Sarah Palin vs. Barack Obama

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and coming from the side that pioneered Willy Horton, Swiftboating and "Obama is a Muslim" email, we're supposed to give McCain some slack for picking such a collosally unqualified running mate?

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What gets me is how she's subjecting her daughter's juvenile pregnancy to national attention and exposure. That says to me she's more interested in herself than her family. Also raises all sorts of questions about how a Christian, conservative, anti-abortion, anti-sex education woman runs her own house. Abstinence sex education? This is what it looks like:

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that's not the daughter's picture, is it?

i don't think the pregnancy is a big deal... it is certainly a private, family matter, and the young woman is going to need a lot of support...

for that matter, i also didn't think Rev. Wright was a big deal, nor Obama in Somali garb... none of it means anything, just media propaganda.

i assumed Palin announced her daughter's pregnancy because it was going to get out there anyway... better to announce it herself than let the media sharks get a hold of it. It is a shame thought, that the young woman's face and business is all over the place now...

And to think, i used to get embarrassed when i had a pimple in high school, or when my dad drove me to school in a beat-up car and checkered 70s pants! So glad i'm not a teenager anymore..........

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What gets me is how she's subjecting her daughter's juvenile pregnancy to national attention and exposure. That says to me she's more interested in herself than her family. Also raises all sorts of questions about how a Christian, conservative, anti-abortion, anti-sex education woman runs her own house. Abstinence sex education? This is what it looks like:

To be fair, she was forced to disclose it after the ugly smears from the Daily Kos that her daughter was actually the mother of her fifth son.

From Jezebel (which is not exactly a right wing blog):

For the record, schools in Alaska do teach comprehensive sex-ed, and the Alaska Department of Education & Early Development offers schools a choice of curricula that include programs focusing on abstinence without endorsing a specific program. In fact, there have even been debates in Alaska since the start of Palin's tenure whether exempting children from comprehensive sex ed is constitutional. Palin's statements on abstinence-only education date to one questionnaire from a right-wing group during her campaign in 2006 when asked the following question:

Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?

In answer to that leading question which conflates comprehensive sexual education with condom and Pill distribution, her campaign answered:

Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.

In the last year and a half, searches of her office's website and the Guttmacher Institute revealed no abstinence-only initiatives by her administration. Simply put, Sarah Palin is by no means the world's biggest promoter of abstinence-only education, as some people are claiming.

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What gets me is how she's subjecting her daughter's juvenile pregnancy to national attention and exposure. That says to me she's more interested in herself than her family. Also raises all sorts of questions about how a Christian, conservative, anti-abortion, anti-sex education woman runs her own house. Abstinence sex education? This is what it looks like:

She was compelled to disclose her 17 year old daughter's pregnancy because the leftist bloggers were

spreading rumors that her son with Down Syndrome is really her daughter's child.

Here is the video

At sites like this one It’s My Right to Be Left of Center

and this http://www.memeorandum.com/080901/p60#a080901p60

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leftist bloggers...

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leftist bloggers...

Correction:

Obamabots. They include not just left bloggers but also rightwing but ardent proObama supporter like Andrew Sullivan . He was denied US citizenship because he is HIV positive.

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stay tuned for more swift boating of palin. obamabots engage!

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Article neglects Foreign Policy experience:

• Palin is incumbent governor of a US State which borders on two Canadian subentities (British Columbia Province, Yukon Territory) by land and has maritime border with Russia (Big Diomed Island of Russia is 4 km from Little Diomed Island of Alaska)--inevitably dealing with these involves a minor matter of Foreign Policy
• Obama, prior to Senate campaign had ZERO FP experience (having lived as a child in Kenya and Indonesia DOESN't qualify)

Doesn't that make the initial response to the Palin choice a little surprising?

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

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Article neglects Foreign Policy experience:

• Palin is incumbent governor of a US State which borders on two Canadian subentities (British Columbia Province, Yukon Territory) by land and has maritime border with Russia (Big Diomed Island of Russia is 4 km from Little Diomed Island of Alaska)--inevitably dealing with these involves a minor matter of Foreign Policy
• Obama, prior to Senate campaign had ZERO FP experience (having lived as a child in Kenya and Indonesia DOESN't qualify)

Doesn't that make the initial response to the Palin choice a little surprising?

