decree. No domestic violence, or criminal records, he also knows, I-134 will be requested at the interview. And if he is short on income, he will have a family member give him i-134 with suppotimg document.

Looking for specific suggestion for submission and interview weather to write all this on the initial file or, JUST answer questions and provide 2 years of documentation, and other related docs to USCIS CSC.

Thanks again.

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

There are no true/false or multiple choice or essay questions on the I-129f form. This is not a "free form" type of application. You answer the questions as they are asked. This is the United States Government. It boils down to you tell the truth or you reap what you sow later.

Please advise your "friend" to spend some time reading the guides at the top of the page here, and just take the time to educate "himself" on the process.

But there is no "I think I will answer this question this way and that question that way" when it comes to this process.

Good Luck to your "Friend"

[RandyM 0]

Divorce will be final, and after few days I-129f submission. This is for Fiance visa and marriage within 90 days of arrival in the USA.

I-129F is fairly simple and on 2nd page put child name(K2)

"Letter how we met with past 2 years" Part B line 18, he would write place and date and few other details. This is the only place to air it out and bring it to their attent IF NEEDED. They may say he held material fact, if not mentioned. Is it possible for them to moral attack him from petition side and her from interview side.

Confused, what he should disclose and what on initial filling and Part B line 18

Thanks again

He can't do anything until his divorce is final. If he then does as you say and marries his foreign girlfriend, she isn't a fiancee anymore, so he would file for CR1 or K3, not a K1 fiancee visa.

For a fiancee visa, they must have seen each other in person during the past two years. For a spouse, the marriage makes that point moot. He can simply explain when and how they met without referring to "infidelity". They'll get the picture when they compare the date of divorce to the date the couple's child was born and it would not become an issue in the visa process. Getting a divorce and marrying a mistress is an old story.

The issue you haven't addressed is the child. Did he file a Consular Report of Birth Abroad so his illigitimate child would have US Citizenship? If not, this should be done now, if possible.

In which country does the foreign girlfried reside and have citizenship? It could make a difference in a number of ways.

Edited September 5, 2008 by RandyM

[richo 0]

I dont think some people in here like what you're "FRIEND" did....just observing..I dont either..but who am I to judge?

Edited September 5, 2008 by richo

[RandyM 0]

Thanks Friend,

This is exactly what he is trying to do, they way I-129F is designed, there is no place for him to write. Yo just fill in, they only exception is Part B question 18 "meeting in the past 2 years" so, I assume this can be considered an essay of the meeting in free form. Pushbrk mentioned just to write how you met provide photo etc, and they will 2 and 2 together and see he was married when they met and later had baby,

Thanks

Ling Ling,

Thanks for the advice, he realizes he need to end his divorce and file i-129F within dates after getting a decree. No domestic violence, or criminal records, he also knows, I-134 will be requested at the interview. And if he is short on income, he will have a family member give him i-134 with suppotimg document.

Looking for specific suggestion for submission and interview weather to write all this on the initial file or, JUST answer questions and provide 2 years of documentation, and other related docs to USCIS CSC.

Thanks again.

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

There are no true/false or multiple choice or essay questions on the I-129f form. This is not a "free form" type of application. You answer the questions as they are asked. This is the United States Government. It boils down to you tell the truth or you reap what you sow later.

Please advise your "friend" to spend some time reading the guides at the top of the page here, and just take the time to educate "himself" on the process.

But there is no "I think I will answer this question this way and that question that way" when it comes to this process.

Good Luck to your "Friend"

[RandyM 0]

Well this is Life, things happened. Unfortunately, this forum and other marriage based forums are full of divorces, and people are looking for guidance and support.

I also want to thank other posters with similar situation for their input and sharing, and coming forward with similar past situation.

God Bless.

I dont think some people in here like what you're "FRIEND" did....just observing..I dont either..but who am I to judge?

Edited September 5, 2008 by RandyM

[pushbrk 12,908]

Law States, father cannot go to his US embassy and register birth[/b], if they are not married, (if mother is US Citizen she can do this)

This is not correct. Read here: http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/ne...gistration.html

Child born out of wedlock to a U.S. Citizen father: A child born outside of the United States to an U.S. Citizen father where there is no marriage to the non-American mother is entitled to U.S. Citizenship providing the American citizen father had been physically present in the United States for the period of time as specified in previous paragraphs for children born in wedlock to one U.S. Citizen and one non-U.S. Citizen parent, either before or after November 14, 1986; and

the alien mother completes an "Affidavit to establish paternity of child" at this office before a consular officer; and

the father signs a sworn statement （Affidavit of Paternity and Statement of Support）acknowledging paternity and agreeing to provide financial support for the child until s/he reaches the age of 18 years; or

the child is legitimated under local law (note: this is not possible under Chinese law); or

paternity is established by a competent court before the child attains the age of 18 years;

I'm sure similar instructions can be found on the website of any US Consulate.

[Devkpaik 1]

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

Haha, that's hilarious. I've never understood why people lie and say "a friend of mine is in this situation", or "im asking this for my friend". Why can't your friend just sign up and ask the question him/herself?

