The VA Continues to Abandon Returning Vets

[HAL 9000 96]

Or you could just do the system right by actually funding (*novel though*) the needed care instead of wasting it away for insurance companies and ridiculous overhead.

it's funny that you speak of that while talking about a government program.

Yes there is quite a bit of irony involved isn't it?

Then again, leadership could mandate efficiency. Heck if PHS can do it with bad management, so could a well-managed NHS.

i'm not going to hold my breath on that one. i can't think of a single government project that came in under budget.

That tends to happen when the defense budget is pushed towards blank-check status.

But yes... if we don't try it then there's really nothing to hold our collective breath over.

kinda like drilling for more oil?

Sure... when you know you have enough oil to make a significant difference. Hate to make you breathe there buddy... but there ain't enough. Not now, not in 10 years.

Not for our demand.

Now healthcare... well that's what I've been trying to tell ya. If you prevent most problems from coming up, you don't have to deal with expensive medical bills later. Its called being *smart* and well-managed. Not something that is particularly prized these days in the health care system in this country.

i'm not buying that. any increase in domestic production would help.

as for health care, let's just make it real simple and tell everyone not to get sick.

Its like giving low dose aspirin for a long term migraine. It just don't work.

Sure- any increase in domestic production would help... if there WAS enough to counteract the foreign supply availability. Hence, it don't work.

Perhaps if we didn't send soldiers on unnecessary wars... they wouldn't return sick.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

Or you could just do the system right by actually funding (*novel though*) the needed care instead of wasting it away for insurance companies and ridiculous overhead.

it's funny that you speak of that while talking about a government program.

Yes there is quite a bit of irony involved isn't it?

Then again, leadership could mandate efficiency. Heck if PHS can do it with bad management, so could a well-managed NHS.

i'm not going to hold my breath on that one. i can't think of a single government project that came in under budget.

That tends to happen when the defense budget is pushed towards blank-check status.

But yes... if we don't try it then there's really nothing to hold our collective breath over.

kinda like drilling for more oil?

Sure... when you know you have enough oil to make a significant difference. Hate to make you breathe there buddy... but there ain't enough. Not now, not in 10 years.

Not for our demand.

Now healthcare... well that's what I've been trying to tell ya. If you prevent most problems from coming up, you don't have to deal with expensive medical bills later. Its called being *smart* and well-managed. Not something that is particularly prized these days in the health care system in this country.

i'm not buying that. any increase in domestic production would help.

as for health care, let's just make it real simple and tell everyone not to get sick.

Its like giving low dose aspirin for a long term migraine. It just don't work.

Sure- any increase in domestic production would help... if there WAS enough to counteract the foreign supply availability. Hence, it don't work.

Perhaps if we didn't send soldiers on unnecessary wars... they wouldn't return sick.

and if we had legal abortions we'd not have criminals and crowding, right?

[HAL 9000 96]

Or you could just do the system right by actually funding (*novel though*) the needed care instead of wasting it away for insurance companies and ridiculous overhead.

it's funny that you speak of that while talking about a government program.

Yes there is quite a bit of irony involved isn't it?

Then again, leadership could mandate efficiency. Heck if PHS can do it with bad management, so could a well-managed NHS.

i'm not going to hold my breath on that one. i can't think of a single government project that came in under budget.

That tends to happen when the defense budget is pushed towards blank-check status.

But yes... if we don't try it then there's really nothing to hold our collective breath over.

kinda like drilling for more oil?

Sure... when you know you have enough oil to make a significant difference. Hate to make you breathe there buddy... but there ain't enough. Not now, not in 10 years.

Not for our demand.

Now healthcare... well that's what I've been trying to tell ya. If you prevent most problems from coming up, you don't have to deal with expensive medical bills later. Its called being *smart* and well-managed. Not something that is particularly prized these days in the health care system in this country.

i'm not buying that. any increase in domestic production would help.

as for health care, let's just make it real simple and tell everyone not to get sick.

Its like giving low dose aspirin for a long term migraine. It just don't work.

Sure- any increase in domestic production would help... if there WAS enough to counteract the foreign supply availability. Hence, it don't work.

Perhaps if we didn't send soldiers on unnecessary wars... they wouldn't return sick.

and if we had legal abortions we'd not have criminals and crowding, right?

1 does not = 2

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

it's funny that you speak of that while talking about a government program.

Yes there is quite a bit of irony involved isn't it?

Then again, leadership could mandate efficiency. Heck if PHS can do it with bad management, so could a well-managed NHS.

i'm not going to hold my breath on that one. i can't think of a single government project that came in under budget.

That tends to happen when the defense budget is pushed towards blank-check status.

But yes... if we don't try it then there's really nothing to hold our collective breath over.

kinda like drilling for more oil?

Sure... when you know you have enough oil to make a significant difference. Hate to make you breathe there buddy... but there ain't enough. Not now, not in 10 years.

Not for our demand.

Now healthcare... well that's what I've been trying to tell ya. If you prevent most problems from coming up, you don't have to deal with expensive medical bills later. Its called being *smart* and well-managed. Not something that is particularly prized these days in the health care system in this country.

i'm not buying that. any increase in domestic production would help.

as for health care, let's just make it real simple and tell everyone not to get sick.

Its like giving low dose aspirin for a long term migraine. It just don't work.

Sure- any increase in domestic production would help... if there WAS enough to counteract the foreign supply availability. Hence, it don't work.

Perhaps if we didn't send soldiers on unnecessary wars... they wouldn't return sick.

and if we had legal abortions we'd not have criminals and crowding, right?

1 does not = 2

and ergo, if we sent soldiers on necessary wars they'd not return sick?

[SteveLaura 0]

Now healthcare... well that's what I've been trying to tell ya. If you prevent most problems from coming up, you don't have to deal with expensive medical bills later. Its called being *smart* and well-managed. Not something that is particularly prized these days in the health care system in this country.

Taking The Measure Of Health Care In America