Is Sarah Palin a Secessionist?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Why ask such bakvas? In Canada, we've actually had secessionists sitting in Parliament AS Official Opposition, as well as an unofficial secessionist (Mulroney) as PM.

[tammy2688 1]

This story definitely has substance and any American should at least be aware of her affiliation with this organization....and find out just where her loyalty stands with the U.S. of A..

It's laughable to believe Palin is trying yank Alaska out of the union. Loyalty? Is this where you start to question her patriotism? Have you now or have you ever been a member of the Alaska Independence Party?

You're really stretching here. The stuff about Wright was out there for months but was ignored by most the media. By contrast, Palin has been in the race for 3 days for and we are getting all stories how she was Alaska to secede, force creationism in all schools and now the pregnant daughter stuff. I've never seen anyone in a presidential race get trashed so much so quickly. If she wasn't a threat to the Dems would just say nothing now and let her have it later when it's too late to replace her.

Lol don't give us Dem's any good ideas We will take it to heart.

[metta 0]

This story definitely has substance and any American should at least be aware of her affiliation with this organization....and find out just where her loyalty stands with the U.S. of A..

It's laughable to believe Palin is trying yank Alaska out of the union. Loyalty? Is this where you start to question her patriotism? Have you now or have you ever been a member of the Alaska Independence Party?

If she was a Democratic candidate, you would be all over it.

You betcha!

She'd be called a ######, a witch and everything in between.

If that woman has had years of experience in government, she'd be called the representative of same old politics . And by none other than fellow democrats! You know, they're very big into fresh faces in politics and yes, different kinda politics.

Wow , Sarah Palin has proven that she could not only challenge but overcome establishment politics by challenging and then over throwing the incumbent of his own party!!

Wow! what feat! And all that without hanging on to a dirty big city political machine.

She indeed represents Change We Can Believe In !!!

Pssssst.....Metta.

Voting for a woman - just because she's a woman - I don't think that's what the suffragettes had in mind when they were marching for the right to have a say in government.

That right to vote is too 'hard earned' to throw it away. Whether you're female or male. Single issue voters; ethnic voters; gender voters - it's all 'low brain power' thinking.

Ahhhh the hubris of the cultist...

Those who don't vote your way are:

of low brain power

single issue voters (self-assumed omniscience)

are bigots, racists, clingers to religion and guns

THAT"S RICH

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It's laughable to believe Palin is trying yank Alaska out of the union.

She may never have been in a position to accomplish her secessionist goals, but that doesn't excuse the fact that she and her husband were both members of a political party that never accepted the statehood of Alaska and demands a vote on Independence - secession.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This story definitely has substance and any American should at least be aware of her affiliation with this organization....and find out just where her loyalty stands with the U.S. of A..

It's laughable to believe Palin is trying yank Alaska out of the union. Loyalty? Is this where you start to question her patriotism? Have you now or have you ever been a member of the Alaska Independence Party?

If she was a Democratic candidate, you would be all over it.

You betcha!

She'd be called a ######, a witch and everything in between.

If that woman has had years of experience in government, she'd be called the representative of same old politics . And by none other than fellow democrats! You know, they're very big into fresh faces in politics and yes, different kinda politics.

Wow , Sarah Palin has proven that she could not only challenge but overcome establishment politics by challenging and then over throwing the incumbent of his own party!!

Wow! what feat! And all that without hanging on to a dirty big city political machine.

She indeed represents Change We Can Believe In !!!

Pssssst.....Metta.

Voting for a woman - just because she's a woman - I don't think that's what the suffragettes had in mind when they were marching for the right to have a say in government.

That right to vote is too 'hard earned' to throw it away. Whether you're female or male. Single issue voters; ethnic voters; gender voters - it's all 'low brain power' thinking.

Ahhhh the hubris of the cultist...

Those who don't vote your way are:

of low brain power

single issue voters (self-assumed omniscience)

are bigots, racists, clingers to religion and guns

THAT"S RICH

I don't think that's a terribly accurate (or reasonable) assessment of the above comment.

Though perhaps we can all agree that the right to vote isn't taken as seriously as it perhaps ought to be?

[HAL 9000 96]

This story definitely has substance and any American should at least be aware of her affiliation with this organization....and find out just where her loyalty stands with the U.S. of A..

It's laughable to believe Palin is trying yank Alaska out of the union. Loyalty? Is this where you start to question her patriotism? Have you now or have you ever been a member of the Alaska Independence Party?

If she was a Democratic candidate, you would be all over it.

You betcha!

She'd be called a ######, a witch and everything in between.

If that woman has had years of experience in government, she'd be called the representative of same old politics . And by none other than fellow democrats! You know, they're very big into fresh faces in politics and yes, different kinda politics.

Wow , Sarah Palin has proven that she could not only challenge but overcome establishment politics by challenging and then over throwing the incumbent of his own party!!

Wow! what feat! And all that without hanging on to a dirty big city political machine.

She indeed represents Change We Can Believe In !!!

Pssssst.....Metta.

Voting for a woman - just because she's a woman - I don't think that's what the suffragettes had in mind when they were marching for the right to have a say in government.

That right to vote is too 'hard earned' to throw it away. Whether you're female or male. Single issue voters; ethnic voters; gender voters - it's all 'low brain power' thinking.

Ahhhh the hubris of the cultist...

Those who don't vote your way are:

of low brain power

single issue voters (self-assumed omniscience)

are bigots, racists, clingers to religion and guns

THAT"S RICH

I don't think that's a terribly accurate (or reasonable) assessment of the above comment.

Though perhaps we can all agree that the right to vote isn't taken as seriously as it perhaps ought to be?

