Poll: Obama drops 12 points, McCain now leads but within MoE

[metta 0]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Oh, Steve, who sounds bitter now?

I am well over this Hillary vs Obama issue and have infact ceased spending much time over it. I have made my decision based on my own world view, life experience etc.

I gave due diligence to making my decision and am happy with it. You should be happy with yours.

Why fret over other peoples' decisions of which you have no control over.

You just do your level best and the rest, you'll just have to accept what ever the majority goes for until the next cycle of elections come around. I will then vote again for whoever I think is best for the country and keep on trying again and again. That's all one can do in a democracy.

Edited August 20, 2008 by metta

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Oh, Steve, who sounds bitter now?

I am well over this Hillary vs Obama issue and have infact ceased spending much time over it. I have made my decision based on my own world view, life experience etc.

I gave due diligence to making my decision and am happy with it. You should be happy with yours.

Why fret over other peoples' decisions of which you have no control over.

You just do your level best and the rest, you'll just have to accept what ever the majority goes for until the next cycle of elections come around. I will then vote again for whoever I think is best for the country and keep on trying again and again. That's all one can do in a democracy.

Because supporting McCain now when you were supporting Hillary in Primaries doesn't make logical sense. Hillary's political ideology as well as her campaign promises are much more in line with Obama than McCain. The only twisted logic you might be having is that by voting for McCain, you're hoping that in 4 years, Hillary can run again...but that's a long shot...and you're willing to squander our country's future under 4 more years of Bush-like policies. That's taken one for the country.

[HAL 9000 96]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Name calling is *SO* unattractive, Steven.

You have said your candidate is ABOVE all filth & name calling, etc yet you are flinging from the trenches? He would be ashamed.

Woa... okayyy...

Pretty much. Lets see in the heat of the moment who makes more negative publicity... McCain (as he is doing now) and/or Obama (as he mainly hasn't). That is what is relevant as to being filthy and name-calling.

[HAL 9000 96]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Oh, Steve, who sounds bitter now?

I am well over this Hillary vs Obama issue and have infact ceased spending much time over it. I have made my decision based on my own world view, life experience etc.

I gave due diligence to making my decision and am happy with it. You should be happy with yours.

Why fret over other peoples' decisions of which you have no control over.

You just do your level best and the rest, you'll just have to accept what ever the majority goes for until the next cycle of elections come around. I will then vote again for whoever I think is best for the country and keep on trying again and again. That's all one can do in a democracy.

Why was it again that you chose one particular candidate over the other for the general election? Name him again for our benefit. Just want to know outright. Thanks.

[no name 1]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Oh, Steve, who sounds bitter now?

I am well over this Hillary vs Obama issue and have infact ceased spending much time over it. I have made my decision based on my own world view, life experience etc.

I gave due diligence to making my decision and am happy with it. You should be happy with yours.

Why fret over other peoples' decisions of which you have no control over.

You just do your level best and the rest, you'll just have to accept what ever the majority goes for until the next cycle of elections come around. I will then vote again for whoever I think is best for the country and keep on trying again and again. That's all one can do in a democracy.

Why was it again that you chose one particular candidate over the other for the general election? Name him again for our benefit. Just want to know outright. Thanks.

Educate yourself...

[no name 1]

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Name calling is *SO* unattractive, Steven.

You have said your candidate is ABOVE all filth & name calling, etc yet you are flinging from the trenches? He would be ashamed.

What I said is logical and to the point. If you're a Democrat, the choice is clear. At least be honest and own up to idea that supporting McCain over Obama for Democrats who supported Hillary is pure bitterness.

I suggest those blinders come off, Steven. While you're at it, step down off that pedestal. I am a registered Dem, but I am free to choose whomever I want on election day. Just like a registered Independent or Rep. I do not have to toe the line in every single election.

Edited August 20, 2008 by illumine

[HAL 9000 96]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Oh, Steve, who sounds bitter now?

I am well over this Hillary vs Obama issue and have infact ceased spending much time over it. I have made my decision based on my own world view, life experience etc.

I gave due diligence to making my decision and am happy with it. You should be happy with yours.

Why fret over other peoples' decisions of which you have no control over.

You just do your level best and the rest, you'll just have to accept what ever the majority goes for until the next cycle of elections come around. I will then vote again for whoever I think is best for the country and keep on trying again and again. That's all one can do in a democracy.

Why was it again that you chose one particular candidate over the other for the general election? Name him again for our benefit. Just want to know outright. Thanks.

Educate yourself...

Thanks... shhh...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Name calling is *SO* unattractive, Steven.

You have said your candidate is ABOVE all filth & name calling, etc yet you are flinging from the trenches? He would be ashamed.

What I said is logical and to the point. If you're a Democrat, the choice is clear. At least be honest and own up to idea that supporting McCain over Obama for Democrats who supported Hillary is pure bitterness.

