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one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

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one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Then you tell me what you disagree with or don't like - as I keep telling my boss, I don't have ESP on my resume.

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Well, that deserves it's own thread

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Well, that deserves it's own thread

Your ears were burning?

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I think Troll is like Beetlejuice - he appears if you say his name 3 times or something

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one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Then you tell me what you disagree with or don't like - as I keep telling my boss, I don't have ESP on my resume.

You don't need to have ESP. What you should try to get is away from the whole Messianic diatribe some people seem to want to label out of spite.

FYI- I don't agree with Obama on Immigration. He should take a proactive approach so as to not focus the immigration debate at home but rather why we are such a shining beacon whereas certain places are not- and how we continue to benefit from such places anyway.

I believe Obama should implement a Health Care system along the lines of what Clinton proposed... and make it more than just affordable. So in a way I am also in disagreement with his Health Care plans.

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one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Then you tell me what you disagree with or don't like - as I keep telling my boss, I don't have ESP on my resume.

You don't need to have ESP. What you should try to get is away from the whole Messianic diatribe some people seem to want to label out of spite.

FYI- I don't agree with Obama on Immigration. He should take a proactive approach so as to not focus the immigration debate at home but rather why we are such a shining beacon whereas certain places are not- and how we continue to benefit from such places anyway.

I believe Obama should implement a Health Care system along the lines of what Clinton proposed... and make it more than just affordable. So in a way I am also in disagreement with his Health Care plans.

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Where?

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You don't need to have ESP. What you should try to get is away from the whole Messianic diatribe some people seem to want to label out of spite.

Should I try and do that? Because I don't. But the general resistance to criticism is kind of worrying, IMO.

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one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Yep. I have said positive things about all the candidates, including McCain, during the Primaries until now. For all the years I've followed politics and have been a registered voter (since 1984), Barack Obama stands out on top over (Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Gore, and Kerry) the previous Democratic nominees. Some people, for whatever reason, can't understand or realize that. He's the best candidate we've had since JFK. I suppose if it were JFK as the nominee right now, similar criticism would be thrown at him - messiah, savior, inexperienced...etc. It's just too bad that even some Democrats find it hard to accept that he's the best candidate we've had in a long time. For so long people went to vote, not so much because they really liked the candidate, but because that candidate was the least worst. This election, I don't see that...except for those who disagree with Obama's political ideology.

I realize there's a little cynicism disguised as pragmatism that gets expressed here, but for me, this truly is a remarkable time to see a candidate that has the potential to be one of our better Presidents.

Edited August 26, 2008 by Jabberwocky

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You don't need to have ESP. What you should try to get is away from the whole Messianic diatribe some people seem to want to label out of spite.

Should I try and do that? Because I don't. But the general resistance to criticism is kind of worrying, IMO.

Sorry Robin- I wasn't referring to you as being particularly amicable to that silliness as many others seem to play. Where I was going was in that it could be best noted that I have never posted in a way that would somehow justify the frivolous claims that some would lop Obama's popularity here and it would be best to steer clear of such illogical thinking.

I do agree though that people that have a hard time accepting constructive criticism do have issues- much in the same way that it is pretty lame to establish or imply hatred of one candidate that has a nearly identical political platform as the candidate that lost the nomination.

one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Yep. I have said positive things about all the candidates, including McCain, during the Primaries until now. For all the years I've followed politics and have been a registered voter (since 1984), Barack Obama stands out on top over (Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Gore, and Kerry) the previous Democratic nominees. Some people, for whatever reason, can't understand or realize that. He's the best candidate we've had since JFK. I suppose if it were JFK as the nominee right now, similar criticism would be thrown at him - messiah, savior, inexperienced...etc. It's just too bad that even some Democrats find it hard to accept that he's the best candidate we've had in a long time. For so long people went to vote, not so much because they really liked the candidate, but because that candidate was the least worst. This election, I don't see that...except for those who disagree with Obama's political ideology.

I realize there's a little cynicism disguised as pragmatism that gets expressed here, but for me, this truly is a remarkable time to see a candidate that has the potential to be one of our better Presidents.

But lets get into the game Steven. Is there anything about Obama's politics that you disagree with?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You don't need to have ESP. What you should try to get is away from the whole Messianic diatribe some people seem to want to label out of spite.

