New vaccine dilemma, medical was in Jan. 08, but applying for AOS NOW

[JenniferJarin 0]

I have a kind of uncommon situation, I think. Here's the deal:

I am about to apply for AOS for my husband (he came here on a K-1 visa). We have almost everything together. I decided to check out visa journey for some extra guidelines (hadn't been on in awhile) & discovered there are new vaccine requirements, yet it seems that if your medical was before August 1st, 2008, this won't apply to you.

Well, my husband received all the needed vaccines during his medical in Bangkok (he wasn't required to do so at the time, but we thought it better to go ahead and do them). The doctor at Bumrungrad filled out the DS-3025 (vaccination documentation worksheet), tore it out of the rest of the original medical, and handed it to me to keep for later. (We also have a copy).

I read in the VJ forums that if you have a copy of this worksheet, that you can substitute it in place of the i-693. The reasoning is that these forms were already included in the sealed brown envelope after the medical and eventually forwarded to USCIS. But that brings me to a few questions:

1. I am thinking this original worksheet was NOT included in the brown envelope, as it was ripped out and given to me. I CAN include a copy when I apply to AOS, or even the original (though I might want to hold onto that?) -- what are your suggestions?

BUT

2. Even if I include the original, or copy, I don't think there is not a duplicate document (vaccination worksheet) waiting in a brown envelope, because it was ripped out. Will this cause a problem, that I would mail an unsealed original? And again, should I still just send a copy?

3. Another option is to get the i-693 filled out by a civil surgeon here in America. The civil surgeon could just copy the worksheet I have. But because this would be filled out AFTER Aug. 1st (even though the dates of the vaccines and the worksheet itself was signed in January 2008), will my husband be required to get the NEW required vaccines now, if we are to submit an i-693?

Or would the surgeon have to fill out an older version of the i-693? But then it would be dated after Aug. 1st when the surgeon signed/stamped it.

The medical and old required vaccines were given back in January 2008, as stated. But we delayed sending in the AOS application until now, and now I don't know what to do.

If anyone has advice, I would really appreciate your help.

[purdy_chris 0]

Just send the photocopy of DS-3025 Vaccination Record. If they want the original, they can always ask you to bring it to the interview.

I only send the photocopy of my DS-3025.

Good luck!

[Jeraly 4]

To be honest - I had my medical in April and reading the USCIS website it says (as you say) that we do not need to comply with the new regs because of the date of our medical. I have sent the DS-3025 (copy) and nothing else medical wise - I figure the worst case scenario is that they send an RFE requesting the I-693 and/or the proof of me having had the new vaccines requested - I figured I would take the chance as if they don't request this then we save about $200

Personally, I wouldn't worry too much - but that is my personal opinion - the way I feel is that I am here now and if I send off the minimum I think they will accept and they want more then I will just send it - it is no skin off my nose in terms of delay but we would like to try and save the extra money if we can!!

[stuck_in_manila 0]

hi.

please read:

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

you might get the answers to your questions:)

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

Technically (based on the instructions of I-693), a K-1 whose exam was less than 1 year before applying for AOS needs to submit an I-693 completed by a Civil Surgeon, but parts 2 (medical exam section), parts 3, and 4 are left blank and don't even have to be sent in, just part I, part 2.5 (vaccinations), and part 5 signed by CS.

That's the technical requirement. In reality, many of us have just sent in a COPY of the DS-3025. Many have been approved with just the 3025. My wife and I sent hers on July 23rd and it wasn't rejected and her case was transferred to CSC for expedited processing over a week ago, so I guess it was accepted. I don't want to speak too soon, but I think we're going to be ok.

Our reasoning was similar to others... why waste money on something you may not have to. If you get an RFE, you can then get the form signed by a CS and pay the fee. The delay isn't too bad, maybe a couple of weeks.

Edited August 27, 2008 by kid brooklyn

[Norman and Dijani 0]

I read the link in this thread and I want to make sure I am reading it right. If my now wife had he medical and vaccines before June 1st 2008 then she does not need to do the new I-693? If this is correct then I am just going to send in a copy of her DS-3025. Sound right?

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

I read the link in this thread and I want to make sure I am reading it right. If my now wife had he medical and vaccines before June 1st 2008 then she does not need to do the new I-693? If this is correct then I am just going to send in a copy of her DS-3025. Sound right?

Technically, that means that she doesn't have to use the revised version of the form, she can use the old version. The old version had a separate form (I-693a) for vaccinations. I think that's what they mean, you can just send in a I-693a. It does NOT mean that she can just not send any version at all.

Remember, that is the technical answer. But many people (including my wife and I) have sent in just a copy of the DS-3025. So far so good, no RFE yet.

Good luck

Edited August 27, 2008 by kid brooklyn

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

I would just send in the DS-3025 and hope for the best. If you get an RFE, you deal with it then.

[JenniferJarin 0]

Thanks for your responses. I have another question: My Vaccination Documentation Worksheet does not have a form number DS-3025 written on it. It has NO form number written on it. I am assuming this is the correct form, because it is a 2-page sheet, stapled together, has "Vaccination Documentation Worksheet" on the top, with "For Use with DS-2053" written underneath, and another form, "Appedix C", stapled to the back. I also just noted that the expiration date in the top right-hand corner says 5/31/2007 (It was checked and signed by the doctor on the date of exam, 12/12/2007.)

Is this the correct form to send in for AOS? It's the only vaccination document I have for my husband, but it does not say DS-3025/ ?????

Though none of the vaccines on the first page are checked "completed series", he actually went back for second doses on 1/15/07, and this is checked and noted on he second page.

Again, thanks for your help in advance -- it is much appreciated.

[richo 0]

Thanks for your responses. I have another question: My Vaccination Documentation Worksheet does not have a form number DS-3025 written on it. It has NO form number written on it. I am assuming this is the correct form, because it is a 2-page sheet, stapled together, has "Vaccination Documentation Worksheet" on the top, with "For Use with DS-2053" written underneath, and another form, "Appedix C", stapled to the back. I also just noted that the expiration date in the top right-hand corner says 5/31/2007 (It was checked and signed by the doctor on the date of exam, 12/12/2007.)

Is this the correct form to send in for AOS? It's the only vaccination document I have for my husband, but it does not say DS-3025/ ?????

Though none of the vaccines on the first page are checked "completed series", he actually went back for second doses on 1/15/07, and this is checked and noted on he second page.

Again, thanks for your help in advance -- it is much appreciated.

I think that's it! As long as there is "Vaccination Documentation Worksheet" then thats it

[Shannon and David 0]

Hi. Please be aware that some people are receiving RFEs for not including the I-693. Here is a copy of the instructions and decide for yourself. Technically one is supposed to send in the I-693.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-693instr.pdf

[Eric-Pris 1,606]

Some people have sent only the DS-3025 and have been approved, others have gotten RFE's. Your choice. It depends on whether you can handle a delay of a couple of weeks if you get an RFE. Do you really need EAD or GC as soon as humanly possible or can you wait an extra 3 weeks?

My wife and I only included a copy of the 3025. This is the way we look at it. The CS's in our area all wanted $200+ to do a full medical again which she didn't need. (I later found one for $125.. ). And I know Dr. Arnold in Texas does it for cheap too, but we figured what the hell. If an RFE comes, we'll deal with it. We may get approved without the 693 and save a couple of bucks.

I don't know if this makes a difference, but in my wife's country, they require applicants to complete all vaccines as part of the k-1 visa process, so she has completed them all. I included a note stating this fact. So far, so good. No RFE's and we've been transferred to CSC. We'll see what happens.