Taken in stride, dear 6...

The jury is still out on how one can cross party lines for reasons other than candidate-supported issues... and that is what this reeks of. Unless, of course, the support comes from someone originally devout to the issues supported by the candidate to be voted for in the first place. Spite or no spite.

It really isn't that big of a gray area on this one.

[GaryC 7]

I see troll is on a one man smear mission. Does this mean that Obama's association with a preacher that says "God Damn America and the US of KKK" and starting his political career at a terrorists house that said on 9/11 that he didn't do enough is also fair game now?

How about the boards that Obama sat on with Ayers? Does that make Obama sympathetic with everything that organization does and says?

[HAL 9000 96]

It was only time we were to be reminded of a second to third party guilt by association trip while looking at a first party singularity.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I see troll is on a one man smear mission. Does this mean that Obama's association with a preacher that says "God Damn America and the US of KKK" and starting his political career at a terrorists house that said on 9/11 that he didn't do enough is also fair game now?

How about the boards that Obama sat on with Ayers? Does that make Obama sympathetic with everything that organization does and says?

It might be more damaging if Obama was a member of an extremist political party like the Black Panthers.

Membership of political parties (especially those on the fringe) might be seen to tie more directly to a person's beliefs and ideology than vague associations to controversial individuals.

[GaryC 7]

I see troll is on a one man smear mission. Does this mean that Obama's association with a preacher that says "God Damn America and the US of KKK" and starting his political career at a terrorists house that said on 9/11 that he didn't do enough is also fair game now?

How about the boards that Obama sat on with Ayers? Does that make Obama sympathetic with everything that organization does and says?

It might be more damaging if Obama was a member of an extremist political party like the Black Panthers.

Membership of political parties (especially those on the fringe) might be seen to tie more directly to a person's beliefs and ideology than vague associations to controversial individuals.

You call a 20 year membership in a church a vague association? You say that kicking off your political career in a terrorists house a vague association? Interesting.

[HAL 9000 96]

I see troll is on a one man smear mission. Does this mean that Obama's association with a preacher that says "God Damn America and the US of KKK" and starting his political career at a terrorists house that said on 9/11 that he didn't do enough is also fair game now?

How about the boards that Obama sat on with Ayers? Does that make Obama sympathetic with everything that organization does and says?

It might be more damaging if Obama was a member of an extremist political party like the Black Panthers.

Membership of political parties (especially those on the fringe) might be seen to tie more directly to a person's beliefs and ideology than vague associations to controversial individuals.

You call a 20 year membership in a church a vague association? You say that kicking off your political career in a terrorists house a vague association? Interesting.

Maybe you could clarify for us here... is that church as an organization promoting secession from the USA?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I see troll is on a one man smear mission. Does this mean that Obama's association with a preacher that says "God Damn America and the US of KKK" and starting his political career at a terrorists house that said on 9/11 that he didn't do enough is also fair game now?

How about the boards that Obama sat on with Ayers? Does that make Obama sympathetic with everything that organization does and says?

It might be more damaging if Obama was a member of an extremist political party like the Black Panthers.

Membership of political parties (especially those on the fringe) might be seen to tie more directly to a person's beliefs and ideology than vague associations to controversial individuals.

You call a 20 year membership in a church a vague association? You say that kicking off your political career in a terrorists house a vague association? Interesting.

What's interesting about it? Those affiliations need to be vetted like everything else - but the connections are rather more nebulous than membership in a political party with a specific agenda. Membership in a party usually implies support of the party's ideas.

BTW - The Trinity United Church of Christ is one of the biggest churches in Chicago and a chapter of one of the biggest churches in the country. A shrewd guess perhaps but I don't think everyone who attends service there is some sort of mad extremist...

Edited September 2, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[GaryC 7]

I see troll is on a one man smear mission. Does this mean that Obama's association with a preacher that says "God Damn America and the US of KKK" and starting his political career at a terrorists house that said on 9/11 that he didn't do enough is also fair game now?

How about the boards that Obama sat on with Ayers? Does that make Obama sympathetic with everything that organization does and says?

It might be more damaging if Obama was a member of an extremist political party like the Black Panthers.

Membership of political parties (especially those on the fringe) might be seen to tie more directly to a person's beliefs and ideology than vague associations to controversial individuals.

You call a 20 year membership in a church a vague association? You say that kicking off your political career in a terrorists house a vague association? Interesting.

Maybe you could clarify for us here... is that church as an organization promoting secession from the USA?

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

The jury is still out on how one can cross party lines for reasons other than candidate-supported issues... and that is what this reeks of. Unless, of course, the support comes from someone originally devout to the issues supported by the candidate to be voted for in the first place. Spite or no spite.

People cross party lines all the time, Mavi, it's how Ronald Reagan won the 84 election in a 49 state landslide and how Bush Sr. took 40 states. These Reagan Democrats are not single issue voters necessarily and are socially conservative. Palin is probably an appealing choice for many of them.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The jury is still out on how one can cross party lines for reasons other than candidate-supported issues... and that is what this reeks of. Unless, of course, the support comes from someone originally devout to the issues supported by the candidate to be voted for in the first place. Spite or no spite.

People cross party lines all the time, Mavi, it's how Ronald Reagan won the 84 election in a 49 state landslide and how Bush Sr. took 40 states. These Reagan Democrats are not single issue voters necessarily and are socially conservative. Palin is probably an appealing choice for many of them.

I'm sure she is. The way I read it - the VP picks have been intended to appeal to the perceived deficits of the main ticket candidates.

Obama = no experience. Picks Biden - an established party figure

McCain = perceived as "old school" - picks Palin to prove that he represents change.