okay guys Im asking for some help

[Seattle2Cebu 0]

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

she emailed me and she did get out of the house and is staying with a friend. I guess my next step is to try

to find some legal aid in her area.

Some things I found odd about it is that she had breast implant surgery in the Philippines before coming here,

he paid for that, and I assume he wanted that done, and he also paid for ### implants if you can believe that one.

I didnt even know they had that.

So I asked her for more info on whats going on, and she said he didnt want to pay to get her teeth fixed for 5,000

and also she needed a chin implant.. It all sounds kinda wierd to me. If this is all true, and I do believe the first

surgeries are, because my ex fiance told me about that when she was still over there waiting to come here.

It sounds like the guy wanted to make some kind of woman out of her instead of accepting her as she is.. Im just

thinking that is in her favour. She told me he was abusive verbally, and I believe that, but there is no proven

physical abuse.

Regretfully i had a very bad year and Im too broke to help her get a lawyer. Here in Seattle they have legal aid

for immigrants, but I dont know about where she is. I will find out just where it is she is exactly and see

what is available there.

He is wanting her to sign the divorce papers and ship her out. She also said he didnt want to pay for the adjusment

of status and all the expenses... Well he should know about that before bringing her here. He really sounds like

an oddball with the surgury etc..

She didnt pan out to be some kind of fantasy sex servant, and so he wants her gone asap, which I think is a little

suspicious, wanting to get rid of her, and being vindictive etc. or get rid of her before the whole story gets out

or she gets help.

Ill see what I can come up with

First things first. What does she want to do? GO home or stay?

Not sure how you can even get involved with a person you don't even know over the internet. For all you know, you are dealing with a big fat hairy 50 year guy that is getting his kicks. Who was that, that said there is a sucker born every minute?

P.T. Barnum - There is a sucker born every minute, and two to take him.

So - ####### job expense was OK, but AOS expense was not? I think there must have been something else going on.

Yeah, when you find contradictions like that, you know, or should know that something isn't right. Can just as easily sign up for one of the many free e-mail sites, put in some kind of fake user ID, and really post some sad stories here to get a 50 some odd response, so guess who else is being suckered. Always one side of the story, but guess it's a good place to vent, even for your own personal problems.

[desert_fox 32]

Sounds like the kind of woman I would avoid. Let's see...the guy paid for a ####### job, paid for somthing else, but balks at paying for 5,000 worth of dental.....this is abuse?????

She needs to just go home...

[NickD 203]

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

It's fiancé by the way, but what would I know being a moron, and note the ex in front of it, seems like someone else also has a problem. With family working in the medical field, lot's of people with worse problems than hers. But you genuinely are showing an interest in her. Could keep that to yourself, bail her out, and even marry her. But it also seems you have a problem with money, or lack of it.

Some problems, like health, unfortunately some people are born with them, others are self made, how would you judge, her problems? Will she learn a lesson from this or even make more problems? Perhaps even for you.

[richo 0]

So ok she wanted to stay here without a status eventhough her husband is willing to pay for her ticket to go home and be home to the phils and to safely be with her family...so she still choose to be in here and seems like finding a way (like being abuse) just for her to stay here and still have her green card. SOrry sounds like a bull to me...if she really was abuse and need to save her life and be away fromthis guy..she should've accepted the ticket to go home..few filipinos have choose to go home because their not happy with their husband than just to still be here and live the "american dream"???!!?? somethings not right...she had got to straighten out her stories and her "real purpose" of being in here. If the story doesnt fit...it start to stink

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

It's fiancé by the way, but what would I know being a moron, and note the ex in front of it, seems like someone else also has a problem. With family working in the medical field, lot's of people with worse problems than hers. But you genuinely are showing an interest in her. Could keep that to yourself, bail her out, and even marry her. But it also seems you have a problem with money, or lack of it.

Some problems, like health, unfortunately some people are born with them, others are self made, how would you judge, her problems? Will she learn a lesson from this or even make more problems? Perhaps even for you.

Ok then why dont she go home..and be safe with her family? Given the fact that the guy is willing to buy a ticket for her?? some wont do that

Edited September 6, 2008 by richo

[Passing.star 0]

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

You have been taken advantage of many times with different girls so I guess helping this girl is the right thing to do, Seattlecebu. I know that your heart is too soft so that's why you have to think twice or a millions times before getting involve with another stranger. If she has a mind on her own she should oppose from the very start about this operations that her fiance' wants but to do it many times I guess she likes it. Who knows what's really happening between them and her fiance, you didn't even hear the other side of the story.

she emailed me and she did get out of the house and is staying with a friend. I guess my next step is to try

to find some legal aid in her area.