[msu17 0]

Not an uncommon circumstance on here to have the non-USC get pregnant before the K1 is approved. Those kids ARE USC's, just need to file the paperwork. Get on it.

This is not correct. Read here: http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/ne...gistration.html

Child born out of wedlock to a U.S. Citizen father: A child born outside of the United States to an U.S. Citizen father where there is no marriage to the non-American mother is entitled to U.S. Citizenship providing the American citizen father had been physically present in the United States for the period of time as specified in previous paragraphs for children born in wedlock to one U.S. Citizen and one non-U.S. Citizen parent, either before or after November 14, 1986; and

the alien mother completes an "Affidavit to establish paternity of child" at this office before a consular officer; and

the father signs a sworn statement （Affidavit of Paternity and Statement of Support）acknowledging paternity and agreeing to provide financial support for the child until s/he reaches the age of 18 years; or

the child is legitimated under local law (note: this is not possible under Chinese law); or

paternity is established by a competent court before the child attains the age of 18 years;

I'm sure similar instructions can be found on the website of any US Consulate.

[TrueSelf 0]

No one is lying or pretending to be someone, I am familiar with his entire situation for a long time, and just as a person may say "you" in a sentence, implaying any 3rd party, same here as "we met" or I referring to poster.

I dont think this is "Hilarious" or funny, there are people here in need looking for help, support, guidance.

I truly wish you get your Fiancee from Thailand, Karpun Karp.

The POINT here is asking for help in a certain scenerio, it could be anyone.

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

Haha, that's hilarious. I've never understood why people lie and say "a friend of mine is in this situation", or "im asking this for my friend". Why can't your friend just sign up and ask the question him/herself?

[RandyM 0]

Thanks True,

There are lots of replies and looks like there are some solutions, some are just having fun.

No worries.

No one is lying or pretending to be someone, I am familiar with his entire situation for a long time, and just as a person may say "you" in a sentence, implaying any 3rd party, same here as "we met" or I referring to poster.

I dont think this is "Hilarious" or funny, there are people here in need looking for help, support, guidance.

I truly wish you get your Fiancee from Thailand, Karpun Karp.

The POINT here is asking for help in a certain scenerio, it could be anyone.

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

Haha, that's hilarious. I've never understood why people lie and say "a friend of mine is in this situation", or "im asking this for my friend". Why can't your friend just sign up and ask the question him/herself?

[Devkpaik 1]

No one is lying or pretending to be someone, I am familiar with his entire situation for a long time, and just as a person may say "you" in a sentence, implaying any 3rd party, same here as "we met" or I referring to poster.

I dont think this is "Hilarious" or funny, there are people here in need looking for help, support, guidance.

I truly wish you get your Fiancee from Thailand, Karpun Karp.

The POINT here is asking for help in a certain scenerio, it could be anyone.

Thanks,

You are mentioning follow I-129f , If he follow, only think he have to mention is the name and date of prior marriages, and the letter how we met, they are just looking to see if we met in the past 2 years. Well there is a big event took place. infidelity, how that supposed to be submitted or is this out of their guideline.

Thank agan

First you wrote, "A FRIEND is in this situation".

Then you wrote "how WE met"....HA busted.

While some Consulates frown on age gaps and previous marriages,

as others have said, they don't deny people because of infidelity. They do care that he's currently married.

He can't petition for an I-129f until he's divorced. They do care that he will need sufficient income to support you.

They also care that you have met in the last 2 years...I think your little bundle of joy (or their birth certificate) will be pretty damned good proof that you two have "met".

NOW...while things aren't going well for him at home, make sure he doesn't make things any worse while he's trying to get out of the marriage.

He needs to get out clean. If there's any domestic violence, or orders of protection, that could be cause for petition denial.

The USA doesn't want you coming here and getting into a dangerous situation. The USA doesn't want to help import victims.

You'll find that most VJers are very intelligent, open minded, people who understand the complexities of life and relationships.

We understand that ####### happens, and that beautiful unexpected things happen, like falling in love with someone in a distant country.

We just hope and pray that after all this hard work, ####### doesn't happen to any of us, and that we can live happily ever after.

Welcome to our community.

Haha, that's hilarious. I've never understood why people lie and say "a friend of mine is in this situation", or "im asking this for my friend". Why can't your friend just sign up and ask the question him/herself?

Trueself,

You're obviously misunderstanding. Did I EVER say it was funny or hilarious people are on here looking for help? Do you not see me posting answers and trying to answer questions on here on a daily basis? I would like for you to find where I said that it's funny that people are in need of answers on this site. I did, however, say it's funny that people feel the need to say that they are asking a question for a friend, then the next post later slip up and ask the question as if it was for themselves. I was laughing at LingLing's comment about how they first said it was for their friend, then next they asked as it was their own question.

There's a world of difference between what you claimed I said and what I actually said. If you re-read the post you'll see. But, let's not make a big deal out of is, as it's a misunderstanding. No need to reply further and waste thread space.

Also, thanks for hoping my fiance gets her visa, but she already got her visa in July, so she's coming here in 10 days.