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This morning I listed a few 'ethical' reasons that CO's use to justify their unlawful visa denials to the Congressional offices. Now, I wish to give you the real reasons behind their apparently 'ethical' reasons. They can be generalized into 3 catagories:

1. Women in, men out - This is harder for a female petitioner to bring in a male beneficiary than it is for a male petitioner to bring in a female beneficiary, especially when CO is a male.

2. Racial reasons:

a. To strive to maintain white majority demographics in the US,

b. Avoid mixing white girls,

c. Give hard time to minority petitioners and minority couples.

3. Feminist reasons - A male petitioner married 2 or more times, or significantly older than beneficiary, or failed to disclose prior marriages, etc., especially when CO is a female.

Of course, CO's cannot state these reasons for visa denial, so what they do is, they falsify 'no proof of relationship' on papers. Proof of relationship had become such an abused basis for visa denials that in 2004, the DOS came up with the following regulations to try and put a stop to the abuse - guess they never figured out what was really going on.

The approval of a petition under INA 204 is considered to establish prima facie entitlement to status. The validitity of relationship between petitioner and the alien beneficiary is presumed to exist. Unless the consul has specific, substantial evidence, the consular officer would have no reason to return petition to DHS. 9 FAM § 42.41 N1 - Establishing Relationship between Petitioner & Alien Beneficiary.

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This morning I listed a few 'ethical' reasons that CO's use to justify their unlawful visa denials to the Congressional offices. Now, I wish to give you the real reasons behind their apparently 'ethical' reasons. They can be generalized into 3 catagories:

1. Women in, men out - This is harder for a female petitioner to bring in a male beneficiary than it is for a male petitioner to bring in a female beneficiary, especially when CO is a male.

2. Racial reasons:

a. To strive to maintain white majority demographics in the US,

b. Avoid mixing white girls,

c. Give hard time to minority petitioners and minority couples.

3. Feminist reasons - A male petitioner married 2 or more times, or significantly older than beneficiary, or failed to disclose prior marriages, etc., especially when CO is a female.

Of course, CO's cannot state these reasons for visa denial, so what they do is, they falsify 'no proof of relationship' on papers. Proof of relationship had become such an abused basis for visa denials that in 2004, the DOS came up with the following regulations to try and put a stop to the abuse - guess they never figured out what was really going on.

The approval of a petition under INA 204 is considered to establish prima facie entitlement to status. The validitity of relationship between petitioner and the alien beneficiary is presumed to exist. Unless the consul has specific, substantial evidence, the consular officer would have no reason to return petition to DHS. 9 FAM § 42.41 N1 - Establishing Relationship between Petitioner & Alien Beneficiary.

Please fill in your timeline.

This one that I highlighted is a really good reason why a petition is denied. It's called lying. Yes...that will cause for a petition to be denied.

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Hum I agree with the please dont feed the trolls, that was good very good. And if you notice the person who started this thread joined on 9-1-2008 and made this post about a half hour later. Just someone trying to stir things up. Good luck to everone..... Radz and Steve

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I read a secret USCIS memo that confirms everything the OP said. It's absolutely true.

The same memo also indicated that Area 51 is used to house a special kind of illegal alien.

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I read a secret USCIS memo that confirms everything the OP said. It's absolutely true.

The same memo also indicated that Area 51 is used to house a special kind of illegal alien.

Man, you got that memo too?

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I read a secret USCIS memo that confirms everything the OP said. It's absolutely true.

The same memo also indicated that Area 51 is used to house a special kind of illegal alien.

I heard the alien in Area 51 had his visa denied out of racism... the interviewer wanted to maintain a high percentage of whites & the alien would skew the numbers.

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Actually, I have no problem with points 1 and 2.

Do you mean you agree with points 1 & 2 or that you believe them to be true? Point one is just flat out incorrect. The vast majority of sponsors are male & thus the vast majority of those seeking a visa are female. To say this is due to bias has no basis in fast. Point 2 just seems like prejudice on the OP's behalf... again baseless.

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Actually, I have no problem with points 1 and 2.

Do you mean you agree with points 1 & 2 or that you believe them to be true? Point one is just flat out incorrect. The vast majority of sponsors are male & thus the vast majority of those seeking a visa are female. To say this is due to bias has no basis in fast. Point 2 just seems like prejudice on the OP's behalf... again baseless.

i agree that points 1 and 2 are accurately stated, and that the reasons stated are valid.

historically, empires grew when they imported foreign women and killed or enslaved foreign men in their home ground. this occured in asia, the middle east, russian occupied areas, europe, africa, south america, etc. conversely, empires failed when foreign men were taken into society. bringing foreign men into society leads to disorder and rebellion against established law. we see this on the news daily. 90% of the persons on the FBI most wanted list for california are illegal alien (mostly mexican) men. 35% of people in federal prisons nationwide are illegal alien (mostly mexican) men. need i say more?

as a loyal American, i must choose what is right for my country. so bring in the foreign women for the benefit of hybrid vigour, and capitalise on the labour of foreign men in their home countries. :thumbs:

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