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

I think the latter is being more honest, whereas the former is being more PC. I prefer the latter, as it's certainly just as truthful.

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Article neglects Foreign Policy experience:

• Palin is incumbent governor of a US State which borders on two Canadian subentities (British Columbia Province, Yukon Territory) by land and has maritime border with Russia (Big Diomed Island of Russia is 4 km from Little Diomed Island of Alaska)--inevitably dealing with these involves a minor matter of Foreign Policy
• Obama, prior to Senate campaign had ZERO FP experience (having lived as a child in Kenya and Indonesia DOESN't qualify)

Doesn't that make the initial response to the Palin choice a little surprising?

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

Sen. Obama AND Sen. Biden are both on the Foreign Relations Committee at the Senate.

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Article neglects Foreign Policy experience:

• Palin is incumbent governor of a US State which borders on two Canadian subentities (British Columbia Province, Yukon Territory) by land and has maritime border with Russia (Big Diomed Island of Russia is 4 km from Little Diomed Island of Alaska)--inevitably dealing with these involves a minor matter of Foreign Policy
• Obama, prior to Senate campaign had ZERO FP experience (having lived as a child in Kenya and Indonesia DOESN't qualify)

Doesn't that make the initial response to the Palin choice a little surprising?

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

Sen. Obama AND Sen. Biden are both on the Foreign Relations Committee at the Senate.

So what? She has decades more experience being in Alaska than any of them do. It's closer to Russia, and on occasion they have 20+ hours of sunlight.

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Article neglects Foreign Policy experience:

• Palin is incumbent governor of a US State which borders on two Canadian subentities (British Columbia Province, Yukon Territory) by land and has maritime border with Russia (Big Diomed Island of Russia is 4 km from Little Diomed Island of Alaska)--inevitably dealing with these involves a minor matter of Foreign Policy
• Obama, prior to Senate campaign had ZERO FP experience (having lived as a child in Kenya and Indonesia DOESN't qualify)

Doesn't that make the initial response to the Palin choice a little surprising?

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

Sen. Obama AND Sen. Biden are both on the Foreign Relations Committee at the Senate.

So what? She has decades more experience being in Alaska than any of them do. It's closer to Russia, and on occasion they have 20+ hours of sunlight.

Dude that has me sold. I am going to vote for McCain now!

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Historians Lee Edwards and Allan J. Lichtman digest the presidential candidates' VP selections.

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A shrewd gamble that could make history Point: Lee Edwards

In selecting Sen. Joe Biden, an old pro with an advanced degree in gravitas, Barack Obama imitated George W. Bush, who picked former Defense Secretary ####### Cheney in 2000 to balance his inexperience in foreign policy and national security. In choosing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain brings to mind Democrat Walter Mondale, who in 1984 named Rep. Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate, making her the first woman placed on the national ticket of a major party. In her first public appearance, Palin accentuated the gender significance of her selection with generous references to Ferraro and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

As you know, Allan, the cardinal rule in the selection of a running mate is, "Do no harm." That is, don't pick someone who is going to upset the base of your party. Republicans and Democrats went that path in 2000 with the nomination of Cheney and Sen. Joe Lieberman. In that regard, both Biden and Palin are acceptable to hard-core Democrats and Republicans, respectively.

But there is another rule of vice presidential selection that demands consideration when the country is closely divided politically: Choose someone who is capable of delivering electorally. In 1960, John F. Kennedy picked Lyndon B. Johnson as his vice presidential choice because he knew the general election would be close and he needed Johnson to help him carry the South.

Bobby Kennedy, JFK's campaign manager and brother, despised LBJ and opposed having him join the ticket. Jack Kennedy overrode his brother's objections and picked a highly respected Southerner who did what he was supposed to do -- carry Texas and the election for Kennedy.

I think that the current state of political affairs in America is similar. The country is divided almost equally red and blue, and so far, all the polls point to a tight contest.

Displaying lawyerly caution, Obama selected a running mate with impressive policy credentials but who carries little electoral weight. Biden has Catholic blue-collar roots but is best known as a Washington insider. Allan, just how much of a difference can he make with the voters of key states such as Pennsylvania and Ohio?

