Anybody watching the RNC?

[almaty 19]

counter point...

(CNN) -- Democrats accused Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin of mirroring "divisive" attacks by President Bush Wednesday night and said showed she wasn't qualified to be on the ticket.

Barack Obama's campaign said Sarah Palin's speech sounded just like George W. Bush.

"The speech that [Alaska] Gov. Palin made was well delivered, but it was written by George Bush's speechwriter and sounds exactly like the same divisive, partisan attacks we've heard from George Bush for the last eight years," said Bill Burton, the campaign spokesman for Sen. Barack Obama.

"If Gov. Palin and John McCain want to define 'change' as voting with George Bush 90 percent of the time, that's their choice, but we don't think the American people are ready to take a 10 percent chance on change." Watch Palin attack Obama's record »

In her speech, Palin drew large applause for attacking Obama for writing two memoirs, but no major laws or reforms.

Robert Gibbs, an Obama campaign senior adviser, said that like Joe Lieberman's speech last night, Palin was wrong.

"I hope if she continues that argument that she'll get her facts straight," Gibbs said.

Gibbs said Obama had worked on strong ethics reform in the state and U.S. legislatures.

In her speech, Palin highlighted her ethics reforms in Alaska as proof she was qualified for the job. iReport.com: I touched Obama's "styrofoam" columns

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"While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for," Palin said. "That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay."

Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who served as national co-Chair for Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign, said those words showed Palin's lack of qualifications. Watch Democrats weigh in on Palin's speech »

"I thought [her speech] was a tirade of attacks and it was really surprising that the case that Gov. Palin made for her candidacy for vice president is her experience in negotiating the sale of her state's plane on eBay," she said. If, God forbid, anything happens to John McCain, then we are in for a scary proposition."

Kiki McLean, who served as senior adviser to Clinton's campaign, called most of the jabs "great political theater."

McClean, Gibbs and Wasserman Schultz all said that for the second night in a row, the slams against the Democrats were merely a distraction from the fact that nobody has offered detailed plans on the issues Americans care most about.

"For the second night in a row we have yet to see what John McCain will do to get this economy on track, create more jobs," Gibbs said. "That's what Americans want to hear."

Palin also took a swing at Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of the "current do-nothing Senate" for comments he made about McCain.

"[Reid] said, 'I can't stand John McCain,' " Palin said. "Ladies and gentlemen, perhaps no accolade we hear this week is better proof that we've chosen the right man. Clearly what the majority leader was driving at is that he can't stand up to John McCain."

Reid's spokesman Jim Manley fired back, calling Palin's remarks "shrill and sarcastic political attacks."

"Anyone who knows Sen. Reid knows he never backs down when he's fighting for what's right and that he always stands up to John McCain when he is wrong," Manley said. "Shrill and sarcastic political attacks may fire up the Republican base, but they don't change the fact that a McCain-Palin administration would mean four more years of failed Bush-Cheney policies."

The Republican vice presidential pick continued to take swings at Obama and his campaign after they raised allegations that she is unfit and inexperienced for the job of vice president. In the past week, she has also faced tough criticism after revealing news that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is pregnant. iReport.com: Mother of 5 fit to be VP?

Both Obama and Republican candidate McCain criticized the attacks, saying family members were off limits. But that didn't stop former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney from taking a perceived jab at Michelle Obama, who once said her husband's White House run made her "really proud" of her country for the first time.

"Just like you, there has never been a day when I was not proud to be an American," Romney said.

Obama's campaign fired back at Romney's remarks before his speech Wednesday night, calling them, "as pathetic as [Romney's] failed presidential campaign."

"Barack Obama has said that families are 'off-limits', and we thought that John McCain agreed," Obama adviser Anita Dunn said. "But tonight, John McCain's handpicked attack dog, Mitt Romney, exposed the fake outrage that the Republicans have been peddling all week as the blatant hypocrisy that it is."

"The McCain team's disgusting attack on Barack Obama's wife shows they would rather generate false outrage to distract from their own problems than talk about the issues facing the American people," Dunn said. "Mitt Romney's attack on a candidate's wife is as pathetic as his failed presidential campaign

[William33 110]

Wow!!! Palin rocked the house!! Now THAT was a speech!!

lol..i could have gotten up there..read some 8th grade poetry i wrote years ago..and rocked the house..i assume the convention is made up of diehard gop fanatics

Dean for VP!!