Some things I found odd about it is that she had breast implant surgery in the Philippines before coming here,

he paid for that, and I assume he wanted that done, and he also paid for ### implants if you can believe that one.

I didnt even know they had that.

So I asked her for more info on whats going on, and she said he didnt want to pay to get her teeth fixed for 5,000

and also she needed a chin implant.. It all sounds kinda wierd to me. If this is all true, and I do believe the first

surgeries are, because my ex fiance told me about that when she was still over there waiting to come here.

It sounds like the guy wanted to make some kind of woman out of her instead of accepting her as she is.. Im just

thinking that is in her favour. She told me he was abusive verbally, and I believe that, but there is no proven

physical abuse.

Regretfully i had a very bad year and Im too broke to help her get a lawyer. Here in Seattle they have legal aid

for immigrants, but I dont know about where she is. I will find out just where it is she is exactly and see

what is available there.

He is wanting her to sign the divorce papers and ship her out. She also said he didnt want to pay for the adjusment

of status and all the expenses... Well he should know about that before bringing her here. He really sounds like

an oddball with the surgury etc..

She didnt pan out to be some kind of fantasy sex servant, and so he wants her gone asap, which I think is a little

suspicious, wanting to get rid of her, and being vindictive etc. or get rid of her before the whole story gets out

or she gets help.

Ill see what I can come up with

First things first. What does she want to do? GO home or stay?

Not sure how you can even get involved with a person you don't even know over the internet. For all you know, you are dealing with a big fat hairy 50 year guy that is getting his kicks. Who was that, that said there is a sucker born every minute?

P.T. Barnum - There is a sucker born every minute, and two to take him.

So - ####### job expense was OK, but AOS expense was not? I think there must have been something else going on.

Yeah, when you find contradictions like that, you know, or should know that something isn't right. Can just as easily sign up for one of the many free e-mail sites, put in some kind of fake user ID, and really post some sad stories here to get a 50 some odd response, so guess who else is being suckered. Always one side of the story, but guess it's a good place to vent, even for your own personal problems.

[Seattle2Cebu 0]

im not getting involved other than seeing if I could offer some options... and I am a generous person who chooses to help

out a little rather than only think of the worst... if thats a defect, then I have it. If they sucker me, its on them, and I get

credit with God, and thats all that matters.

im glad she found a place to stay till she works it out.. of course the girls want to stay here, you would to if you lived in a place

with very little opportunity and the poverty they deal with everyday.

you approach this from your perspective... go over there and get some insight into their perspective..

I dont fault anyone for wanting to better their lives..

It works both ways... the girls take any ticket out... and find themselves in less that good situations

and the guys want a younger, prettier girl than they can get on their own here..

personally I think they should do away with fiance visas altogether, and if people want to do this

they should make arrangements to travel overseas and live a year and marry and then file

a marriage visa.. if they love the person they will make a way..

just going over for a visit and signing up a girl to come here often doesnt work out

she has unreal expectations and so does he...

thats my thoughts..

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

You have been taken advantage of many times with different girls so I guess helping this girl is the right thing to do, Seattlecebu. I know that your heart is too soft so that's why you have to think twice or a millions times before getting involve with another stranger. If she has a mind on her own she should oppose from the very start about this operations that her fiance' wants but to do it many times I guess she likes it. Who knows what's really happening between them and her fiance, you didn't even hear the other side of the story.

she emailed me and she did get out of the house and is staying with a friend. I guess my next step is to try

to find some legal aid in her area.

Some things I found odd about it is that she had breast implant surgery in the Philippines before coming here,

he paid for that, and I assume he wanted that done, and he also paid for ### implants if you can believe that one.

I didnt even know they had that.

So I asked her for more info on whats going on, and she said he didnt want to pay to get her teeth fixed for 5,000

and also she needed a chin implant.. It all sounds kinda wierd to me. If this is all true, and I do believe the first

surgeries are, because my ex fiance told me about that when she was still over there waiting to come here.

It sounds like the guy wanted to make some kind of woman out of her instead of accepting her as she is.. Im just

thinking that is in her favour. She told me he was abusive verbally, and I believe that, but there is no proven

physical abuse.