In contrast, the high-flying, risk-taking McCain picked a running mate little known nationally but with a world of personal experience as a wife, hockey mom, union member, mayor and governor of a state whose optimistic motto is "North to the Future."

It is irrelevant whether she delivers Alaska's three electoral votes. Palin will be busy seven days a week from now to election day, wooing the 18 million people who voted for Clinton -- and their mothers, sisters, grandmothers and aunts.

So, Allan, don't you agree that while Biden and his impressive resume fit in with the recent history of presidential campaigns, Palin represents something else -- a shrewd gamble she can make history for herself and the Republican ticket?

Lee Edwards is the Distinguished Fellow in Conservative Thought at the Heritage Foundation and the author of nearly 20 books, including a forthcoming biography of William F. Buckley Jr.

McCain's bad judgment on display Counterpoint: Allan J. Lichtman

You are right about one thing, Lee. In bypassing Hillary Clinton, Obama opened the door for McCain to shake up a losing race by choosing a woman as his running mate. But McCain chose the wrong woman. The slogan for McCain's campaign is "Country First." Yet as even your post implies, Lee, in choosing Palin, McCain followed the watchword "Politics First."

Not once in introducing Palin to the American people did McCain utter the magic words, "She is fully qualified to serve as president." Neither do you, Lee, in your post. Biden may not be the most dynamic campaigner, but there is little doubt that he is qualified for the presidency.

In choosing Palin -- after a one-day vetting process, according to the New York Times -- rather than a qualified woman such as Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas or Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, McCain has called into question his judgment and decision-making. Palin's deficiencies, one analyst wrote, are "not just [in] foreign policy. Palin has no experience dealing with national domestic issues either." These are not the words of a liberal scourge, but of Ramesh Ponnuru, a senior editor at the conservative National Review magazine.

The American people have registered their doubts about Palin. According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 39% of respondents believe that she is ready to serve as president; 33% say she was not. An earlier poll on Biden found that 57% believe he is ready to serve as president, and only 18% say he isn't. Women are even more skeptical of Palin than men, refuting the false and insulting assumption that women would back her candidacy regardless of her beliefs and qualifications.

The flawed judgment of McCain is also evident in revelations about Palin. McCain hyped Palin as a fellow maverick who joined him in opposing the "bridge to nowhere" pork-barrel project in Alaska. However, we now know that Palin backed the bridge as a candidate for governor. "We need to come to the defense of Southeast Alaska when proposals are on the table like the bridge, and not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project or any other into something that's so negative," she said in 2006, according to the Ketchikan Daily News. As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she hired a lobbyist who helped the metropolis of about 9,000 people land millions of dollars in federal pork.

Palin is also under investigation for allegedly using the power of the governor's office to settle a private grievance against her former brother-in-law. She once dabbled in secessionist politics in Alaska.

The McCain campaign also touted Palin as an exemplar of traditional family values and the importance of abstinence-only education. Only later did we learn that her 17-year old daughter is five months pregnant -- a private matter made publicly relevant by the way the McCain camp sold Palin to the American people.

You're right, Lee: Palin may be more flashy than Biden. But I am confident that the American people will choose qualified over flashy every time.

Allan J. Lichtman is a history professor at American University in Washington. His most recent books are "The Keys to the White House" and "White Protestant Nation: The Rise of the American Conservative Movement."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commen...0,3128621.story

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Article neglects Foreign Policy experience:

• Palin is incumbent governor of a US State which borders on two Canadian subentities (British Columbia Province, Yukon Territory) by land and has maritime border with Russia (Big Diomed Island of Russia is 4 km from Little Diomed Island of Alaska)--inevitably dealing with these involves a minor matter of Foreign Policy
• Obama, prior to Senate campaign had ZERO FP experience (having lived as a child in Kenya and Indonesia DOESN't qualify)

Doesn't that make the initial response to the Palin choice a little surprising?

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies -- that's not the change we need, it's just more of the same."

Sen. Obama AND Sen. Biden are both on the Foreign Relations Committee at the Senate.

So what? She has decades more experience being in Alaska than any of them do. It's closer to Russia, and on occasion they have 20+ hours of sunlight.

Dude that has me sold. I am going to vote for McCain now!

I think I just puked a little.