Bringing your new spouse, kids over with nothing in the bank

[martinbr 1]

I am just wondering if anyone other than myself is trying to get there spouses and kids to the U.S. without any money in there bank account. I live from paycheck to paycheck trying to get by here in this messed up economy. And to be truthful, I really don't know if it's a really good idea to bring them over here without any backup.

I am in such a financial mess right now with a ex-wife and the IRS, that it scares the hell out of me if I couldn't be able to take care of them. I qualify with my job for support but I will be losing my job next year due to outsourcing. I will be getting a buyout from the company in which I was going to use to get them over here, but I am having a hard enough time of taking care of myself let alone two other people. They might be better off staying where they are until I get it together. It would break her heart though since I know she is really counting on me getting her over here.

Has anyone else been through this situation and has made it work? I am just curious. I was almost thinking about just forgetting about getting them over here right now until things change for me financially. It looks like most people that just make the poverty guidelines have family to fall back on if something goes wrong. I have known whatsoever that I could depend on if things got really bad. I hate to sound so negative about this but I am just trying to be realistic and not make a huge mistake of getting my loved ones over here and them depending on me to take care of them and I won't be able to. I am have a hard enough time of taking care of myself right now.

I just don't know if I should just keep the process going and hope that things turn around for me or just put it on hold for now and wait a few years if she wants to wait that long for me.

martinbr

[YuAndDan 153]

As long as INCOME exceeds 125% povertyline when counting self, immigrants, and any other dependents, then you DO NOT have to provide any bank data.

One thing about I-134, the directions included with I-134 are very old, USCIS has no reason to update them since USCIS has no application for that form.

The consulates tend to treat the I-134 like a mini-I-864 as so prefer the same financial evidence as the I-864.

In our case this what the I-134 (FOR K-Visa) included.

• I-134 signed and notarized.

• SIMPLE Tax transcripts from the IRS for past 3 years, (Redundant for the (1040,W2,1099) but are free from the IRS http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq1-6.html

• Photo copy of IRS form 1040, and W2s for past 3 years (Not necessary if you provide the transcripts)

• Letter from my employer stating annual salary, job responsibility, and that is full time, on company letterhead.

• Photo copies of past month or so of pay stubs up to a few weeks before the interview.

My income was well above the povertyline so I did not include any asset data (LIKE BANK STATEMENTS or property values).

We did the same for I-864 used for green-card.

Tax transcripts, recent paystubs, employer letter, Again NO Bank statements.

You may want to update profile to show what visa you filed for, as well as country your dealing with.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...rCP&CODE=01 (N/A is not a visa, or country)

Edited August 20, 2008 by YuAndDan

[Removed-2015May22 0]

MAN I FEEL FOR YOU. I MAKE GOOD MONEY AND I FEEL THAT WAY ALL THE TIME. BUT REALLY I FEEL THAT WAY MOST WHEN I HAVE NOT SEEN MY HONEY IN 2 MONTHS OR MORE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU TWO ARE SO GOOD TOGETHER, THEN GET TOGETHER. THINGS SEEM TO WORK OUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK AT IT.

YOU MUST BE WRACKED WITH THESE FEELINGS. MAN, I KNOW THE FEELING. I AM NOW 40 AND FOR ME, THIS IS MY LAST ATTEMPT AT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNER. I HAVE MY LATER YEARS TO THINK ABOUT. SO I DECIDED TO GIVE THIS ONE GIRL AND OUR RELATIONSHIP EVERYTHING I HAVE AND IF IT IS GOOD THEN GREAT, IF NOT - I CAN BE VERY COMFORTABLE BY MYSELF.

SO CHOOSE AND STICK TO IT. BUT IF YOU HAVE A KID INVOLVED, THEN YOU MUST THINK ABOUT THAT TOO. I HAVE NOT READ YOUR PROFILE , BUT I AM THINKING OF GRADUALLY ADJUSTING TO LIVE MORE MONTHS EVERY YEAR IN PERU. IT IS LESS EXPENSIVE, AND IF YOU CAN MAKE A FEW DOLLARS HERE AND GO THERE AND DEVELOP A LIFE, THEN I WANT THAT. IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH WHAT IS IN YOUR HEAD MAN.

EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS SOMEONES IDEA. THE PYRIMIDS WERE SOMEONES IDEA, THE ROMAN EMPIRE, THE AMERICAN EMPIRE, ALL SOMEONES IDEA (OR MANY PEOPLES IDEA AND THEY ARE IN POWER) WHAT IS YOUR IDEA?

EMAIL ME ANY TIME AT KUECHG@AOL.COM I HOPE THINGS GO YOUR WAY, AND THEY WILL IF YOU HAVE "A WAY"

[*JG* 2]

I haven't felt comfortable with the economics of my life in about 6 years. You figure it out along the way.