Regretfully i had a very bad year and Im too broke to help her get a lawyer. Here in Seattle they have legal aid

for immigrants, but I dont know about where she is. I will find out just where it is she is exactly and see

what is available there.

He is wanting her to sign the divorce papers and ship her out. She also said he didnt want to pay for the adjusment

of status and all the expenses... Well he should know about that before bringing her here. He really sounds like

an oddball with the surgury etc..

She didnt pan out to be some kind of fantasy sex servant, and so he wants her gone asap, which I think is a little

suspicious, wanting to get rid of her, and being vindictive etc. or get rid of her before the whole story gets out

or she gets help.

Ill see what I can come up with

First things first. What does she want to do? GO home or stay?

Not sure how you can even get involved with a person you don't even know over the internet. For all you know, you are dealing with a big fat hairy 50 year guy that is getting his kicks. Who was that, that said there is a sucker born every minute?

P.T. Barnum - There is a sucker born every minute, and two to take him.

So - ####### job expense was OK, but AOS expense was not? I think there must have been something else going on.

Yeah, when you find contradictions like that, you know, or should know that something isn't right. Can just as easily sign up for one of the many free e-mail sites, put in some kind of fake user ID, and really post some sad stories here to get a 50 some odd response, so guess who else is being suckered. Always one side of the story, but guess it's a good place to vent, even for your own personal problems.

[NickD 203]

You did ask the guys for help, one example of trying to help a guy out and having in backfire on you, can be a lot worse with a woman, especially a married woman with a husband, he could get a hold of your computer, find you and kick your butt.

You called me a moron, well the IQ classification is as follows, 50-69 Moron, 20-49 Imbecile, below 20 Idiot, my actual tested IQ is 144, but my mating IQ was definitely well below 1.625 classifying me as an idiot, so calling me a moron was quite a compliment in this area of expertise. First marriage was proof of that, man, was I suckered and cleaned out. Took a eight year break after that and met hundreds of women after doing some research on this subject all trying to sucker me. They are out there, but did find one good one when I was really to return to my hermit life style. But she wasn't from the USA so encountered the USCIS instead, that was a nightmare.

In every town in this good old there is help for women in distress or abused, my wife gets involved with this in her job helping these women, how about the most recent one where a 17 year girl gets knocked up by her uncle she was living with. They have professionals dealing with these women, counselors, finding suitable homes, jobs, or educational opportunities, free medical help, and most importantly, free legal help by professional attorneys.

So where to you fit in to be of any assistance?

You want help? Stay out of it, especially with a married woman, and what is her husband's side of her story? Just have her call 1-888-696-5379 for help.

[Passing.star 0]

You have been taken advantage of many times with different girls so I guess helping this girl is the right thing to do, Seattlecebu. I know that your heart is too soft so that's why you have to think twice or a millions times before getting involve with another stranger. If she has a mind on her own she should oppose from the very start about this operations that her fiance' wants but to do it many times I guess she likes it. Who knows what's really happening between them and her fiance, you didn't even hear the other side of the story.

I am sorry about this, I got it wrong. What I mean is not the right thing to do!!!

[diadromous mermaid 36]

There's not enough information other than what has been shared by the OP to suggest that her acquaintance's plight is not real! Please stop with the speculation. It's true that she could self-petition to adjust her status, but only if she has real evidence of that abuse. She have to have it with her already, as I suspect her husband would not be inclined to cooperate now that she has left. She should lok at form I-360 for the specifics on how to file under VAWA. Also if there is a Catholic Human Charities office nearby many times they can assist with the whole VAWA petitioning.

So ok she wanted to stay here without a status eventhough her husband is willing to pay for her ticket to go home and be home to the phils and to safely be with her family...so she still choose to be in here and seems like finding a way (like being abuse) just for her to stay here and still have her green card. SOrry sounds like a bull to me...if she really was abuse and need to save her life and be away fromthis guy..she should've accepted the ticket to go home..few filipinos have choose to go home because their not happy with their husband than just to still be here and live the "american dream"???!!?? somethings not right...she had got to straighten out her stories and her "real purpose" of being in here. If the story doesnt fit...it start to stink

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

It's fiancé by the way, but what would I know being a moron, and note the ex in front of it, seems like someone else also has a problem. With family working in the medical field, lot's of people with worse problems than hers. But you genuinely are showing an interest in her. Could keep that to yourself, bail her out, and even marry her. But it also seems you have a problem with money, or lack of it.