Should I try and do that? Because I don't. But the general resistance to criticism is kind of worrying, IMO.

Sorry Robin- I wasn't referring to you as being particularly amicable to that silliness as many others seem to play. Where I was going was in that it could be best noted that I have never posted in a way that would somehow justify the frivolous claims that some would lop Obama's popularity here and it would be best to steer clear of such illogical thinking.

I do agree though that people that have a hard time accepting constructive criticism do have issues- much in the same way that it is pretty lame to establish or imply hatred of one candidate that has a nearly identical political platform as the candidate that lost the nomination.

one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Yep. I have said positive things about all the candidates, including McCain, during the Primaries until now. For all the years I've followed politics and have been a registered voter (since 1984), Barack Obama stands out on top over (Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Gore, and Kerry) the previous Democratic nominees. Some people, for whatever reason, can't understand or realize that. He's the best candidate we've had since JFK. I suppose if it were JFK as the nominee right now, similar criticism would be thrown at him - messiah, savior, inexperienced...etc. It's just too bad that even some Democrats find it hard to accept that he's the best candidate we've had in a long time. For so long people went to vote, not so much because they really liked the candidate, but because that candidate was the least worst. This election, I don't see that...except for those who disagree with Obama's political ideology.

I realize there's a little cynicism disguised as pragmatism that gets expressed here, but for me, this truly is a remarkable time to see a candidate that has the potential to be one of our better Presidents.

But lets get into the game Steven. Is there anything about Obama's politics that you disagree with?

Funny you should ask. On where he stands on issues - I too don't agree with his health care proposal. ...and he wears too many earth tones. Needs to spice it up a little. Perhaps a hot pink tie?

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You don't need to have ESP. What you should try to get is away from the whole Messianic diatribe some people seem to want to label out of spite.

Should I try and do that? Because I don't. But the general resistance to criticism is kind of worrying, IMO.

Sorry Robin- I wasn't referring to you as being particularly amicable to that silliness as many others seem to play. Where I was going was in that it could be best noted that I have never posted in a way that would somehow justify the frivolous claims that some would lop Obama's popularity here and it would be best to steer clear of such illogical thinking.

I do agree though that people that have a hard time accepting constructive criticism do have issues- much in the same way that it is pretty lame to establish or imply hatred of one candidate that has a nearly identical political platform as the candidate that lost the nomination.

one of these days I'm going to get Steve, Troll, and Mavi to be critical of Obama.

I might get Troll to do it, not so sure about the others.

i'm not going to hold my breath for that to ever happen.

No, don't do that charles - you might pass out from oxygen deprivation. Think about the baby!

Like I said... give us issues to disagree with the candidate over. You could be in for a surprise, if you so choose to find out.

Yep. I have said positive things about all the candidates, including McCain, during the Primaries until now. For all the years I've followed politics and have been a registered voter (since 1984), Barack Obama stands out on top over (Dukakis, Bill Clinton, Gore, and Kerry) the previous Democratic nominees. Some people, for whatever reason, can't understand or realize that. He's the best candidate we've had since JFK. I suppose if it were JFK as the nominee right now, similar criticism would be thrown at him - messiah, savior, inexperienced...etc. It's just too bad that even some Democrats find it hard to accept that he's the best candidate we've had in a long time. For so long people went to vote, not so much because they really liked the candidate, but because that candidate was the least worst. This election, I don't see that...except for those who disagree with Obama's political ideology.

I realize there's a little cynicism disguised as pragmatism that gets expressed here, but for me, this truly is a remarkable time to see a candidate that has the potential to be one of our better Presidents.

But lets get into the game Steven. Is there anything about Obama's politics that you disagree with?

I'd like to back it up to the OP & ask what Steven thinks of Biden crying, in light of what he said about Hills crying?

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I'd like to back it up to the OP & ask what Steven thinks of Biden crying, in light of what he said about Hills crying?

What does Biden crying have anything to do with Hillary's? Also, what did I say about Hillary that troubles you?

I agree with Alex. I just saw the clip. I don't think Hillary was being weak, but I'm not sure it was a good thing for her to open up like that emotionally...at least not while holding a mic.