[Peggy 1]

I think your being very responable.

Moving her and the child to the USA can be hard enough with out having the burden of being broke when they arrive.

When I moved to the USA with my son. I can now look back and say we should have stayed longer at home before moving to a place where you can not work for a period of time. This will bring lots of stress on both of you. If people say bring them over anyways, when you know you cant afford them, they are being unrealistic.

Good luck with what you decide.

[Mononoke28 135]

You just need to do a list of pros and cons. If you think it's best for them to stay in their country for a while then she should understand and try to go see them more often.

Another option is bringing them over with CR1 and CR2 visas, that way your wife can start working as soon as she gets her green card in the mail which should only take between 2-7 weeks. That way both of you can work and take care of the finances.

Diana

[*JG* 2]

I think your being very responable.

Moving her and the child to the USA can be hard enough with out having the burden of being broke when they arrive.

When I moved to the USA with my son. I can now look back and say we should have stayed longer at home before moving to a place where you can not work for a period of time. This will bring lots of stress on both of you. If people say bring them over anyways, when you know you cant afford them, they are being unrealistic.

Good luck with what you decide.

The process is very expensive. And, yes, they can't work.

But, I kind of look at it like I do when people say "when is a good time to have a baby?" There is never an ideal time.

Saving up and/or getting back on your feet is a great idea. But, if you are waiting for the perfect time, there just isn't one.

[Carlawarla 1]

I am just wondering if anyone other than myself is trying to get there spouses and kids to the U.S. without any money in there bank account. I live from paycheck to paycheck trying to get by here in this messed up economy. And to be truthful, I really don't know if it's a really good idea to bring them over here without any backup.

I am in such a financial mess right now with a ex-wife and the IRS, that it scares the hell out of me if I couldn't be able to take care of them. I qualify with my job for support but I will be losing my job next year due to outsourcing. I will be getting a buyout from the company in which I was going to use to get them over here, but I am having a hard enough time of taking care of myself let alone two other people. They might be better off staying where they are until I get it together. It would break her heart though since I know she is really counting on me getting her over here.

Has anyone else been through this situation and has made it work? I am just curious. I was almost thinking about just forgetting about getting them over here right now until things change for me financially. It looks like most people that just make the poverty guidelines have family to fall back on if something goes wrong. I have known whatsoever that I could depend on if things got really bad. I hate to sound so negative about this but I am just trying to be realistic and not make a huge mistake of getting my loved ones over here and them depending on me to take care of them and I won't be able to. I am have a hard enough time of taking care of myself right now.

I just don't know if I should just keep the process going and hope that things turn around for me or just put it on hold for now and wait a few years if she wants to wait that long for me.

martinbr

I can see from your timeline that your spouse is from the Philipines. You don't mention how old you are, or how many kids are coming over with her. I think you're doing a good job in thinking of their welfare and as Peggy says, being responsible. While you could change the actual visa to a CR-1 so that she could work right away, you'd have to consider how her job prospects look. Is she trained for anything? Is her English good enough to find a job here? Again, depending on how many children you have, daycare might be not affordable, and it may mean she can't work. However, if you can't find a job, and she could, then she could work and you could stay at home with the children.

It's sad to say that 90% of failed marriages in North America are over finances. Just barely getting by financially yourself is different than exposing your new wife and children to the same. Have you talked about this with her? She's your wife and should be part of this decision making process. I'm sure she would be sad and hurt, but if you both can get together a reasonable plan for some financial security for the future and work towards that, then it might not be that long before she can be with you in the USA.

Depending on your circumstances, you may want to look at you moving to the Philippines. I know there have been a few members that have left the USA to live there, and have started up their own business.

Would it be advantageous for you to move to another State to find better reemployment opportunities for yourself before bringing your wife and children over?

Sorry, again, I don't know your circumstances. I do feel for you however, and hope you both can find a way to talk about this before her getting the visa. I think it woud be a shock to her to think one thing if you weren't honest with her about your financial situation, and to find out that you're getting food from the food bank after she arrives.

Edited August 21, 2008 by Carlawarla

[Big Papa Zone 93]

This is the conundrum I'm facing right now. If all goes as planned at the interview, ideally I'd like to leave right away, but I don't wanna be skint when I arrive. Realistically, I'm gonna have to wait till about April '09 to feel comfortable enough with my cashflow to be able to leave.

The waiting while I sort myslef out will absolutely suck major goat genitalia, but in the long run, that's better than rocking up brassic.

Edited August 21, 2008 by Damian P

[martinbr 1]

I am just wondering if anyone other than myself is trying to get there spouses and kids to the U.S. without any money in there bank account. I live from paycheck to paycheck trying to get by here in this messed up economy. And to be truthful, I really don't know if it's a really good idea to bring them over here without any backup.