[almaty 19]

Wow!!! Palin rocked the house!! Now THAT was a speech!!

lol..i could have gotten up there..read some 8th grade poetry i wrote years ago..and rocked the house..i assume the convention is made up of diehard gop fanatics

Dean for VP!!

lol..thanks brother william..i think v-p runners: palin or biden are enough .......

[HAL 9000 96]

Drill baby drill? I only caught part of Giuliani's speech. Did someone yell that from the crowd (I use crowd in the loosest sense of the term)?

Drilling is the best way to lower the price of oil. A majority of Americans understand that basic fact. What is Obama's plan? Tune up your car and inflate your tires.

And how will that actually lower the price? I'm curious.

Given that its no secret there's not enough and not fast enough amounts to process to make a significant impact any time in the near future. Unless of course, you deny that little tidbit of REALITY.

[HAL 9000 96]

Drill baby drill? I only caught part of Giuliani's speech. Did someone yell that from the crowd (I use crowd in the loosest sense of the term)?

Drilling is the best way to lower the price of oil. A majority of Americans understand that basic fact. What is Obama's plan? Tune up your car and inflate your tires.

Obviously a plant. They're looking for a catch phrase. Chanting "U.S.A., U.S.A." is getting a bit stale.

As opposed to Obama, Obama, Obama?

zing!

We'll have the last laugh in November. McCain really screwed up with this pick.

But the dems screwed up more with their pick of Obama. Get used to hearing President McCain. You will hear it for the next 4 years.

Yeah we've heard that kind of deflated logic from you in the past.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Brother almaty would have just rocked the house without even having to speak!

[HAL 9000 96]

War is hell, and people die. Get real. Democrat Clinton dropped more than a few bombs, literally and figuratively. That's convenient to forget.

You want people to die for disagreeing with you. Big of you.

At least he didn't do it with our Servicemen strapped to the bombs on their way down.

[GaryC 7]

Drill baby drill? I only caught part of Giuliani's speech. Did someone yell that from the crowd (I use crowd in the loosest sense of the term)?

Drilling is the best way to lower the price of oil. A majority of Americans understand that basic fact. What is Obama's plan? Tune up your car and inflate your tires.

And how will that actually lower the price? I'm curious.

Given that its no secret there's not enough and not fast enough amounts to process to make a significant impact any time in the near future. Unless of course, you deny that little tidbit of REALITY.

I would say your the one taking a leave from reality. Supply and demand is a pretty well established concept. Tell you what, if drilling our own oil will not change the price then why is it when a hurricane takes out our gulf rigs why does the price go up?

There is a little secret your overlooking. We have more oil in North America than the middle east has. All we need to do is get it.

No matter though, the country has woken up to the fact that your side wants higher prices. That is why your against drilling. Your fighting a loosing battle.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

Brother almaty would have just rocked the house without even having to speak!

i've been known to do that too.

[almaty 19]

charles..next election is it platy for president and charles for v-p..i will do all the dirty tricks for you..

[chri'stina 190]

Drill baby drill? I only caught part of Giuliani's speech. Did someone yell that from the crowd (I use crowd in the loosest sense of the term)?

Drilling is the best way to lower the price of oil. A majority of Americans understand that basic fact. What is Obama's plan? Tune up your car and inflate your tires.

And how will that actually lower the price? I'm curious.

Given that its no secret there's not enough and not fast enough amounts to process to make a significant impact any time in the near future. Unless of course, you deny that little tidbit of REALITY.

I would say your the one taking a leave from reality. Supply and demand is a pretty well established concept. Tell you what, if drilling our own oil will not change the price then why is it when a hurricane takes out our gulf rigs why does the price go up?

There is a little secret your overlooking. We have more oil in North America than the middle east has. All we need to do is get it.

No matter though, the country has woken up to the fact that your side wants higher prices. That is why your against drilling. Your fighting a loosing battle.

I agree that the supply and demand issue along with the stupid speculation that goes on would be positively affected by drilling offshore. The argument is that it won't be available anytime soon and that it won't help right now. But it WILL help eventually. And I believe it would immediately help with prices if people knew that we were going to be drilling our own oil and that it would be available eventually. Right now much speculation(which causes prices to rise) and hikes in price occur due to the world's increase in gas usage along with tension in countries that supply our gas. Knowing we are on the way to drilling more at home will immediately reduce some of the tension. If people don't want to admit that, what can you do. It is not being offered as the only solution, just part of the bigger picture to get energy independent.

Edited September 4, 2008 by Parivar CSK

[GaryC 7]

Drill baby drill? I only caught part of Giuliani's speech. Did someone yell that from the crowd (I use crowd in the loosest sense of the term)?

