Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Hey, well, the 9/11 bombing was from Allah, apparently. So God is basically battling multiple personalities, I guess, and belongs in a mental institution.

With proper medication and weekly visits from a case manager, I'd advocate for God to be allowed out in the community.

I'm not convinced - God's recidivism risk is high.

[natty bumppo 297]

If people like me are stupid, but I am not stupid, then I must not be like people like me.

think we need to bring out a ven diagram ....

[almaty 19]

It's customary to post a source link or you can just make it up.

Whatever the religious angle, the Republicans have two candidates with sons in the military and the Democrats don't have any but they are quick to run from Iraq to send others' sons and daughters off to Afghanistan (or perhaps Pakistan).

When do we start hearing the cries of "chickenhawk" on the Internet applied to Obama like we did for Bush?

yeah, i wrote it myself.. ....

[alienlovechild 75]

yeah, i wrote it myself.. ....

Hmmm, I must have thanked the wrong person on post #37.

[Peikko 1,575]

If people like me are stupid, but I am not stupid, then I must not be like people like me.

More Venn man!

[Peikko 1,575]

Strangely Obama doing it doesn't make it any less objectionable.

True however, there is a difference between postioning on a subject because it's god's will and trying to reach a rational position on a subject based on all the available data and then asking god to bless your decision.

Of course, as there is no evidence of what data Sarah Palin used to reach her decision that it is 'a task from god' it's a little difficult to be sure, but the absence of much rationale is indicative of itself, in my opinion.

[almaty 19]

yeah, i wrote it myself.. ....

Hmmm, I must have thanked the wrong person on post #37.

lol...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Strangely Obama doing it doesn't make it any less objectionable.

True however, there is a difference between postioning on a subject because it's god's will and trying to reach a rational position on a subject based on all the available data and then asking god to bless your decision.

Of course, as there is no evidence of what data Sarah Palin used to reach her decision that it is 'a task from god' it's a little difficult to be sure, but the absence of much rationale is indicative of itself, in my opinion.

Well there is that of course... Now that I think of it wasn't there some question of Tony Blair's religious scruples in regards to his decision-making? I figure something must explain the close relationship between TB and GWB (and he got visibly irritated at Jeremy Paxman for asking "if they pray together").

I can totally understand needing appeal to certain demographics with certain types of language (in that respect - Obama probably has work to do because the religious right are not ordinarily inclined to vote Democratic), but if these guys really do believe that God is speaking through them when they make decisions - that's pretty frightening.

[SteveLaura 0]

Well there is that of course... Now that I think of it wasn't there some question of Tony Blair's religious scruples in regards to his decision-making? I figure something must explain the close relationship between TB and GWB (and he got visibly irritated at Jeremy Paxman for asking "if they pray together").

I remember seeing that. He told Paxman that they didn't pray together and tried to laugh it off. I'd bet any money he was lying. If Bush is the God Warrior that he likes to make out he is, there's no way on Earth they wouldn't have bowed their heads together during their tete a tetes.

[Peikko 1,575]

Talking of, was it Ronald or Nancy who used to consult a medium?

Yes, Blair's religious zeal was a little troubling at times and could explain their apparant closeness and I don't really know if these people do believe what they spout or whether they are just pandering. Palin does seem to believe her own version of the religious dogma which is what worries me, creationism etc.

[Peikko 1,575]

What's interesting is that I don't find Bush 2 gives of that 'religious zeal' aura. He doesn't seem to embrace it quite so enthusiastically. It could be that's just the way he comes over though, he seems to sort of let life brush over him without taking anything very seriously.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Talking of, was it Ronald or Nancy who used to consult a medium?

Yes, Blair's religious zeal was a little troubling at times and could explain their apparant closeness and I don't really know if these people do believe what they spout or whether they are just pandering. Palin does seem to believe her own version of the religious dogma which is what worries me, creationism etc.

Yeah the abstinence-only stuff and wanting schools to teach Creationism does seem to suggest that.

Incidentally she also doesn't believe in climate change, which is something else to be a little concerned about. Bush/Cheney used that to their advantage over the last 8 years, but I believe there was a recent statement to the effect that the administration now recognises it.

Will this be a step back I wonder? Aggressive industrial expansion and ####### the consequences...

What's interesting is that I don't find Bush 2 gives of that 'religious zeal' aura. He doesn't seem to embrace it quite so enthusiastically. It could be that's just the way he comes over though, he seems to sort of let life brush over him without taking anything very seriously.

Its hard to tell - because as was mentioned yesterday a pre-requisite for being president is a belief in God (or at least saying you believe in God).

Edited September 4, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[HAL 9000 96]

damn your hide brother arijit...the right wing be coming after you..you just insulted their new crowned princess

Palin is a new face, her ideas are as old as dirt.

They're worth less, though.

Religious freak with a button.. or close to one.

We hear consequences of that time to time in the news.

Its usually been that way throughout history. Just instead of buttons they heralded trumpets to battle. Or crusades.

I dunno - I kinda find it disturbing when people talk about areas of policy (and indeed their own responsibilities) as being somehow appointed to them by a higher power. It has the smell of manifest destiny all over it.

Dude it reeks of lunacy.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

damn your hide brother arijit...the right wing be coming after you..you just insulted their new crowned princess

Palin is a new face, her ideas are as old as dirt.

They're worth less, though.

Religious freak with a button.. or close to one.

We hear consequences of that time to time in the news.

Its usually been that way throughout history. Just instead of buttons they heralded trumpets to battle. Or crusades.

I dunno - I kinda find it disturbing when people talk about areas of policy (and indeed their own responsibilities) as being somehow appointed to them by a higher power. It has the smell of manifest destiny all over it.

Dude it reeks of lunacy.

I don't know about Religious freaks but GWB's adventures in the middle-east remind me a lot of General Custer.

[HAL 9000 96]

It's customary to post a source link or you can just make it up.

Whatever the religious angle, the Republicans have two candidates with sons in the military and the Democrats don't have any but they are quick to run from Iraq to send others' sons and daughters off to Afghanistan (or perhaps Pakistan).

When do we start hearing the cries of "chickenhawk" on the Internet applied to Obama like we did for Bush?

Yeah I'm really sure he made up the article himself

Well he IS a prolific writer.

I didn't say Charles was stupid. I said people that think like him are stupid. That's NOT the same thing!

you might wish to reread what you posted.....

you really see the universe like a cartoon villain vs. a superhero, don't you? it's still difficult for me to believe people of such stupidity are born in the 21st century. Of course, it all makes sense, as you and other religious nuts (of all stripes) want us all to return to the Dark Ages.

I said you were a religious nut; I didn't say you were stupid. I said people LIKE YOU are stupid and that religious nuts are stupid.

it's amazing how you think i'm a religious nut. that has to be the post of the day!

I think most of us here can conclude that you are... into the whole MISSIONARY [position] thing. (as most of us guys I presume! )