Some problems, like health, unfortunately some people are born with them, others are self made, how would you judge, her problems? Will she learn a lesson from this or even make more problems? Perhaps even for you.

Ok then why dont she go home..and be safe with her family? Given the fact that the guy is willing to buy a ticket for her?? some wont do that

[ziia 9]

I think it's realy great to want to help someone, but if you need help in order to help, then you can't realy help too much. Have her write, if she's got access to a computer, she can explain a lot more about what she's dealing with and she can get the answears she needs directly and ask questions herself. I think your heart is in the right place, but think twice of the situations you're getting yourself into. If she wants to stay here and make it, she has to lern how to get help first. Friends are for moral support, encouragement and gudance. Recomend she gats on this site.

[Brad and Vika 129]

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

OK - I am probably inclined to give this one more try. You completely misunderstood my post. For a guy to bring a woman all the way here, get married, and then refuse to pay for AOS and health related stuff like dental care is quite strange. Especially if he IS willing to pay for plastic surgery. There is something more going on here, and I think you are seeing that from other posts as well. No one in their right mind would go to all that trouble, even for a sex puppet, and not pay for the things you have listed.

It sounds like you don't even want the rest of the story. I mean, I applaud your missionary zeal (can't say it's wise though), but consider the source of contact. There is no excuse for abuse at all, but trying to help without understanding the husbands motives for refusing to move forward seems, well.... moronic.

[richo 0]

my ex fiance chatted with her on cam and I also have chatted with her on cam ... she is real

some of you people are really morons sorry to say... gosh. and also sad you dont

care about others.

OK - I am probably inclined to give this one more try. You completely misunderstood my post. For a guy to bring a woman all the way here, get married, and then refuse to pay for AOS and health related stuff like dental care is quite strange. Especially if he IS willing to pay for plastic surgery. There is something more going on here, and I think you are seeing that from other posts as well. No one in their right mind would go to all that trouble, even for a sex puppet, and not pay for the things you have listed.

It sounds like you don't even want the rest of the story. I mean, I applaud your missionary zeal (can't say it's wise though), but consider the source of contact. There is no excuse for abuse at all, but trying to help without understanding the husbands motives for refusing to move forward seems, well.... moronic.

EXACTLY THE POINT!

[Seattle2Cebu 0]

I passed on the references you have supplied, and directed her to places for help.

I sent her some money and she has a place to stay for now.

I told her that is all i can do because I have my own problems Im working on.

I was deceived very badly by a girl and wasted a lot of resources, and I havent

recovered from that financially yet. I did a lot of reflection after that experience. I asked God

for help because my thinking wasn't reliable, and God did come and help me.

Im working on getting back in college, they have a lot more online options nowdays.

I am going to get a certificate to teach english as a second language.

I have been reading the bible a lot, and over time I have become a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.

I believe that He is who He says He is and that He rose from the dead. I am working towards

going to the Philippines and preaching the Word of God. I don't know how long I will live there,

but it will be for at least a year or two.

I would challenge anyone to read the bible for themselves, and honestly ask God for guidance.

God gives us a great peace of mind, and a happy hope in our hearts.

That was the main message that I said to this girl, whatever is going on, examine yourself, and

ask God for direction. If we turn from self-seeking, pride, and the ways of our hearts and

surrender to God, He is willing and anxious to come to us and help us, expecially in a time

of need. How wonderful and great is our God! I am so thankful each day for all that He has done

for me.

i apologize for calling anyone a moron, I said that because you suggested I dont even know who I am

talking to, and that it could be some guy. I do have two brain cells, maybe only two, but that is more than one.

For those of you who have found a suitable partner in life, I am happy for you. I dont seek anyone

any longer. I will let God take care of that. I made many bad mistakes in my life because I sought my

own way. It isnt true love because the other person makes YOU feel good. That is selfish love.

So whatever has happened, I am glad that it did, because I am where I am at now. I look forward to the

coming days. It is so nice to live without bitterness, and anger, and all the frustrations that come

from seeking my own way.

If you dont know Him, I hope that you will consider it. I am 49 years old. My only regret is that I didnt

open the door when he came to knock all those times before.

The time we have here is so short. I will be 50 in november, and how can it be possible? How fast it goes by

take care