Drilling is the best way to lower the price of oil. A majority of Americans understand that basic fact. What is Obama's plan? Tune up your car and inflate your tires.

And how will that actually lower the price? I'm curious.

Given that its no secret there's not enough and not fast enough amounts to process to make a significant impact any time in the near future. Unless of course, you deny that little tidbit of REALITY.

I would say your the one taking a leave from reality. Supply and demand is a pretty well established concept. Tell you what, if drilling our own oil will not change the price then why is it when a hurricane takes out our gulf rigs why does the price go up?

There is a little secret your overlooking. We have more oil in North America than the middle east has. All we need to do is get it.

No matter though, the country has woken up to the fact that your side wants higher prices. That is why your against drilling. Your fighting a loosing battle.

I agree that the supply and demand issue along with the stupid speculation that goes on would be positively affected by drilling offshore. The argument is that it won't be available anytime soon and that it won't help right now. But it WILL help eventually. And I believe it would immediately help with prices if people knew that we were going to be drilling our own oil and that it would be available eventually. Right now much speculation(which causes prices to rise) and hikes in price occur due to the world's increase in gas usage along with tension in countries that supply our gas. Knowing we are on the way to drilling more at home will immediately reduce some of the tension. If people don't want to admit that, what can you do. It is not being offered as the only solution, just part of the bigger picture to get energy independent.

Yep, even T Boon Pickens says Drill, Drill, Drill. I thought he was the new hero for energy.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

While it might appear quite logically correct to suggest that drilling will lower prices (and I think this is perhaps where John McCain's politics are easier to sell to the public than Obamas) - the reality isn't quite so cut and dried. Supply and demand does indeed impact prices - but a lot hinges on oil-traders and speculators who assess risk based on the current world situation. I used to work for BP back in London and on the trading floor there it was interesting to see what impact say a terrorist bombing in Azerbaijan would have on prices. So it has to do with Geopolitics as well.

Specifically some of the impacts we've felt in recent years have to do with instability in the ME. The war in Iraq didn't exactly help matters if you consider that that production there was all but shut down during the war (which of course feeds into supply and demand) and the oil companies are only just now returning.

Edited September 4, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[chri'stina 190]

While it might appear quite logically correct to suggest that drilling will lower prices (and I think this is perhaps where John McCain's politics are easier to sell to the public than Obamas) - the reality isn't quite so cut and dried. Supply and demand does indeed impact prices - but a lot hinges on oil-traders and speculators who assess risk based on the current world situation. I used to work for BP back in London and on the trading floor there it was interesting to see what impact say a terrorist bombing in Azerbaijan would have on prices. So it has to do with Geopolitics as well.

Specifically some of the impacts we've felt in recent years have to do with instability in the ME. The war in Iraq didn't exactly help matters if you consider that that production there was all but shut down during the war (which of course feeds into supply and demand) and the oil companies are only just now returning.

I am not understanding how what you wrote proves the prices won't go down...if that's what you were trying to say? We wouldn't be dealing with the oil traders as much if we had more of our own oil...which would mean less tension for us and less caring about how tension in the ME will affect our oil prices. How would this not help prices?

Edited September 4, 2008 by Parivar CSK

[IAMX 3,055]

I would say your the one taking a leave from reality. Supply and demand is a pretty well established concept. Tell you what, if drilling our own oil will not change the price then why is it when a hurricane takes out our gulf rigs why does the price go up?

There is a little secret your overlooking. We have more oil in North America than the middle east has. All we need to do is get it.

Uh no, Gary, the secret is FEARS can rise prices, NOT supply and demand. Even before a hurricane strikes prices will rise. Some bombing overseas can happen and fears from that will raise prices. If there's one thing that the oil industry has exceeded well beyond it's the economic principles of supply and demand.

No matter though, the country has woken up to the fact that your side wants higher prices. That is why your against drilling. Your fighting a loosing battle.

There is already enough drilling in this country. Some of us are realistic in that MORE drilling is no solution whatsoever to a major oil problem that this country cannot produce enough of to make any significant impact on prices. In the short term, there is ZERO cents saved. In the long term, it's debatable. $0.06/gallon? $1.50/gallon? By the time you would see this investment, you would be well into your retired age. So no, this is no solution both short and long term.

The only problem with that is one political party, and yes, even some of another, have their head crammed up the oil industry's ### and are mouthpieces for them. Economic experts know that this is folly, which is why demand for alternative fuel sources have skyrocketed, and will continue doing so for the foreseeable future.