I am in such a financial mess right now with a ex-wife and the IRS, that it scares the hell out of me if I couldn't be able to take care of them. I qualify with my job for support but I will be losing my job next year due to outsourcing. I will be getting a buyout from the company in which I was going to use to get them over here, but I am having a hard enough time of taking care of myself let alone two other people. They might be better off staying where they are until I get it together. It would break her heart though since I know she is really counting on me getting her over here.

Has anyone else been through this situation and has made it work? I am just curious. I was almost thinking about just forgetting about getting them over here right now until things change for me financially. It looks like most people that just make the poverty guidelines have family to fall back on if something goes wrong. I have known whatsoever that I could depend on if things got really bad. I hate to sound so negative about this but I am just trying to be realistic and not make a huge mistake of getting my loved ones over here and them depending on me to take care of them and I won't be able to. I am have a hard enough time of taking care of myself right now.

I just don't know if I should just keep the process going and hope that things turn around for me or just put it on hold for now and wait a few years if she wants to wait that long for me.

martinbr

I can see from your timeline that your spouse is from the Philipines. You don't mention how old you are, or how many kids are coming over with her. I think you're doing a good job in thinking of their welfare and as Peggy says, being responsible. While you could change the actual visa to a CR-1 so that she could work right away, you'd have to consider how her job prospects look. Is she trained for anything? Is her English good enough to find a job here? Again, depending on how many children you have, daycare might be not affordable, and it may mean she can't work. However, if you can't find a job, and she could, then she could work and you could stay at home with the children.

It's sad to say that 90% of failed marriages in North America are over finances. Just barely getting by financially yourself is different than exposing your new wife and children to the same. Have you talked about this with her? She's your wife and should be part of this decision making process. I'm sure she would be sad and hurt, but if you both can get together a reasonable plan for some financial security for the future and work towards that, then it might not be that long before she can be with you in the USA.

Depending on your circumstances, you may want to look at you moving to the Philippines. I know there have been a few members that have left the USA to live there, and have started up their own business.

Would it be advantageous for you to move to another State to find better reemployment opportunities for yourself before bringing your wife and children over?

Sorry, again, I don't know your circumstances. I do feel for you however, and hope you both can find a way to talk about this before her getting the visa. I think it woud be a shock to her to think one thing if you weren't honest with her about your financial situation, and to find out that you're getting food from the food bank after she arrives.

My personal feeling would that it would be a major disaster to bring her here. I just don't have it together to support her. This was was the major cause of my first divorce was over finances. When you have have a spouse that has no job skills it makes it very, very hard. I was in the Roofing industry for the past 30 years but have been run out of the business by fierce competition from other company's. I can't make a living at it anymore. So I myself don't even have any skills. I have to go back to school.

Moving over there might be optional after I retire, but that isn't for six years from now. I don't know it she wants' to wait that long. I guess I could take trips over there from time to time but I don't think it's very fair to her.

A lot of of it will depend on what kind of buyout I get next year from a job that is coming to a end due to outsourcing. Most likely I will take a trip over there and get to see her and we can talk about our future.

Thanks!,

martinbr

Edited August 22, 2008 by martinbr

[Nikita2Charles 32]

It's a very difficult situation like others have mentioned look at the pro and cons of both side. You are at best to make the decision you deem right.

When your wife comes with her kids, that's 2 additional expenses you have to look at, you think your situation is difficult that will make it even more difficult depending on other factors

Lot of nurses coming from the philipines. some occupation are easier than others to get hired in tough economic time.

Outcoucing is the killer of this economy but for big corporation they only see the short term bottom line, I feel when the time comes, the CEO or the board of director's Job would be outsourced then they would think about it twice.

As long as it doesn't affect them, their children all the folks out here doing all the hard work for the company to be successful is just expandable. I feel your plight just go with your gut instinct and Leave the rest in God's hand, let it be God's will.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

My personal feeling would that it would be a major disaster to bring her here. I just don't have it together to support her. This was was the major cause of my first divorce was over finances. When you have have a spouse that has no job skills it makes it very, very hard. I was in the Roofing industry for the past 30 years but have been run out of the business by fierce competition from other company's. I can't make a living at it anymore. So I myself don't even have any skills. I have to go back to school.

Moving over there might be optional after I retire, but that isn't for six years from now. I don't know it she wants' to wait that long. I guess I could take trips over there from time to time but I don't think it's very fair to her.

A lot of of it will depend on what kind of buyout I get next year from a job that is coming to a end due to outsourcing. Most likely I will take a trip over there and get to see her and we can talk about our future.

Thanks!,

martinbr

If you feel like it would a disaster, then you obviously have some serious doubts that need to be reconciled. Be sure of what you want to do. I may be wrong as this is the internet, but I am sensing doubt about this relationship. Be sure of what you are doing before it disrupts all of your lives.