I suggest those blinders come off, Steven. While you're at it, step down off that pedestal. I am a registered Dem, but I am free to choose whomever I want on election day. Just like a registered Independent or Rep. I do not have to toe the line in every single election.

Voter's choice is a given....you're avoiding answering the real question - which is what is it exactly about Obama that would cause any registered Democrat, particularly one who supported and continues to support Hillary...especially when she has endorsed him herself? In other words, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Edited August 20, 2008 by Jabberwocky

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I wonder if McCain could shift his ads to more positive ones instead of pandering to the lie-to-viewers tendency of negative campaigning.

Why would he? Negative ads work.

Remember, the GOP destroyed Kerry with negative ads in August, they destroyed Gore in August too. Neither of them fought back with the ferocity required.

Yeah why tell the truth... such a nasty concept.

Destruction is the name of their game I guess.

The name of the game is winning.

If you don't win, no one cares how you played the game.

Fact of life.

...if that's the case, then Obama better choose Hillary for VP. The Clintons know how to play that game.

Oh, no. I only hope the One doesn't pick Hillary as veep. And if he offers, that she declines.

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Oh, Steve, who sounds bitter now?

I am well over this Hillary vs Obama issue and have infact ceased spending much time over it. I have made my decision based on my own world view, life experience etc.

I gave due diligence to making my decision and am happy with it. You should be happy with yours.

Why fret over other peoples' decisions of which you have no control over.

You just do your level best and the rest, you'll just have to accept what ever the majority goes for until the next cycle of elections come around. I will then vote again for whoever I think is best for the country and keep on trying again and again. That's all one can do in a democracy.

Why was it again that you chose one particular candidate over the other for the general election? Name him again for our benefit. Just want to know outright. Thanks.

Educate yourself...

Ah the "Secret Ballot" again.

Because you really are likely to be coerced to vote a certain way by what someone says on an internet forum

What a joke.

[no name 1]

Oye...you still aren't over her losing in the Primaries, are you? The choice is pretty clear between McCain and Obama for any rationally minded Democrat. To even suggest that McCain would better represent your views is pure bitterness.

Name calling is *SO* unattractive, Steven.

You have said your candidate is ABOVE all filth & name calling, etc yet you are flinging from the trenches? He would be ashamed.

What I said is logical and to the point. If you're a Democrat, the choice is clear. At least be honest and own up to idea that supporting McCain over Obama for Democrats who supported Hillary is pure bitterness.

I suggest those blinders come off, Steven. While you're at it, step down off that pedestal. I am a registered Dem, but I am free to choose whomever I want on election day. Just like a registered Independent or Rep. I do not have to toe the line in every single election.

Voter's choice is a given....you're avoiding answering the real question - which is what is it exactly about Obama that would cause any registered Democrat, particularly one who supported and continues to support Hillary...especially when she has endorsed him herself? In other words, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

I am not discussing my choice with you, nor asking you to discuss yours, and neither is metta.

Do you do everything your candidate tells you to do? You've certainly said as much. I'm pretty sure that's called a cult.... Or blind allegiance. I like to make my own choices, based on life experience, like metta said. You are free to make your own as well. You are also free to judge, but I'm guessing you already know that based on your continued attacks on anyone not praising Obama.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I am not discussing my choice with you, nor asking you to discuss yours, and neither is metta.

Do you do everything your candidate tells you to do? You've certainly said as much. I'm pretty sure that's called a cult.... Or blind allegiance. I like to make my own choices, based on life experience, like metta said. You are free to make your own as well. You are also free to judge, but I'm guessing you already know that based on your continued attacks on anyone not praising Obama.

Good grief...we're discussing which candidate best represent the Democratic Party's platform and Obama is that candidate. Are you denying that he is?

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Steven, dude.... let it go

[no name 1]

Steven, dude.... let it go

[no name 1]

I am not discussing my choice with you, nor asking you to discuss yours, and neither is metta.

Do you do everything your candidate tells you to do? You've certainly said as much. I'm pretty sure that's called a cult.... Or blind allegiance. I like to make my own choices, based on life experience, like metta said. You are free to make your own as well. You are also free to judge, but I'm guessing you already know that based on your continued attacks on anyone not praising Obama.

Good grief...we're discussing which candidate best represent the Democratic Party's platform and Obama is that candidate. Are you denying that he is?

No, were discussing freedom of choice, not the Dem party nominee. You tried (as usual) to turn it into something different.

Voter's choice is a given.......you're avoiding answering the real question - which is what is it exactly about Obama that would cause any registered Democrat, particularly one who supported and continues to support Hillary...especially when she has endorsed him herself?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Steven, dude.... let it go

No offense but you're not my parent.