The mic was on, but they didn't know! Private conversation among members of the media on Palin.

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Kay Bailey Hutchinson - who would have been a terrific choice for many reasons - was not picked because she is pro-choice. It's that simple. She also claims she didn't want it.

How sad is that? I get it, from a Rep perspective they needed someone on the ticket to represent these core, traditional Rep beliefs in order to 'fire up' their religious base, but...

...anyway, it is what it is and the race will go on.

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Kay Bailey Hutchinson - who would have been a terrific choice for many reasons - was not picked because she is pro-choice. It's that simple. She also claims she didn't want it.

How sad is that? I get it, from a Rep perspective they needed someone on the ticket to represent these core, traditional Rep beliefs in order to 'fire up' their religious base, but...

...anyway, it is what it is and the race will go on.

The issue is good for fundraising - and the Christian Conservatives who were lukewarm about McCain were in danger of staying at home. Not sure if that will be the case any more.

If Roe v Wade was ever overturned they would lose the best political weapon they've got

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Kay Bailey Hutchinson - who would have been a terrific choice for many reasons - was not picked because she is pro-choice. It's that simple. She also claims she didn't want it.

If he was really trying to garner Hillary voters, then Hutchinson would have been the wiser choice. To me, it looks like he was hoping to appeal to both social conservatives and women voters, and while there are socially conservative women, I'd venture to say that the majority of women in this country want to keep abortion legal, and particularly the ones who supported Hillary are pro-choice.

Edited September 3, 2008 by Jabberwocky

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Kay Bailey Hutchinson - who would have been a terrific choice for many reasons - was not picked because she is pro-choice. It's that simple. She also claims she didn't want it.

If he was really trying to garner Hillary voters, then Hutchinson would have been the wiser choice. To me, it looks like he was hoping to appeal to both social conservatives and women voters, and while there are socially conservative women, I'd venture to say that the majority of women in this country want to keep abortion legal, and particularly the ones who supported Hillary are pro-choice.

Many of the older female working class Democrats are more ambivalent about abortion - especially the working class and Hispanic Catholics. Sarah Palin's abortion stance is less of an issue for them.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Kay Bailey Hutchinson - who would have been a terrific choice for many reasons - was not picked because she is pro-choice. It's that simple. She also claims she didn't want it.

If he was really trying to garner Hillary voters, then Hutchinson would have been the wiser choice. To me, it looks like he was hoping to appeal to both social conservatives and women voters, and while there are socially conservative women, I'd venture to say that the majority of women in this country want to keep abortion legal, and particularly the ones who supported Hillary are pro-choice.

Many of the older female working class Democrats are more ambivalent about abortion - especially the working class and Hispanic Catholics. Sarah Palin's abortion stance is less of an issue for them.

Heh...I just had to look up what the demographics were...you're right.

(this was dated - May 20, 2008)

Barack Obama overtaking Clinton in all demographics except 50+ women

http://socialcapital.wordpress.com/2008/05...xcept-50-women/

...more....

Clinton is drawing especially strong support from lower-income, lesser-educated women -- voters her campaign strategists describe as "women with needs." Obama, by contrast, is faring better among highly educated women, who his campaign says are interested in elevating the political discourse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7061102216.html

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Noonan explains:

Well, I just got mugged by the nature of modern media, and I wish it weren't my fault, but it is. Readers deserve an explanation, so I'm putting a new top on today's column and, with the forbearance of the Journal, here it is.

Wednesday afternoon, in a live MSNBC television panel hosted by NBC's political analyst Chuck Todd, and along with Republican strategist Mike Murphy, we discussed Sarah Palin's speech this evening to the Republican National Convention. I said she has to tell us in her speech who she is, what she believes, and why she's here. We spoke of Republican charges that the media has been unfair to Mrs. Palin, and I defended the view that while the media should investigate every quote and vote she's made, and look deeply into her career, it has been unjust in its treatment of her family circumstances, and deserved criticism for this.

When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion -- and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don't know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, "It's over!" -- and I said it more than once -- that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over."

However, I did say two things that I haven't said in public, either in speaking or in my writing. One is a vulgar epithet that I wish I could blame on the mood of the moment but cannot. No one else, to my memory, swore. I just blurted. The other, more seriously, is a real criticism that I had not previously made, but only because I hadn't thought of it. And it is connected to a thought I had this morning, Wednesday morning, and wrote to a friend. Here it is. Early this morning I saw Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and as we chatted about the McCain campaign (she thoughtfully and supportively) I looked into her eyes and thought, Why not her? Had she been vetted for the vice presidency, and how did it come about that it was the less experienced Mrs. Palin who was chosen? I didn't ask these questions or mention them, I just thought them. Later in the morning, still pondering this, I thought of something that had happened exactly 20 years before. It was just after the 1988 Republican convention ended. I was on the plane, as a speechwriter, that took Republican presidential nominee George H.W. Bush, and the new vice presidential nominee, Dan Quayle, from New Orleans, the site of the convention, to Indiana. Sitting next to Mr. Quayle was the other senator from that state, Richard Lugar. As we chatted, I thought, "Why him and not him?" Why Mr. Quayle as the choice, and not the more experienced Mr. Lugar? I came to think, in following years, that some of the reason came down to what is now called The Narrative. The story the campaign wishes to tell about itself, and communicate to others. I don't like the idea of The Narrative. I think it is ... a barnyard epithet. And, oddly enough, it is something that Republicans are not very good at, because it's not where they live, it's not what they're about, it's too fancy. To the extent the McCain campaign was thinking in these terms, I don't like that either. I do like Mrs. Palin, because I like the things she espouses. And because, frankly, I met her once and liked her. I suspect, as I say further in here, that her candidacy will be either dramatically successful or a dramatically not; it won't be something in between.

But, bottom line, I am certainly sorry I blurted my barnyard ephithet, I am certainly sorry that someone abused my meaning in the use of the words, "It's over", and I'm sorry I didn't have the Kay Baily Hutchison thought before this morning, because I could have written of it. There. Now: onto today's column.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/declarations.html

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Aaaaawwww, how very sweet.... "Mom, I fukced up, but I really didn't mean tooooooo "

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Seems pretty reasonable to me.

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I was trying to figure out what she meant by "my barnyard ephithet" ...she's talking about saying bullsh!t? Why should she have to apologize for that?

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I was trying to figure out what she meant by "my barnyard ephithet" ...she's talking about saying bullsh!t? Why should she have to apologize for that?

Conservatives frown on that kind of language.

Or, at the very least, they pretend to.

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they are media whores ..and afraid of backlash

I think this is part of it, for sure.